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Link Posted: 11/30/2018 1:33:28 PM EST
Any way to convert these to a 1x?

If so where to get parts?
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 1:52:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/30/2018 1:56:32 PM EST by IslandTimes]
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Originally Posted By ZedsDeadBaby:
Any way to convert these to a 1x?

If so where to get parts?
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The original 1x lenses are no longer available. From what I've read, you can use the adapter listed below with a 25mm c mount lens to achieve 1x magnification.

I've ordered the adapter, but not a lens. The lens is much harder to find, as you want one built for a 1" sensor, with manual focus, and ideally no shutter. These particular lens are commonly used for CCTV cameras, but have become popular with the micro 4/3 camera crowd.

You also want a high f stop on the lens. An f1.5 lens is a higher f stop than an f2.0 lens. Ideally you want to stay under f2.0
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 3:27:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/30/2018 3:52:41 PM EST by fmj_shooter]
Originally Posted By ZedsDeadBaby:
Any way to convert these to a 1x?

If so where to get parts?
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Originally Posted By IslandTimes:

The original 1x lenses are no longer available. From what I've read, you can use the adapter listed below with a 25mm c mount lens to achieve 1x magnification.

www.amazon.com/dp/B00JEROI5SI've ordered the adapter, but not a lens. The lens is much harder to find, as you want one built for a 1" sensor, with manual focus, and ideally no shutter. These particular lens are commonly used for CCTV cameras, but have become popular with the micro 4/3 camera crowd.

You also want a high f stop on the lens. An f1.5 lens is a higher f stop than an f2.0 lens. Ideally you want to stay under f2.0
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Some info here.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/Need_1x_lens_for_ATN_Night_Spirit_2__and_helmet_mount/18-469667/

Basically what Islandtimes said
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 4:37:40 PM EST
Wait why are you converting these?
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 6:32:35 PM EST
because I have several
Link Posted: 11/30/2018 8:31:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SIRIUS1:

To anyone who took the gamble and got some that didn't work and would like to unload theirs, shoot me an IM.
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Same here.
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 8:48:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By NSFJojo:
Wait why are you converting these?
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Because they are 3X magnification
Link Posted: 12/1/2018 8:17:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By IslandTimes:

I've ordered the adapter, but not a lens. The lens is much harder to find, as you want one built for a 1" sensor, with manual focus, and ideally no shutter. These particular lens are commonly used for CCTV cameras, but have become popular with the micro 4/3 camera crowd.

You also want a high f stop on the lens. An f1.5 lens is a higher f stop than an f2.0 lens. Ideally you want to stay under f2.0
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The Computar 25mm lenses mentioned in the other thread are a good option. They have a decent reputation in the astronomy community for use with night vision monoculars and those guys can be very picky about optical quality.
Link Posted: 12/3/2018 3:12:00 PM EST
My 2 units finally arrived. One had a heavily corroded/partially missing battery cap. Swapped the very clean and intact cap from the other unit and TADA!!!! We have light!

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The other units switch was fucked up and this one may have gotten left on when it broke.

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I threw a battery and the good cap on this one, no green glow. When I switched to the IR, the IR lit up (I checked it with my phone camera).

What would be the next step? Crack it open and look for loose broken stuff? Then put 3 volts to the tube leads?

OP, thanks for posting this deal. You helped this Po Boy get into another NV device.
Link Posted: 12/3/2018 3:29:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/3/2018 5:37:20 PM EST by fmj_shooter]
Gentlemen. Apex lists that they have one more in stock. EDIT. It's gone.

It was sold out before, but I got mine after they "sold out" once before.

My piggy banks are tapped out for the Holidays.
Link Posted: 12/4/2018 1:23:24 AM EST
If anyone wants to sell theirs, hit me up
Link Posted: 12/4/2018 11:24:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/4/2018 11:25:56 AM EST by fmj_shooter]
Hello all. Since I'm hacking into this thing to learn, I am taking photos. Figured it couldn't hurt to share.

It seems that everything on the inside was intact. No loose/broken connections.

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Link Posted: 12/4/2018 11:25:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/4/2018 11:27:34 AM EST by fmj_shooter]
Some more.

I touched the 2 leads on the tube onto a CR123 battery and got no glow. So I'm assuming this tube is dead, correct?

Maybe I'll get my mitts on a different tube that will fit and make this bad boy work.

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Link Posted: 12/4/2018 2:22:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By fmj_shooter:
Some more.

I touched the 2 leads on the tube onto a CR123 battery and got no glow. So I'm assuming this tube is dead, correct?

Maybe I'll get my mitts on a different tube that will fit and make this bad boy work.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/399622/KIMG1149_JPG-760447.JPG

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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/399622/KIMG1151_JPG-760449.JPG

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Dead unless the leads are fucked at the tube.
Link Posted: 12/4/2018 2:26:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/4/2018 2:59:14 PM EST by fmj_shooter]
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Originally Posted By ZedsDeadBaby:

Dead unless the leads are fucked at the tube.
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That's my thinkin. It makes sense, this was the unit with the destroyed knob on the switch. It may have gotten dropped and broken while running and got left on.

There was something like Gorilla glue all over everything, I can get the tube out becuase there is glue all over it. The tab that mates with the groove in the tube is gone.

EDIT. Tube is out.

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Link Posted: 12/5/2018 11:08:23 AM EST
I purchased two different 25mm lenses off of ebay to try out. One is a Computar 25mm f1.4, and the other is a Pentax 25mm f1.4 which looks to have larger lenses than the Computar. The Pentax was scheduled to be delivered today, except not since the mail isn't running today.

Question: I purchased several PVS14 mounts to use with the night spirit, but the mounts all have a small nub on them that interfaces with a PVS14. Should I file the nub off of the mounts, or remove some material from the night spirit so that the nubs fit?
Link Posted: 12/5/2018 12:45:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By IslandTimes:
I purchased two different 25mm lenses off of ebay to try out. One is a Computar 25mm f1.4, and the other is a Pentax 25mm f1.4 which looks to have larger lenses than the Computar. The Pentax was scheduled to be delivered today, except not since the mail isn't running today.

Question: I purchased several PVS14 mounts to use with the night spirit, but the mounts all have a small nub on them that interfaces with a PVS14. Should I file the nub off of the mounts, or remove some material from the night spirit so that the nubs fit?
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@Islandtimes

I usually modify the part that is cheaper/easier to replace. In this case the PVS14 mount.

Let me know which lens works I'd like to get one for my working unit. Should probably get a PVS14 mount too.
Link Posted: 12/6/2018 7:22:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By IslandTimes:
I purchased two different 25mm lenses off of ebay to try out. One is a Computar 25mm f1.4, and the other is a Pentax 25mm f1.4 which looks to have larger lenses than the Computar. The Pentax was scheduled to be delivered today, except not since the mail isn't running today.

Question: I purchased several PVS14 mounts to use with the night spirit, but the mounts all have a small nub on them that interfaces with a PVS14. Should I file the nub off of the mounts, or remove some material from the night spirit so that the nubs fit?
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It's waay to heavy to be doing this conversion. But post pics!
Link Posted: 12/6/2018 7:28:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/6/2018 7:42:37 PM EST by IslandTimes]
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Originally Posted By fmj_shooter:
@Islandtimes

I usually modify the part that is cheaper/easier to replace. In this case the PVS14 mount.

Let me know which lens works I'd like to get one for my working unit. Should probably get a PVS14 mount too.
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Originally Posted By fmj_shooter:
Originally Posted By IslandTimes:
I purchased two different 25mm lenses off of ebay to try out. One is a Computar 25mm f1.4, and the other is a Pentax 25mm f1.4 which looks to have larger lenses than the Computar. The Pentax was scheduled to be delivered today, except not since the mail isn't running today.

Question: I purchased several PVS14 mounts to use with the night spirit, but the mounts all have a small nub on them that interfaces with a PVS14. Should I file the nub off of the mounts, or remove some material from the night spirit so that the nubs fit?
@Islandtimes

I usually modify the part that is cheaper/easier to replace. In this case the PVS14 mount.

Let me know which lens works I'd like to get one for my working unit. Should probably get a PVS14 mount too.
Okay, the Cosmicar/Pentax lens came in today... and it works great! This lens must be for a 1" sensor as there is minimal vignetting. There is some fisheye, but the 3x lens also has that problem.

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Link Posted: 12/6/2018 7:37:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/6/2018 7:45:17 PM EST by IslandTimes]
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Originally Posted By NSFJojo:
It's waay to heavy to be doing this conversion. But post pics!
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Originally Posted By NSFJojo:
Originally Posted By IslandTimes:
I purchased two different 25mm lenses off of ebay to try out. One is a Computar 25mm f1.4, and the other is a Pentax 25mm f1.4 which looks to have larger lenses than the Computar. The Pentax was scheduled to be delivered today, except not since the mail isn't running today.

Question: I purchased several PVS14 mounts to use with the night spirit, but the mounts all have a small nub on them that interfaces with a PVS14. Should I file the nub off of the mounts, or remove some material from the night spirit so that the nubs fit?
It's waay to heavy to be doing this conversion. But post pics!
As far as weight:

NS2 w/ 3x lens - 22.9 oz

3x lens - 10.1 oz

NS2 w/ 1x lens - 15.5 oz

So yeah, it's a little heavy, but doesn't seem too bad considering. I don't yet have a helmet or crye nightcap to try it with. This lens does have a shutter, so if you removed that you'd lose a little more weight.
Link Posted: 12/6/2018 10:20:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/6/2018 10:23:50 PM EST by fmj_shooter]
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Originally Posted By IslandTimes:

As far as weight:

NS2 w/ 3x lens - 22.9 oz

3x lens - 10.1 oz

NS2 w/ 1x lens - 15.5 oz

So yeah, it's a little heavy, but doesn't seem too bad considering. I don't yet have a helmet or crye nightcap to try it with. This lens does have a shutter, so if you removed that you'd lose a little more weight.
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Awesome man! I'll have to pic up one of those lenses. That image looks great. It's also a huge weight reduction. I have a couple different mount ideas.

Is this the right lens? @IslandTimes

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cosmicar-Pentax-25mm-1-1-4-f1-4-C-Mount-Lens-CCTV-M4-3-Q-Digital-Cameras/153205900776?hash=item23abc885e8:g:CoQAAOSw6EZbtjZA
Link Posted: 12/6/2018 11:12:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By fmj_shooter:
Awesome man! I'll have to pic up one of those lenses. That image looks great. It's also a huge weight reduction. I have a couple different mount ideas.

Is this the right lens? @IslandTimes

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cosmicar-Pentax-25mm-1-1-4-f1-4-C-Mount-Lens-CCTV-M4-3-Q-Digital-Cameras/153205900776?hash=item23abc885e8:g:CoQAAOSw6EZbtjZA
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Originally Posted By fmj_shooter:
Originally Posted By IslandTimes:

As far as weight:

NS2 w/ 3x lens - 22.9 oz

3x lens - 10.1 oz

NS2 w/ 1x lens - 15.5 oz

So yeah, it's a little heavy, but doesn't seem too bad considering. I don't yet have a helmet or crye nightcap to try it with. This lens does have a shutter, so if you removed that you'd lose a little more weight.
Awesome man! I'll have to pic up one of those lenses. That image looks great. It's also a huge weight reduction. I have a couple different mount ideas.

Is this the right lens? @IslandTimes

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cosmicar-Pentax-25mm-1-1-4-f1-4-C-Mount-Lens-CCTV-M4-3-Q-Digital-Cameras/153205900776?hash=item23abc885e8:g:CoQAAOSw6EZbtjZA
@fmj_shooter yep, looks to be the same one I ordered.
Link Posted: 12/8/2018 9:18:45 PM EST
That's actually really fucking cool dude, nice work! The 10130 project ever take off?
Link Posted: 12/9/2018 1:53:56 PM EST
I have one to spare if someone wants to PM me.

It is totally dead in regard to the tube. I will sell it for exactly what it cost me.
Link Posted: 12/9/2018 7:48:15 PM EST
So the mounts don't quite line up, but this works okay. I don't have anywhere to actually shoot it like this, but I don't think it would be horrible. A non cantilever mount for the aimpoint might actually work better.

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The bottom picture is with the IR weapon light on.

Really hard to get a good picture. The images were actually very crisp.
Link Posted: 12/11/2018 9:40:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/11/2018 9:42:29 PM EST by brich2929]
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Originally Posted By NSFJojo:
That's actually really fucking cool dude, nice work! The 10130 project ever take off?
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this @uniquesnd
Link Posted: 12/11/2018 9:51:09 PM EST
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this @uniquesnd
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Originally Posted By NSFJojo:
That's actually really fucking cool dude, nice work! The 10130 project ever take off?
this @uniquesnd
Still on the hunt for a good MX1030 to use. The one I used for mock up needs a new PSU.
Link Posted: 12/11/2018 10:37:08 PM EST
The Computar 25mm f1.4 lens came in and I was able to try it out. While the lens is shorter than the Pentax lens, the field of view seems to be the same, with a negative being that it is a heavier lens.

Side by side the picture did seem dimmer through the Computar lens, but that may have just been the tube.
Link Posted: 12/11/2018 11:09:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By uniquesnd:

Still on the hunt for a good MX1030 to use. The one I used for mock up needs a new PSU.
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What's a fair price for a MX10130 tube? I've been looking for one for awhile.
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