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Posted: 12/11/2013 4:38:32 PM EDT
A guy is trying to trade a Leader T2 Mk5 (V?)......to my uncle.
I don't know anything about them, here's what he claimed. 2000 were imported, Austrailian service rifles before the AUG, this one's #1911. From the pic, it looks like it might take AR mags. I can't figure out how to get the pic to my computer, it's in a text. (I'll go see if I can grab a pic from google or somewhere) Looks like this one, with a 30rnd mag, and some kind of scope |
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Posted: 12/11/2013 5:07:56 PM EDT
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IIRC never a service rifle, they were in the running and lost.
Don't know the value, a quick google search show's prices all over the map. From autions that closed at $1500 awhile ago, to failed auctions trying to get $2500. Master piece arms is producing a new version domestically with a few alterations, and the MSRP is $959... |
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Posted: 12/11/2013 5:49:39 PM EDT
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Thanks for the info Madcap
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Posted: 12/11/2013 5:59:57 PM EDT
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While they are rare, I don't think they are that collectable, so I'd tell him to be cautious on the price.
Unless it's dirt cheap, then snag it up! |
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Posted: 12/11/2013 6:07:59 PM EDT
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Right. I don't think the deal is all that great, after a little more info from my uncle. (dude wants to trade a Buell Blast, and that rifle for a BMW my uncle has been fixing up)
Plus he's not really the collector type. He's more the get something, beat on it for a while, and get rid of it type. (that rifle might not be a good one to need a part for) He had ARs when we were younger (he's only 11yrs older than me), I told him to get another AR, because he wants another cool rifle. Something you wouldn't have to be so careful with. |
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Posted: 12/11/2013 6:58:02 PM EDT
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ehhh yea, sounds like a "pass" to me. A lot of variables in all that.
Sounds like he could grab a walmart Colt 6920 for a grand and be better off. |
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Posted: 12/11/2013 8:43:19 PM EDT
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has a cool triangular bolt but not a real popular platform. i think parts are known to fail as you see a lot of them needing parts or selling as parts guns.
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Posted: 12/11/2013 9:53:56 PM EDT
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Didn' the fal beat this in there selection process through testing? Still would be neat to have one in a collection. Not somthing to buy and use as parts are scarce for sure!
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Posted: 12/11/2013 10:10:46 PM EDT
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It is a pretty crude/simple design that was in the running against the AUG for the service rifle in Australia and lost out. I t uses AR-15 magazines and yes about 2,000 were imported. Real world fair market value is maybe $1200-$1300, and it is purely a collectors piece, I would not use one as a "serious" rifle.
I have owned one and it is very similar to an AR-180 internally, save for using a triangular bolt head. Ejection is pretty weak. Did I mention it looks quite crude in its construction? 
I would pass on trading for a fixed up BMW.... |
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Posted: 12/11/2013 10:51:02 PM EDT
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Owe this was long after what I was thinking. thanks for the info
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Posted: 12/12/2013 3:41:31 AM EDT
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Did I mention it looks quite crude in its construction?
To be fair, an FNC looks very crude as well but it's a $3000-8000 gun. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 6:13:55 AM EDT
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Thanks for the info guys, even if he doesn't get it, it's still nice to file all this away in my brain.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 9:51:42 AM EDT
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The inventor of the rifle, Charles St George, worked at Barrett for some time when I was there. Hell of a nice guy. He has a new gun gun company now. He may have parts. Forget what his new venture is called.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 11:22:16 AM EDT
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Not collectable or interesting at all.
Send it to me for proper disposal. 
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Posted: 12/12/2013 11:25:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not collectable or interesting at all. Send it to me for proper disposal reverse engineering. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 11:32:53 AM EDT
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Not collectable or interesting at all. Send it to me for proper disposal reverse engineering.
Guilty as charged.  I have a few ideas on how to make it better. 
I was honestly thinking about doing a NoDak Spud version until I saw the MPAR 556. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 11:49:05 AM EDT
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It'll be interesting to see how the MPAR sells, and see what kind of market there is.
I still think a Ultimax-100 clone would be the baddest ass thing on the planet. While the receivers are different, the MPAR being 180 style and split, and the -100 being one piece like a SAW they look somewhat similar. I'd love to find a way to turn an MPAR into an ultamax-ish. Wish someone would make a semi ultimax clone still |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 12:06:46 PM EDT
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Not collectable or interesting at all. Send it to me for proper disposal. We aren't too far away from you, I might be able to get you hooked up with the guy if you want. Doesn't look like the trade is gonna happen. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 12:42:23 PM EDT
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We aren't too far away from you, I might be able to get you hooked up with the guy if you want. Doesn't look like the trade is gonna happen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not collectable or interesting at all. Send it to me for proper disposal. We aren't too far away from you, I might be able to get you hooked up with the guy if you want. Doesn't look like the trade is gonna happen. Thanks, but I already have one. 
And we are already up to our earballs  in work/projects. 
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Posted: 12/12/2013 3:45:46 PM EDT
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Don't buy orphans unless you're a collector.
(For what it's worth, this is the only reason why I don't own a Daewoo K2) |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 5:45:50 PM EDT
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Generally my practical side agrees with you. I go through phases of thinking that every gun I own has to be part of an interconnected master plan for TEOTWAWKI.
But then I give in to a whim. Sometimes there is something so sweet about owning and shooting a rare and/or oddball gun. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 6:18:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Generally my practical side agrees with you. I go through phases of thinking that every gun I own has to be part of an interconnected master plan for TEOTWAWKI. But then I give in to a whim. Sometimes there is something so sweet about owning and shooting a rare and/or oddball gun. Nothing like people just stopping and looking "what is that". |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 11:21:19 PM EDT
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Generally my practical side agrees with you. I go through phases of thinking that every gun I own has to be part of an interconnected master plan for TEOTWAWKI. But then I give in to a whim. Sometimes there is something so sweet about owning and shooting a rare and/or oddball gun. We need a nice Stoner 69 clone, to include the inverted and belt fed parts 
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Posted: 12/13/2013 7:06:02 AM EDT
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Robinson Arms already did a Stoner 63.
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