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Posted: 10/2/2004 12:57:33 PM EST
Gents
What is your take on this rifle? I have a chance to buy one. Is it worth it or should I get a M21?

Thanks
Max
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 6:14:26 PM EST
What is IDF? Israeli Defense Forces?
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 2:59:05 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 4:49:24 AM EST
Here is a little info on them.
www.isayeret.com/weapons/sws/m14/m14.htm
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:28:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 4:55:00 PM EST by 50cal]
A friend bought one and it is a good shooter. He got it off of AuctionArms for a damn good price.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:09:13 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:50:41 AM EST
As I recall Springfield Armory sold some of these a few years ago.Basically getting a parts kit from demilled IDF M-14's and putting them on new SA receivers. there were 2 diffrent stocks available and it came fitted with the original optics (can't remember for the life of me what the scopes were). You don't mention the price of the one your looking at so it' difficult to say what the better buy is. The IDF will likely be all USGI parts with the exception of the receiver but will have seen service in a pretty harsh environment. M-21 is a gorgeous piece of work but as much as I love my SA National Match if I were to do it again I'd probably have Fulton Armory or some other smith build one on a LRB receiver. Another thing to consider is that these are both very mission specific weapons, that is, they sacrifice the flexibility of a standard battle rifle for greater accuracy at extended ranges.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:11:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By MadBodhi:
As I recall Springfield Armory sold some of these a few years ago.Basically getting a parts kit from demilled IDF M-14's and putting them on new SA receivers. there were 2 diffrent stocks available and it came fitted with the original optics (can't remember for the life of me what the scopes were). You don't mention the price of the one your looking at so it' difficult to say what the better buy is. The IDF will likely be all USGI parts with the exception of the receiver but will have seen service in a pretty harsh environment.



I'm almost positive the scopes were 6 power Nimrods. I bought a beat to crap one (wasn't nice enough finish for sale on one of their IDF guns) from Springfield at Camp Perry a few years back. It was a great scope, but I sold it to a friend who still has it on his M1A. IIRC, the stocks did look just like the ones in the pic above, but in person they look like shit. They are basically an old figerglass stock with a another grafted on butt section to act as a cheekpiece. They had some beat up ones they wanted (I think) 50 bucks for, but I went and picked up a bunch of scratch and dent wood and figerglass stocks for around 10 bucks a piece.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:51:46 PM EST
From the free online book M14 Rifle History and Development at www.imageseek.com/m1a

In the late 1990s Springfield Armory, Inc. bought the parts from 200 Israeli Defense Force M14 rifles. The parts from these rifles, including the Harris bipods, Israeli Military Industries stocks and scope mounts and Nimrod 6X range finding scopes, were assembled on to commercial Springfield Armory receivers with heavy weight match grade barrels. They were sold as a limited run model in 1999.

Yes, the Israelis had two version of stocks for their M14 sniper rifles.

I examined M1A IDF M1A serial number 095 in September 2004 at a gun shop in Las Vegas, NV. I did not shoot it but it looked good to me. FWIW
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 12:09:39 PM EST
Gents found a nice one and I am getting it. My famous last words are " This is going to be the last one I buy."



Man this hobby is freakin expensive

Max
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 1:06:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By Chuck:
Your friend bought what off Auction Arms again? An IDF modified M14 rifle?! Or a Springfield Armory Inc. M1A Rifle?

Before we get all twittered about IDF modified M14 Rifles recall IDF only fights in a very localized climate and terrain. US Army has to be prepared to fight anywhere and our equipment has to be able to do the same.

-- Chuck



+1
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 4:09:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By maxell27:
Gents found a nice one and I am getting it. My famous last words are " This is going to be the last one I buy."





Max



Never heard of the Rule of Two have you?
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 11:23:20 PM EST
50

I believe in the rule of twos. But I now have 4 M1As.



Max
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 12:03:31 AM EST
Join the Rule of Twos Club. You won't regret it.
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 2:52:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By Different:
Join the Rule of Twos Club. You won't regret it.



Can I start the "Rule of 1 1/2 Club"?

I've got a M1A and a M4gery-type AR as a back-up piece to it...
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 3:40:38 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/13/2004 2:47:42 PM EST
I have one of these brand new with all of the accessories. If interested drop me an e-mail.

jr1572

jr1572@aol.com
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