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Posted: 7/11/2006 3:44:36 AM EDT
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If people could put it on an AR, they would be falling all over themselves to get one.
I personally think it is a great idea. The sights on FALs are the weak point. I am glad that someone is giving this design the attention it deserves. |
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I think DSA's pricing is a little overboard in general. This is a battle rifle, not a work of art.
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That price is steep. I do find the stock somewhat intruiging, however, & actually not entirely ugly. Stock design ergonomics have been getting more attention recently w/ the various AR offerings, the SCAR program, etc. DSA is primarily in the FAL business; developing the FAL line is what they do. If it were half that price, I'd probably try one. |
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I was refering to all their products, in general, not just the stock. |
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What's even better is this:
For $650 you do not get what you see in that picture! The Lower, pistol grip, and I assume all of the internals in the lower are sold seperately! |
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Another stupid waste of materials at the hands of the firearms industry. Is it "tactical" now? I'm so sick of stupid unnecessary accesories for firearms. I do believe this is the first negative comment I have made about DSA.
That stock just ain't gonna sell. |
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Magpul is making a PRS for the FAL, as well as a few other guns.
I don't think this stock will be selling all that well. |
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Holy red ink Batman! How many business geniuses did it take to screw in that light bulb? |
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All of that and they forgot to put a magwell in that buttstock.
I do not know if that stock assembly will sell. I do know that it will not sell on the MDK plantation. |
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That bears a striking resemblance to MAGPULS PRS stock...only skelatonized. Stupid DSA. Any yes...it does look like crap.
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Didn't DSArms have an entry in the SASS competition? Maybe that was their stock for that project... the requirements included a lot of adjustments IIRC.
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I personally think DSA has gone a little too far with almost all of their pricing . . . . . .
Their prices are what keeps me from owning some of their rifles. |
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+1 |
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Called that one it would appear |
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I love the Hampton lower with integral M-16 / AR-15 A-2 fully adjustable sights!! QUESTION - What does it mean "Closed Ear Belgian Gas Block"? I have an Austrian StG58 (apears to be open eared Austrian ) so does that mean I can't use a lower like this? I have been saying that if the FAL just had a rear adjustable sight like the M-15 or M-1A it would be perfect. I sure don't want to have to pull apart my StGs gas system though... Any insights on this are GREATLY appreciated! Thanks BIGGER_HAMMER |
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BH do your Stg's ears have holes in them? Shouldn't if they are Stg. The Inch, Izzy and some Argy FAL variants have open ear (holes in the sight protector ears) front sight blocks. Metric rifles have closed ear front sight blocks (solid ears).
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Question: Are you saying that all metric rifles have close ear front sight blocks? or are you saying that the inch some izzy and some argy FALs (which are metric) have open ears too? HUNTER. |
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the A2 sight lower makes a lot of sense, however have the wheels been recalibrated to the 7.62 round?
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I like FALs, but one would not be my choice for building a precision rifle.
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The STG58 and the G1 do have a closed ear gas block as do most (if not all) belgian made FALS do.
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Hate to disagree with you guys, but thats a great price considering DSA used hyposynergetic chromium moly-vanadium julioiglesiaschucknorris design with the original blue prints smuggled into their HQ! WHAT DON'T YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND!!!
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Indeeeeeeeed, way too high - must be smokin de ganja
BTW, Chapper, what are/have you been buying lately? Any good deals????? |
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This one: or are you saying that the inch some izzy and some argy FALs (which are metric) have open ears too? And the T-48, early Belgian (M1?), probably some others too. |
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You know what, that is a great idea. As we all know, the rear sight is a weak point in the FAL design and this fixes that BIG TIME. |
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What an ugly stock.....it may have some functional benefits, so long as you're willing to have the stupidest looking rifle at the range. I suppose function before form...but geez.
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Patience lads, no one is going to buy one of these, so the price will drop rapidly. Argy's have open ears and taller sights, front and rear, although they are metric. An STG58 front sight will work just fine with the AR rear sight set up that DSA offers.
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Argy's actually got both open and closed ears. HUNTER. |
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I have an Argy barrel with the open sights. I ended up using an Izzy rear, as the front sight was taller and also used an Izzy front sight post. I wonder if the Argy closed ear front sights are lower?
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I've just received the A2 sighted Hampton lower. All my parts dropped in no problem. Stock fitted tight, everything looks good. Rest of my rifle is with Rich at CGW getting a rebarrel. When the two get together I'll give a range report.
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I agree that Metrics have crapulous rear sights, I like L1A1 sights better. BUT heres a brainstorm for ya, Why don't the guys at ARMS or LaRue or CMT or one of the approximately 500,000 high speed low drag companies build an ehanced rear sight assy that would just fit into the existing rear sight dovetail??? I'd much rather have that than replace the whole buggerin' lower with the DSA A2 lower. Ewwwww I just applied an AR term to a FAL, wierd wierd wierd, what's the world coming too?
Or hell someone could make a little picatinny adapter to fit in there, then you could just bolt on your poision of chioce... Q Oh yeah, it's ugly and too expensive Q |
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My question EXACTLY, as I was going to get this lower for the OSW I am damned near convinced of getting, overpriced a much as it is... The mag capacity problem is solved with Bren gun mags, the flash and sound signatures by a suppressor, and now the sight problem is licked... This just may be a good weapon by the time I get it! Now, to get a collapsible folding stock that will take a MagPul M-93 carbine stock, or something similar, so I can use it over body armor... |
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Found the stock adapter in another thread: ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=7&t=203338&page=1 |
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Meh. I'll stick with my Austrian stock unless I upgrade to walnut one of these days.
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