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Posted: 5/28/2019 7:02:08 PM EDT
Not sure how this happened, but I sure as hell didn't like the X95 near as much as the SAR...

My X95 would shoot a nice solid 4" group - the SAR with 55grainers shoots a 1.5" group or so.

I like the SAR charging handle position more. I learned on HK91's as a kid...so that's my hangup there.

Anyone else in the same boat?
Link Posted: 5/28/2019 8:42:59 PM EDT
SAR is better.....
Link Posted: 5/28/2019 10:45:15 PM EDT
Never tried the x95, but the SAR is my shtf rifle. Fawesome with a TMF handguard with light mounted inside.
Link Posted: 5/28/2019 11:05:18 PM EDT
I was/am ambivalent about the x95. I like the SAR much more. It feels much more comfortable for me and shoots very naturally.
Link Posted: 5/28/2019 11:09:39 PM EDT
Been shooting my sar with an eotech in the local carbine matches past few months I love it.
Easiest gun I've ever shot unsupported prone
Link Posted: 5/28/2019 11:12:53 PM EDT
Had a SAR.
Had a SAR and a X95.
Have two SARs and no X95.
Link Posted: 5/29/2019 5:55:12 AM EDT
Had SAR and X95.
Have X95 and no SAR.

“Think you could'a found something bigger?”
Link Posted: 5/29/2019 7:02:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jekbrown:
Never tried the x95, but the SAR is my shtf rifle. Fawesome with a TMF handguard with light mounted inside.
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Sounds cool....have any pics?
Link Posted: 5/29/2019 10:46:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/29/2019 10:47:12 AM EDT by Findsman]
Have a SAR with an X95 hammer pack I picked up used from someone that upgraded to one of the $$$ packs. The pull on the original SARs is about the only thing about them that isn't great, and the X95 pack is good enough for a working rifle. More of my frustration of expensive guns shipping with bad triggers out of the box.

I know the X95 is the current IDF version, but it doesn't do it for me. The early accuracy issues were a turn off as well, whether or not they got resolved I haven't heard conclusively. I'd cave if they made the X95-R available domestically though.

I like how the Tavor 7 appears to combine the best of both designs - hopefully we get them eventually.
Link Posted: 5/29/2019 10:56:46 AM EDT
0 desire to own a X95...

Ergoes are so much better on SAR...slap a manticore buttpad...perfection
Link Posted: 5/29/2019 2:24:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/29/2019 2:25:10 PM EDT by Seven-Shooter]


Only X95 part I own is the trigger pack. I much prefer the feel and location of everything on my SAR, though admittedly the X95 could be brought up to speed much easier and much cheaper.
Link Posted: 5/29/2019 5:00:03 PM EDT
Had a sar when first released, once I found out the availability of the x95...sold the sar for the x95 and no regrets doing so.
Link Posted: 5/29/2019 5:07:53 PM EDT
Own both, SAR is better.
Link Posted: 5/30/2019 12:17:58 AM EDT
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Own both, like the sar better myself also
Link Posted: 5/30/2019 4:48:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/30/2019 4:49:33 AM EDT by jekbrown]
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Originally Posted By M4:

Sounds cool....have any pics?
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Sure, np!

 

I love this set up. No bbl shadow, nothing sticking out to snag on anything with either the light body or the switch. Light is front loading, so no disassembly to switch batteries either. Much now elegant than any type of AR light mounting solution.
Link Posted: 5/30/2019 4:18:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jekbrown:

Sure, np!

https://ck5.com/forums/media/tavor-sar.33579/full 

I love this set up. No bbl shadow, nothing sticking out to snag on anything with either the light body or the switch. Light is front loading, so no disassembly to switch batteries either. Much now elegant than any type of AR light mounting solution.
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Which light is that? I have the handguard, never found a suitable light for it.
Link Posted: 5/30/2019 4:23:18 PM EDT
Armytek Predator v2.5, IIRC. I'm pretty sure they make brighter / more efficient variants now. Seems like every year lights keep getting better. I haven't dug into it much, but I do know there is a v3 now and a Predator Pro as well. I've had zero issues with the light. No complaints. They are designed in Canada IIRC.
Link Posted: 5/30/2019 4:41:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jekbrown:
Armytek Predator v2.5, IIRC. I'm pretty sure they make brighter / more efficient variants now. Seems like every year lights keep getting better. I haven't dug into it much, but I do know there is a v3 now and a Predator Pro as well. I've had zero issues with the light. No complaints. They are designed in Canada IIRC.
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Nice! I'll be looking into these later.
Link Posted: 5/30/2019 5:11:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/30/2019 5:13:34 PM EDT by doty_soty]
The X95 has superior ergos, but the SAR is the overall better rifle, at least to me. I love my SAR despite not shooting it very much, and have no desire to get an X95. Every time people complain about the X95 shooting wild, I think to myself ‘man that sucks, my SAR actually outshoots probably half my ARs’. Now...a SBR (micro) X95, that’s kinda hot and I wouldn’t mind picking one up one day.
Link Posted: 5/30/2019 6:04:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/30/2019 6:06:27 PM EDT by thehun06]
Just cut the SAR's barrel to CTAR specs and P&W a muzzle device...bingo...

However...I would get a X95 to complete my Tavor family. Then the T7 is coming..so that will make things a bit harder on the wallet...once released.
Link Posted: 5/30/2019 7:08:54 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/30/2019 7:34:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By thehun06:
Just cut the SAR's barrel to CTAR specs and P&W a muzzle device...bingo...

However...I would get a X95 to complete my Tavor family. Then the T7 is coming..so that will make things a bit harder on the wallet...once released.
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Same. Any time I think about getting another bull pup, or .308 for that matter, I remember I’m waiting to get both at once with the Tavor 7. I like that they’re not stringing is along with false promises and updates, but would love to hear good news soon.
Link Posted: 5/30/2019 8:00:35 PM EDT
I like em both. I prefer the forward handguard of the sar but I like the mag release and charging handle location better on the x95. I wish the rear of the stock was shaped more like a sop mod or aug stock on both of them that would improve cheek weld but that’s my only gripe with the whole family. Would also be nice if they figured out a way to free float the barrels given they use lightweight barrels.

Oh also the extended buttpad is dumb on the x95 I get why they went that route but it’s nicer with the correct slim one.
Link Posted: 5/31/2019 1:32:12 PM EDT
Another +1 for the sar. I have the G trigger and manticore curved butpad and it is awesome.
Link Posted: 5/31/2019 1:57:25 PM EDT
God how I wish imi would install a gas regulator on the 5.56 version.
Link Posted: 5/31/2019 2:04:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/31/2019 2:06:49 PM EDT by RDTCU]
My ONLY gripe with the SAR vs the X95 is the mag release location. And possibly the slim, non-customiseable grip.

Sure, it may only be an extra second for mag changes but in a match every second counts.

I've shot my RFB in a couple matches and have somewhat perfected the "slap the paddle with the full mag and then cram it in" approach, but the release is on the front of the magwell on the SAR.
Link Posted: 6/2/2019 6:47:44 AM EDT
The SAR is a better gun out of the box.

The x95 is a better gun if you care to equip it as an AR
Link Posted: 6/2/2019 8:30:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Leonitus:
The SAR is a better gun out of the box.

The x95 is a better gun if you care to equip it as an AR
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Well that is why the X95 was created...to mimic M4 controls...
Link Posted: 6/2/2019 8:15:24 PM EDT
Ive owned both, i sold my SAR and later bought an X95, i perfer to have either in 9mm though as they are one of the few affordable 9mm bullpups on the market. One day i may pick up a 9mm SAR just to get the Ratworx can that sits inside the handguard.

Also the discontinuation of the SAR pushed me to the X95.
Link Posted: 6/20/2019 12:22:53 AM EDT
Shot my SAR more today. It was doing easy 1.5” groups or less with the NX8. Some groups at 1” or so with match ammo.

No strange flyers or anything. My X95 shot like I had a gunfire induced epileptic seizure every time I tried getting good groups.
Link Posted: 6/20/2019 11:03:08 AM EDT
SAR for the win. As usual. I think it has to do that the barrel has more support vs the X95s shorter inner chassis...but that is my guess...
Link Posted: 6/20/2019 1:47:59 PM EDT
All I have is an X95 in 9mm. I recently upgraded to the Giessele trigger bow and Super Sabra trigger and it is awesome. It’s quickly becoming a personal favorite.
Link Posted: 6/23/2019 7:04:27 PM EDT
Where do I get the original SAR magazines. They look so cool
Link Posted: 6/23/2019 7:46:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UserTime:
Where do I get the original SAR magazines. They look so cool
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They were just US made IWI branded CAA AR15 mags. The regular ones are made in Israel so technically cause 922r issues in tavors. They are bulky for what they are Pmags or lancers are better.
Link Posted: 6/23/2019 8:31:28 PM EDT
Pic thread?

Link Posted: 6/23/2019 10:02:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UserTime:
Where do I get the original SAR magazines. They look so cool
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They suck. I left one loaded for a while and it started to split.

Message me your address, and I might try to mail it to you (FDE) sometime this week if it's legal where you live; I could use the space in my safe, and refuse to throw away a mag if I can help it.
Link Posted: 7/3/2019 4:56:11 PM EDT
Have the X95 and it’s Ok. Not very accurate
I’ll take my AXR (AUG) over it .
But my go to gun is my Scar16
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