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Posted: 1/16/2015 10:30:28 AM EST
I kinda sorta impulse bid on a Winchester 1917 that's been reworked and re-barreled with a High Standard barrel, curious if I could get a post-bid opinion. I haven't bid much so maybe you could save me from upping if I'm making a mistake.

I'm looking for a decent rifle that'll still be a shooter. Obviously matching isn't an issue as long as it is solid.
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As long as your not the seller, I don't see why it would violate the rules.
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
As long as your not the seller, I don't see why it would violate the rules.
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Red sticky at the top says "No Links to Live Auctions!!!"
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As long as your not the seller, I don't see why it would violate the rules.


Red sticky at the top says "No Links to Live Auctions!!!"
Lol, I got here from Active Topics and hadn't seen that. I guess too many guys were throwing up links to auctions.

How about reposting pictures of the item and letting everyone give their opinion here.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 12:07:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
As long as your not the seller, I don't see why it would violate the rules.


Red sticky at the top says "No Links to Live Auctions!!!"


How about just posting GB Auction # 461797786 ? I can find it with a # by just searching for it on GB's site.
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How about just posting GB Auction # 461797786 ? I can find it with a # by just searching for it on GB's site.
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Originally Posted By King_Mud:
Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
As long as your not the seller, I don't see why it would violate the rules.


Red sticky at the top says "No Links to Live Auctions!!!"


How about just posting GB Auction # 461797786 ? I can find it with a # by just searching for it on GB's site.


Item Number:463717564

Like I said, I already bid so if it's not a good example let me know, gently though please.


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Current bidding is not at all out of line. I bet it goes considerably higher.

A Winchester with a HS rebarrel (WW2 rework) should be OK. The ones to watch out for are rebarreled Eddystones, that might have cracked receiver rings.
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Current bidding is not at all out of line. I bet it goes considerably higher.

A Winchester with a HS rebarrel (WW2 rework) should be OK. The ones to watch out for are rebarreled Eddystones, that might have cracked receiver rings.
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Current bidding is not at all out of line. I bet it goes considerably higher.

A Winchester with a HS rebarrel (WW2 rework) should be OK. The ones to watch out for are rebarreled Eddystones, that might have cracked receiver rings.


I thought it looked good but I'm not much of an expert. I imagine it may go for more than I can spend but figured I'd try, especially considering the auction description. Maybe I'll get lucky. Thanks!

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Link Posted: 1/17/2015 12:57:27 AM EST
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Maybe I need to post up my two Eddystones.....I'd make a nice little profit if they went for that.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 10:37:05 AM EST
Best bet would be another website, I see more locked threads here than anywhere else.

Snowman357
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I would ask to see a scan of the DCM paperwork. If the serial matches up you should be good to go. If it really is a DCM Winchester then I expect the cost to go way up before it ends.


SLYHUNTR, Eddystone prices around here are usually in the $600-700 range for nice examples. I would not be at all surprised to see that Winchester well over a thousand at auction end.



There is a Service Grade Winchester M1D sniper rifle at auction on the CMP site with no scope or mount. Present bid with 6+ days to go is almost $1900. Something about the Winchester name that makes people go nuts at auction.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 10:36:11 PM EST
Something about that receiver doesn't look right, as if it was welded back together. Look at the discoloration on both left and right sides roughly directly apart from each other. Makes me skeptical. Also, it's obviously been parkerized at some point, whether at an arsenal or by somebody, if original it would be blued.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 10:50:50 AM EST
I noticed the discoloration as well but if it is a documented DCM rifle it will not be a reweld. If the only DCM provenance is the sellers word that it is a DCM rifle I would pass.
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Something about that receiver doesn't look right, as if it was welded back together. Look at the discoloration on both left and right sides roughly directly apart from each other. Makes me skeptical. Also, it's obviously been parkerized at some point, whether at an arsenal or by somebody, if original it would be blued.
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I was curious about that and did some research, apparently it is a common artifact of the heat treat process that shows up when the rifles are reparked at arsenal. It seems very common on reworked 1917s, some even had their letter from the DCM or were personally bought by the owners from the DCM and still had the discoloration. Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Thank you though, things like that were what I was worried about.

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Originally Posted By King_Mud:
I was curious about that and did some research, apparently it is a common artifact of the heat treat process that shows up when the rifles are reparked at arsenal. It seems very common on reworked 1917s, some even had their letter from the DCM or were personally bought by the owners from the DCM and still had the discoloration. Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Thank you though, things like that were what I was worried about.

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Originally Posted By abtex1:
Something about that receiver doesn't look right, as if it was welded back together. Look at the discoloration on both left and right sides roughly directly apart from each other. Makes me skeptical. Also, it's obviously been parkerized at some point, whether at an arsenal or by somebody, if original it would be blued.
I was curious about that and did some research, apparently it is a common artifact of the heat treat process that shows up when the rifles are reparked at arsenal. It seems very common on reworked 1917s, some even had their letter from the DCM or were personally bought by the owners from the DCM and still had the discoloration. Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Thank you though, things like that were what I was worried about.

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I'd ask to see this "DCM" provenance. Legitimate provenance. If I had a nickel for every time I had someone tell me this or that rifle is a DCM I'd have some gamblin' money in my pocket. People throw out the letters DCM like a punchline that's supposed to magically add something to the firearm. I'd also ask for better up close pics of the sides of the receiver.

There are many reactivated drill rifles showing up out there right now. 1903s, 1917s, Garands, etc. Also, the last gunshow I was at we had a fellow bring by a 1911 he just bought, it had fresh parkerizing on it and was cleverly welded from scrap receiver parts. He had no idea. Always best to ask the questions up front and approach everything with caution.

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