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Posted: 12/4/2007 10:32:02 AM EDT
I was shooting today, and found some interesting brass on the ground. It has been made form some cut down 5.56 brass - all LC-04. The split lines seem to be evenly spaced, like it was a crimped blank.

I've shown a few of these next to a .300 Whisper case and a 5.56 case. Any idea what they are?

Link Posted: 12/4/2007 10:34:19 AM EDT
I don't know, but that's interesting. I'm sure someone will know...
Link Posted: 12/4/2007 10:41:55 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/4/2007 10:42:57 AM EDT

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Link Posted: 12/4/2007 10:48:41 AM EDT
I believe your assessment is correct, in that they are made from 5.56 blanks. The case mouths make me think that they are some type of blank, or lead shot round.
Link Posted: 12/4/2007 10:50:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Scooter4736:

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Link Posted: 12/4/2007 10:51:24 AM EDT
Is there a case stamp? Could it be .357 Sig rat shot? Something like that...

Shane
Link Posted: 12/4/2007 10:53:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GarrettJ:

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Old school tag.
Link Posted: 12/4/2007 10:54:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ShaneS:
Is there a case stamp? Could it be .357 Sig rat shot? Something like that...

As stated above, it's all made from LC-04 military 5.56 brass.
Link Posted: 12/4/2007 10:56:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ShaneS:
Is there a case stamp? Could it be .357 Sig rat shot? Something like that...

Shane

You didn't actually read his post did you?

It's definatly a M200 case
Someone reloading M200's, set the shoulder way back for some reason, notice how the shoulder isn't straight, like the made a crimp die themselves.
Link Posted: 12/4/2007 12:12:39 PM EDT
If I had one guess I would say someone was experimenting with a shotshell cart for a 30 mauser or maybe a 9mm shotshell cartridge

I took the pic and reduced it to actual size the shoulder is about the same spot as on the 30 mauser but not quit the same angle hard to tell without measurements
Link Posted: 12/4/2007 1:44:48 PM EDT
I remember seeing something like that with the tip painted red once. My dad found it at the range and brought it home, it hung around for a few days but we never figured out what it was. Always wondered.
Link Posted: 12/4/2007 1:52:23 PM EDT
could be blanks made up for the 7.62x25 Tokarev.

advntrjnky
Link Posted: 12/4/2007 5:38:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By advntrjnky:
could be blanks made up for the 7.62x25 Tokarev.

advntrjnky


That does look likely...

Link Posted: 12/4/2007 8:14:48 PM EDT
7.93x33 Kurz maybe?
Link Posted: 12/4/2007 8:56:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/4/2007 9:01:28 PM EDT by ADaughen]

Originally Posted By cyclone:
7.93x33 Kurz maybe?


Bottom of page 43 (allow room for crimp)
www.dia.mil/publicaffairs/Foia/smcal_vol1.pdf

Word is they don't make 8mm Kurz anymore. :(

Runs in the StG43/44.

ETA: Corrected page. PDF page 43, bottom of the page says 26 though.
Link Posted: 12/5/2007 3:25:11 AM EDT
8mm kurz (7.92x33) is still made by PRVI and sold by Coles (among others).....and it has a .308 size rim, so couldn't be made out of 5.56.

advntrjnky
Link Posted: 12/5/2007 5:39:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/5/2007 5:42:07 AM EDT by Green_Canoe]
It's a fired 9x19mm blank cartridge.

Measure the OD of the smaller diameter. If it is around .356 +/- the reduced dia. section is the "bullet" to allow it to be fed from the magazine. The crimp forms the nose of the "bullet". The length of the larger dia. section should be in the ballpark of 19mm long, of course.
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