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I live in an appartment . i would like to start reloading . but is it sensible inside an appartment? i may be able to do my tumbling at work .
would like to do .223 .308 and 9mm and .45 the rifle rounds would be what i would want to start with so what all would i need any recomendations ? also about how much is a tumbler thanks alot Nick |
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Reloading in an apt is no big deal, I've set up a respectable bench in a small studio apt when I took over the lease for my brother.
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I used to do it.
I used a Lee Challenger press bolted to a piece of 2x4, used a C-clamp to clamp it to a desk and removed it when I wasn't using it. I didn't have a tumbler back then. I just lived with tarnished, ugly brass. ![]() You could try liquid type brass cleaners, maybe. |
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Yeah its no biggie, i needed a portable reloading place and all the great ARFCOMers helped me out. Now i have a lee turrent mounted on a 2x8 and it works like a charm. Lymans tumbler isnt that noisy.
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I live in an apartment and I reload.
My kitchen table has two holes drilled in it and a pair of those nuts with the flanges and and spikes (like you find in the bottom of furniture legs) in the holes to mount my press. But then this table has been my reloading bench since 1979. Looong before I moved into this crappy little apartment. I have a Lyman 600 tumbler that sits on the shelf in the top a closet. Below that is one of the smaller roll around tool boxes with a top box on it. Top box has my tools, bottom box stores the powder and larger tools. Brass and bullets are kept in .50 cal ammo cans. Doesn't take up too much room and works well for me. |
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Rifle brass can be wiped down prior to sizing. Pistol brass can be cleaned the same way. You could buy a RCBS rotary tumbler. It makes less noise. |
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Ok so first thing i need is a press im guessing .
tumbler would be ok once i got started? |
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The issue with a tumbler in an apartment is the noise. And that's something you can work on pretty easily, once you have a bench and get your press set up.
For the bench, you'll need something solid that fits in your space restrictions. In the last apartment I lived in, we had a "bonus room," a room that was big enough to be a small bedroom but lacked a closet. That was my loading room, and I had a 30"X60" bench in it. But it's possible, even very simple, to load using a WorkMate (or even better, a clone) as the basis for your bench. Once you get that handled, it's time to work on making a tumbler quiet enough that the neighbors won't be disturbed. You could put it on a cushioned surface to minimize sound transmission to whatever it's on, and then put something sound-deadening around it—without blocking the flow of air, of course. First things first: what amount of space do you have for loading? |
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I live in a condo with carpet and reload in the second bedroom. I tumble during the day and I place my tumbler on a 18"x18" tile that keeps airflow going and keeps it centered. I use a Dillon CV-500 which has a good sized motor. Once the tumbler is full, it's actually a bit more quiet, but you can always get a big box and turn it upside down and over the machine. Line the box if you want and check for heat build up, but holes can help that and it will muffle the sound moreso. Also, get a tile and put it on foam if you're above somebody and then put the tumbler on that. Other than those tips, just get a single stage press, trimmer and the usual stuff if rifle carts are the ones you want to start with first. Check the reloading FAQ section, but you can tumble for an hour or so, get super shiney brass and do it in 90 minutes or less with some fine mesh walnut and some Dillon Rapid polish. No need to tumble through the night. Chris |
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The Lee Hand press easily handles all the calibers you mentioned, and it requires no bench or mounting. I started with a Lee Hand Press, and I made some of my most accurate 223 ammo with it.
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OK . i have a large closet to store everything in.
I can tumble at work so noise wont be an issue . Now what do i need to do the rest . powder measuring and stuff like that ive watched you tube on sizing and depriming . im guessing ill need the little hand reamer for crimped stuff |
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To get "clean brass" consider...........chemical cleaning.
As for the LEE Hand Press as a first press..........I'd stay away from it. IMHO.........go with a standard single station, instead. Either, bench mounted or mounted on a scrap of wood and C clamped to a more sturdy base. ![]()
Aloha, Mark |
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I guess I am more paranoid than everyone else. I rented a house for 10 years and had no problem having a complete setup because no one not even the land lord entered the house, I had the only key.
When I moved to Corpus I moved into an apartment building, in that apartment I would never even consider setting up my stuff. There were too many people in and out that I didn't know while I wasn't home, exterminator, maintenance , and who knows who else. I didn't have a gun safe so I didn't want to give any clue that I had guns. For 3 years the reloading equipment stayed boxed up, I have since bought a house so it is no concern now. I would suggest you get a setup that can be hidden after each use, something inexpensive because it is very likely you want to upgrade later and no longer use the temporary press . Like I mentioned, I may be paranoid, but it is something to consider. Too many people get their guns stolen because someone knows they're there, and break in specifically to steal the guns. |
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Why? |
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Hence the hand press. For those who want better than Lee, Meecham makes the best hand press on the market. |
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Nothing wrong with learning to reload with a hand press. I did, and from day one my reloads were more accurate and consistent than almost all the factory ammo I had been using.
Now I use a Redding Big Boss II because I have more space, but it doesn't make more accurate ammo, and it really doesn't save that much time. One could actually argue advantages of using a hand press to start, such as a much better "feel" for bullet seating and other operations. |
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I reloaded for several years in an apt. I did all my tumbling outside the front door. I set up my dinner table and a reloading bench.
Good Luck! |
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I started with a used single station press. After years of experience, with the single station I graduated to a Dillon progressive press. Somewhere along the way, I bought a LEE hand press. I thought, I could get some simple re-loading in, during breaks at work. So, having owned and used one (hand press) with .308 Win........well, it wasn't RIGHT for ME and I sold it off. So, based on my experience with it..........I don't suggest it as a FIRST PRESS. That's just, MY OPINION. It's just so much faster and easier to use a regular single station. And, the cost of a single station, isn't that much over the hand press. Then.........IF you remember back a few months............there was a guy with "problems" with his hand press. It came down to the FACT that he wasn't re-sizing his brass "all the way." Yes, it takes some MUSCLE POWER to get those handles together all the way, to re-size brass. IF a regular single station was used.........I suspect, that he would have benefited by the leverage, during the re-sizing of his cases. And........YES, there are "others" out there with problems w/ re-sizing and die adjustment. They own Dillon, RCBS, LEE and/or whatever brands. Problems, aren't limited by brand or type of press. Though, some BLUE KOOL AID drinkers may have you thinking otherwise. May I suggest: Get a good manual (or several) and a mentor. And.......It's only MY advice: "As for the LEE Hand Press as a first press..........I'd stay away from it." What you do, is up to you. As always: YMWV. Aloha, Mark PS............ ![]()
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Just realized that the link......is DEAD.......SORRY.
ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=42&t=246782 ___________________________________________________ IF you want to use a LEE Hand Press........... ![]()
YMWV........and it's only my .02. Aloha, Mark |
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I have never had any issues sizing 308 in the hand press. I use imperial. I can do a couple of push-ups too.
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YES.......I figured that it was a matter of PERSONAL experience.
Some-a-do.........and.........some-a-don't. Aloha, Mark |
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This, except it was a 2x6. About 2 foot long gives you enough room to mount the powder dispenser as well. |
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Bench Grinder Stand
![]() Mount the press to a nice piece of wood and C-clamp it to the top of the stand... also helps if you add a nice wood base to the bottom of the stand. when you are done you can put the press away and throw a table cloth on top of the stand. |
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ONLY PROBLEM.........the landlord may not like the holes in the floor (be it garage or in the home/apt.). The re-sizing process puts a lot of stress...........be careful of tip over accidents. _________________________________________ IF you don't want a dedicated bench. Note: Some folks have used a Black and Decker WorkMate as their portable bench. Some have bought the Frankford Arsenal Portable Stand/Bench (from Midway USA). And, as mentioned before, the press can be mounted on scrap wood and C clamped to the kitchen table. Aloha, Mark |
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Me my reloading bench is actually an old computer desk, i just used one of the side pieces from the extra top shelf thing and added it to the area where i mount my press.
as for a tumbler...... get one, just use it during the day and at times when there is a normal ammount of noise in the building. since I want mine a bit quieter I put a few old towels which are rags under it and am around while it runs in case it gets a tad hot which has not happened yet. |
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I use a vibrating cleaner in my apartment with no problems. I try to be considerate. I only run it during the day.
I have a 18" X 24" piece of 3/4" plywood drilled to mount my Hornady L-N-L progressive press. The plywood is then bolted to a Black & Decker Workmate. Wing nuts make quick work of putting it together and breaking back down. When not in use, the press and other assorted stuff go in a plastic tote and the workmate folds up for storage in the back of the closet. |
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i am in an apartment too. the most difficult part is to find the place to mount the 550B. I finally mounted on a folding sheet metal chair that you can find in cheap lunch room. some day i'll take a picture.
the rest is no issue. |
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The morons that live next to be bought rock band a couple months ago. Now, they face the rath of my vibratory cleaner at 7 AM. |
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