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Posted: 9/21/2005 8:00:22 PM EDT
Looking for a nice reliable shotgun? Want to keep it under $350, can shoot slugs and buckshot, and good overall. Any suggestions are welcome! Thanks.
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 8:35:58 PM EDT
Mossberg 590A1. 8+1 capacity, ghost ring, metal trigger guard, bayonet mount (really)
Very, very reliable.
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 8:50:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/21/2005 8:51:12 PM EDT by Backstop]
I recommend the Mossberg 590DA1,

The DA is double action trigger. I got used to it. Didn't want it, but at the time it was the only way to get the modified choke heavy walled barrel. Their specs may have changed...
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 8:53:24 PM EDT
You can usually pick up a used Remington 870 at a gun show for around $300. I prefer them to the Mossberg. They are a little heavier, but more rugged in my opinion.
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 8:57:43 PM EDT
i was considering either the rem 870, defender or mossberg 500A. What is a good length barrel?
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 9:07:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/21/2005 9:08:20 PM EDT by DarkKnight]
Remington 870 Express.

AFAIK, the express model has a cheaper wood finished stock, and a different metal finish.

They are rather cheap too, around 270 I believe from wally world.
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 9:09:22 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 9:12:33 PM EDT
I just noticed you're in TX...Academy is selling a Mossberg for $135 or so. I was in there just the other day and heard the salesman and customer talking - but I don't know exactly what model it was.
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 9:28:50 PM EDT
I just got a super nice 870 hd off the EE.

6+1 (2-shot extension), speedfeed V pistol grip stock w/ mag carrier buttstock thing,, 18.5" barrel, bead sight.

$310 with shipping.
Link Posted: 9/21/2005 9:49:32 PM EDT
I have used

Remington 870
Mossberg 590
Winchester 1300
Benelli Nova


Any one of these would work well for you, and you should be able to find any of them in your price range.
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 5:45:03 AM EDT
You can go brand new Remington 870 w the plus 2 extention for 350!!!

Why would you want to go with anything else

nuff said

G-shooter
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 5:54:43 AM EDT
Remington 870
or
Mossberg 590
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 6:02:17 AM EDT
I prefer my Winchester 1300 Defender. Cost: $200-225 used, $265 new. Very smooth operating, points well, holds 7+ in the tube with an 18" barrel.

Handle the different models that are out there and see which one points the best for you. Pick a point on a wall and stare at it, throw the gun up into firing position and see which one fits you the best. Do you have to lift your head? Does your thumb hit your nose when you mount the shotgun on your shoulder? Are you comfortable with the position of the controls- specifically the safety position and the location of the slide release button or tab?

Frankly there isn't a huge difference between the big three- Mossberg, Winchester, or Remington. Any one will suffice. Follow the recommendations to pattern the shotgun you purchase. I (shamefully, I must add) didn't do this until recently. It was an eye opening experience. Test the weapon you purchase with the ammunition you intend to use!

Good luck!
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 9:00:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/22/2005 9:01:42 AM EDT by Shooter521]
+1 for the Rem 870. New or used can be had for under $300. I've owned Mossbergs, too, and prefer the Remingtons for their action, ease of detail stripping for maintenance, and variety/availability of upgrades and enhancements. I've seen too many Winchester 1300s go T/U to bet my life on one.

I really like the Saiga-12s, too, but they're probably outside the scope of this discussion.



Link Posted: 9/22/2005 11:02:28 AM EDT
Remington, Winchester, Mossberg, or Ithaca in 18-20 inch with a smoothbore or choke system. They're about the same price (don't know about Ithaca) and they're all good.
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 11:31:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By shotgun:
Remington, Winchester, Mossberg, or Ithaca in 18-20 inch with a smoothbore or choke system. They're about the same price (don't know about Ithaca) and they're all good.



I gotta wonder if there are many new Ithaca's out there - their factory has closed for good.

Took me a month or so to find a guy to install a new barrel on my dad's Mod 37.
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 11:42:25 AM EDT
COACH GUN!
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 12:13:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By g-shooter:
You can go brand new Remington 870 w the plus 2 extention for 350!!!

Why would you want to go with anything else

nuff said

G-shooter


+1

picked up one from the local gun store today for $369 before tax
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 12:16:48 PM EDT
I got a nice Mossberg Maverick 88 off a buddy for $100, no papers. I really want an 870, I am just more comfortable with them, never had a problem with one yet.
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 12:20:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/22/2005 12:22:40 PM EDT by mike103]
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 12:24:46 PM EDT
Has anyone looked at those cheap Chinese Ithaca clones, or the others that come for $135 with ghost ring sights? I've always been tempted to try one of those.
Link Posted: 9/22/2005 1:01:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/22/2005 1:05:47 PM EDT by Shooter521]

Originally Posted By DDiggler:
Has anyone looked at those cheap Chinese Ithaca clones, or the others that come for $135 with ghost ring sights? I've always been tempted to try one of those.



The Ithaca clones are pretty sucky, but the "Model 98" (Rem 870 clone) is halfway decent. The 98 will accept Remington side saddles and buttstocks (but the stock screw is a metric thread pitch), but will not accept Remington fore-ends or barrels b/c the barrel ring is in a different location.



Link Posted: 9/22/2005 2:24:36 PM EDT
thanks guys for all the responses! I just went and kind of played with each of the following:

Winchester Defender 1300: great shotgun, feels great and handles very well. Cheap and supposedly reliable.

Remington 870: Don't know which model variant it was, but slightly heavy and only came with a 20" barrel (too long for my taste), Crisp and comfortable.

Mossberg 500A: Great shotgun! Feels as good as the 1300, and as comfortable as the 870.

The only thing that worried me is that the sales associate who was helping me sounded like he was reading the specs off a sheet of paper. When i asked him a question he would kind of look at me like i'm suppose to know this??? But i'm gonna keep reading and hopefully find one by this weekend. The Dallas Market Hall show is this weekend, hopefully i can find a good and cheap on there. Thanks!
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 11:52:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/23/2005 11:54:17 AM EDT by jollyroger]
I think all of them are decent guns, although I've never shot the 1300.

ETA: Nevermind, I actually have shot the 1300, but it was a hunting gun, not a HD type model.
I kinda liked the "quick pump action" they have.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 12:22:47 PM EDT
Winchester and Mossberg use aluminum in their receivers. Remington uses stamped steel. That would probably account for most of the weight difference you felt.

Trust me that some weight isn't a bad thing if you are shooting buck and slugs!

If you get "into" shotguns then the Remington and Mossberg are good choices, as there are a lot of accessory barrels out there. I recognize you are looking for a defense gun primarily, but if you don't have a lot of weapons and/or $$ then accessory barrels can be important. Verify that accessory barrels are available for the specific model you intend to purchase PRIOR to purchasing the gun if this is important to you. For instance, if you bought a Winchester 1300 defender and wanted a 28" barrel for hunting pheasants you are in trouble. The 1300 defender uses a longer magazine tube than the standard 1300, so accessory barrels won't readily fit. Chokes can be useful for buckshot, something I "discovered" recently (uh...duh) if you want to tailor fit your shotgun to a particular load. If you get a fixed choke barrel you do the opposite- you find the load that fits the shotgun the best.

Oh, and I would recommend you get a full stock shotgun. The pistol grip shotguns are not overly useful. I had a 1200 Defender set up like that and while I loved the mean looks of the thing I couldn't hit squat with it on the range. It was absolutely miserable to shoot with buckshot loads. YMMV.

Best of luck with the coming storm.
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 2:32:15 PM EDT
870 HD $269.99 at the Market Hall gun show in Dallas today. I got mine!
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 2:56:47 PM EDT
i wish the gun shows here had deals like that.
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 5:02:57 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 8:36:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AR15Vern:
870 HD $269.99 at the Market Hall gun show in Dallas today. I got mine!


i saw those today and there was only 1 more left and somebody had purchased it. I was going to get the 870 mariner right beside it but it was $469.
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