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Posted: 9/7/2004 12:21:54 PM EDT
I purchased a HSGI Gas Mask/Dump mag pouch from none Other than SKD, hahahaha
Anyway this is an excellant pouch It affords one quick access to your mask, Approx 2 seconds faster for me,and can be resecured just as easy after dawning your mask. The kicker is when you remove your mask its a heck of a lot easier to place it back in a top loading pouch rather than a front loading pouch. The HSG rig also works wonderfully for a Dump Pouch. Working out over the weekend I discovered how well it holds its shape as opposed to other rigs, yet its flexible enough to not pound your leg if you fall through a window onto it,  , yes that happened to me on Sunday......AnywayI did find that trimming the plastic edge trim that holds pouch open just a bit allowed me to close the top of the pouch easier. The addition of the built in attachment for a knife sheath in the system behind the large pouch was pure Genious, hats/ K-pots off to these guys!!!! chuck |
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Posted: 9/8/2004 7:59:09 PM EDT
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Nice post eaglecp!
Good feedback and advice on trimming the plastic. Here's a pic for your post  
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Posted: 9/8/2004 9:06:58 PM EDT
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That looks like a sweet piece of gear!
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Posted: 9/8/2004 10:45:53 PM EDT
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Indeed it does
About how many 30 rounders will it hold as a dumper? |
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Posted: 9/9/2004 4:50:48 AM EDT
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A few more pics.
   I want one 
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Posted: 9/9/2004 10:35:22 AM EDT
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Yep, them pics sent me over the edge, I'll be ordering one soon ;)
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Posted: 9/19/2004 5:17:31 AM EDT
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I have one, and I can recommend it for use as a dump pouch, too. There is a zipper built into the lid just for that purpose. Gene's saddle design keeps the pouch in place a lot better than other drop-leg designs I've tried.
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Posted: 9/21/2004 1:56:07 AM EDT
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KKahn, I got rid of my drop-leg dump pouch for exactly the reasons you describe as concerns. Now I have a TT Small modular drop-leg panel with 2x M4 mags, 2x pistol mags, and a SF light in its place. For a dump pouch, I use a Maxpedition RolyPoly on my pistol belt. For the record, I'm 5'11" and about 155lbs soaking wet. That mean's I don't have much meat on my legs to wrap subloads to. This might have been one reason the larger rig didn't suit me well, and it definitely distracted me when running. On the right, I've got another TT Small modular panel with a holster and GPS pouch. -Randy |
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Posted: 9/21/2004 5:16:09 AM EDT
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It does flop around some, however, there are some mitigating circumstances.
First, I don't have anything mounted on the PALS. It would probably fit a single stack mag pouch or some pistol mags nicely, but I don't care for the extra weight on it. It has a small pocket on the rearward facing side which I keep a LULA in. Second, although it does flop some, I don't run marathons with it. It's more of a dash from spot to spot during a class or something like that. Third, there's a removable internal flexible frame that keeps some of the flopping down. I have the MM pouch that the MaxP RP is based on. In my experience it flops quite a bit, and since it has no method to secure the lower part, going prone with it can be a painful affair. |
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Posted: 9/21/2004 9:20:01 AM EDT
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Hi KKahn,
You bring up a very good question. The most common problem with most drop leg rigs is that most folks take the "drop leg" part too literally and run the kit down around their knees. Drop leg rigs were designed to give access to gear that normally wasnt accessible on the belt due to overt body armor. The best way to run drop leg gear is as high up as comfortably possible. This does several things- makes it quicker to access, due to the distance your hand has to travel (typically from off of your primary weapon system), gives you more control and strength as dexterity tends to diminish the further out you have to reach for something, and it stays mounted better when you run, as the weight is now closer to the fulcrum (hip joint) of the pendulum arm (thigh), and thus moves back and forth less. With most leg rigs out there that have two straps, you are limited by the top strap to how far up you can mount it. Since the HSGI diamond mesh support is based on only 1 strap towards the middle, you can get the pouch further up on your leg to just below the belt, which is where we feel is the best location for mounting. That puts the opening right around the same level as pant pockets, which indexes intuitively for everyone. This pouch is definitely larger than some other dump pouches, which is a plus in some instances. The platic flexible frame (removeable) that techbrute mentioned gives if you roll on it, so it'll collapse when it needs to. Just some more info for ya! Hope that helps! Joe |
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Posted: 9/21/2004 9:34:32 AM EDT
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Yeah, I forgot to mention that Gene's saddle design works better than other drop leg design for the reasons that Joe mentioned. I have an HSGI drop holster, as well. Those are the only 2 drop-leg affairs that I use, as everything else is carried higher.
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Posted: 9/21/2004 10:35:38 AM EDT
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Thanks guys for the feedback! I am still undecided though.
SKD: Thanks for the input and I am one that would get accused of wearing a 'Tactical Jock' as I do wear my drop leg holster very high but dropped to clear armor as you mentioned. I guess my issue now is the size one you mentioned. The HSGI dump seems alittle large (gas mask size) compared to say SOE. My thoughts right now are to go with either a HSGI drop leg mag holder (custom ordered to hold one less mag per pocket) and use a TAG type dump pouch with a velcro strap added so it can be rolled up but still being more stable in use than a rollypoly OR to custom order a HSGI dump in a little smaller size. TECHBRUTE: How long is a rolypoly or were are you wearing it that it can flop to a painful area? ANYBODY: The HSGI dump can mount a knife sheath, but the height of the knife appears to negate the whole resond of droping the rig. I am also undecided as to the best carry location for my knife(fullsize). I have never worn a fullsize knife on my combat rig but want to start. Weakside (HSGI drop), LBE strap (handle down), Strong/weak side were it would sat on when in vehicle, on LBE (handle up), or what?????? I have seen at least once someone wearing his (fullsize) knife on the front of his strong size thigh. Looked strange but functional!!!???? |
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Posted: 9/21/2004 10:42:12 AM EDT
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I've worn the MM pouch both on my belt and on my Hellcat. I'm right handed and wear it at the 10:30 location on my body. Both on the belt and on the chest it has managed to flop over a direction it shouldn't. On the chest, it wound up in my armpit or in my gut. On the belt, it has wound up in my gut.
Every time, it's been with only 1 or 2 mags in it. Once you begin to fill it up, it stablizes some. Another thing. I haven't carried a full-size knife in the dump pouch. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 6:20:28 PM EDT
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Hey Guys
All drop leg rigs "flop" some, But after 14 years in the Army I can say that this rig flops Considerably Less than a GI Issue Gas mask Carrier, even if its strapped to your leg. The design that they use allows it to ride tight, but the bungy in the leg strap affords one movement when getting down and picking ones self up. I can actually dump 3 mags into it easily with a gas mask in it, M42 design, I mount a STRIKE Strobe pouch on the front of mine and M8 paper and test kits for NBC testing in the other pocket. If a gas mask is not needed, I dont carry any extra mags in it, cause its for "dumping " spent mags in it. hahahahahah  I have learned there is no perfect gear only close to perfect. If you like it at the store or in the catalog Buy it, however when you load this stuff up with weightand see how it rides, while humping, running, Bushwacking, and riding in a vehical, Now theres the real standard, I can say this, this piece of gear is worth its price! chuck |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 6:26:49 PM EDT
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KKhan,
Looks like you're giving this a lot of thought, which is great to see! If I can make a recommendation, it would be to stick with the standard drop leg magazine pouch. 1st of all, custom orders from HSGI these days will take a long time to process. Let me rephrase that... it will take a LOOOOOOOOONG time to process. 2nd, the excellent bungee retention system will cinch it down nice and tight for you, making it as though it was a 2 mag pouch to begin with. 3rd, should you ever decide you want to carry a mag-cinched assembly, or 2 M14 or AK or FN or whatever mags... you'll regret having spent more, and waited longer for kit that limited you for no significant benefit. Just our $.02! Joe |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 6:28:29 PM EDT
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Joe,
You got any HSGI drop mag pouches in stock in CB? |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 6:31:02 PM EDT
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Negatron- I've got Khaki, and truth be told, you have to hold them up side by side to tell the difference. HSGI ran limited stuff in CB, as one of their sewers had some CB in their inventory... but it wont be a regular color offering. Thanks for asking!
Joe |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 6:34:08 PM EDT
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CB, Khaki, whatever. :D
As long as it's tannish colored. That's probably the color of all my HSGI stuff I already have, anyway. It's the best color to stand out in the hot texas sun in. That "tactical" black crap will have you panting on the ground. OD is fine, but the lighter, the better around here. |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 6:43:09 PM EDT
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techbrute...
 I've come to the horrible realization that we've given you bad information... turns out we do NOT have Khaki in stock, we are waiting for Khaki to arrive. I can give you a time estimate after speaking with HSGI tomorrow morning. Sorry to get your hopes up bro! Should you order with us when it comes in, shipping is on the house. Joe |
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Posted: 9/22/2004 6:44:40 PM EDT
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Right on. Thinking of getting one prior to Gunstock. Don't wanna have to wear my chest rig or vest out there if I don't have to due to the heat.
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Posted: 9/29/2004 4:25:26 PM EDT
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I just got a Maxpedition RollyPolly and am using it as a dump pouch for a shooting package I'm doing and it works just fine, even on the run. Having it only attached at the waist minimizes the mags from being thrown around by your leg like drop leg pouches.
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Posted: 9/29/2004 6:48:17 PM EDT
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techbrute,
Just thought I'd update you that the Khaki Drop Leg Pouches have arrived. Liaison, Great post! The RollyPoly is an excellent piece of kit- we sell tons of them. It is however different than the HSGI Dump Pouch, as the HSGI is more of a dedicated dump pouch that holds more, and holds it more securely, whereas the RollyPoly is more of a use-if-necessary solution to not having a dedicated dump pouch available (usually by choice if the user wants to save space and weight). Both are awesome in their intended roles, but they do have different roles. Our $.02! Joe |
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Posted: 10/2/2004 8:27:24 PM EDT
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Joe, IM sent. |
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