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Posted: 2/22/2006 11:14:26 PM EDT
I am curious as to why a barrel chambered in 8mm Mauser for a Garand is not currently available. With the inexpensive price of 8mm Mauser ammo, it seems that there would be a market for such a barrel. The bolt face and enbloc clips are already compatible with 8mm Mauser. All one would need do is rebarrel and set head space. The only potential problem that I can think of would be port pressure. I don't think that it would be a problem though.


Opinions please
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 12:12:27 AM EDT
Blasphemy!

That would be an abomination!

Hey, you wanted opinions.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 1:20:04 AM EDT
Sounds like project for you...
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 1:29:48 AM EDT
And what happens when the cheap surplus ammo runs out? 8mm in an M1?, no thanks.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 2:59:57 AM EDT
The only reason there is an abudance of 8mm is because it is not that popular of a round. Outside of Mausers, what is really chambered for it?

Nobody is going to make an 8mm Garand.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 3:23:54 AM EDT
Hey, I won't rain on your parade. After buying .30-06, and buying 8mm, I wish my M1 was in 8mm too!
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 7:34:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Sniper_Wolfe:
Hey, I won't rain on your parade. After buying .30-06, and buying 8mm, I wish my M1 was in 8mm too!



Except for the slower burning powders causing higher port pressures and bending your oprod, and most if not all easily obtainable and cheap 8mm is corrosive.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 8:43:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By redleg13a:

Originally Posted By Sniper_Wolfe:
Hey, I won't rain on your parade. After buying .30-06, and buying 8mm, I wish my M1 was in 8mm too!



Except for the slower burning powders causing higher port pressures and bending your oprod, and most if not all easily obtainable and cheap 8mm is corrosive.



Both of which can be over come by an adjustable gas plug and proper cleaning. Just remember that all M2 ball amoo was corrosive before about 1952.

I thought that i read somewhere that the 8 mm cases didn;t really fit well in the clips.

I would love to have a garand in 8mm. I still see ammo for $80/1000. If I did this, I would just find some ammo that the rifle liked and buy enough of it to basically shoot out the barrel. Hell $1000 worth of ammo would keep you shooting a long time.

I have read about this being done. I'm sure that you could get a barrel maker to make you one.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 8:44:52 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 10:26:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By colt100:

Originally Posted By redleg13a:

Originally Posted By Sniper_Wolfe:
Hey, I won't rain on your parade. After buying .30-06, and buying 8mm, I wish my M1 was in 8mm too!



Except for the slower burning powders causing higher port pressures and bending your oprod, and most if not all easily obtainable and cheap 8mm is corrosive.



Both of which can be over come by an adjustable gas plug and proper cleaning. Just remember that all M2 ball amoo was corrosive before about 1952.

I thought that i read somewhere that the 8 mm cases didn;t really fit well in the clips.

I would love to have a garand in 8mm. I still see ammo for $80/1000. If I did this, I would just find some ammo that the rifle liked and buy enough of it to basically shoot out the barrel. Hell $1000 worth of ammo would keep you shooting a long time.

I have read about this being done. I'm sure that you could get a barrel maker to make you one.



True, but most people are not going to do this while there is still plenty of M2 Ball available. If M2 disappears and 8mm is still around, it may a more viable option. Personally, I would kind of like one but it's not worth the hassle right now.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 5:09:26 PM EDT
8mm surplus in my Mauser.
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An 8mm Garand?
No thanks.
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 5:14:29 PM EDT
Is 8mm same/shorter length than 30-06, so as to fit in magazine?
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 5:30:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By spartacus2002:
Is 8mm same/shorter length than 30-06, so as to fit in magazine?



more importantly, is the case head the same diameter as 30.06?
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 5:43:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By spartacus2002:
Is 8mm same/shorter length than 30-06, so as to fit in magazine?

more importantly, is the case head the same diameter as 30.06?



Yup on both counts

Link Posted: 2/23/2006 6:50:14 PM EDT
The case head on 8mm Mauser is nearly, if not identical to, 30-06. The cartridge length is shorter than 30-06, but longer than 308WIN.

My experience with surplus 8mm Mauser has been very positive in as far as reliability is concerned. The only surplus 8mm that I have found to have dud problems has been the greek. The greek ammo has about a 20% dud rate. This is actually beneficial for marksmanship training. If you develope a flinch, the greek will reveal it.

So far, I have used Romanian, Yugoslavian, Turk, Greek, and Ecuadoran.

Since I do not have the tools to make a Garand barrel chambered in 8mm Mauser, and none seem to be commercially available, and since there seems to be an irrational bias against them, I suppose that the question is moot.

Link Posted: 2/24/2006 7:05:57 AM EDT
In the late 1980's I handled a well used Garand in 8mm Mauser at one of the Reno shows.

The BBL was factory made and had Hebrew characters stamped on it...
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 9:46:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By operatorerror:
Blasphemy!

That would be an abomination!



You got that right.
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 12:21:39 PM EDT
This is crazy talk.



JR
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 12:31:18 PM EDT
you are going to hell for this thread
Link Posted: 2/24/2006 1:46:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Melvinator2k0:
you are going to hell for this thread



I know...it's like a Bible in Arabic...
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 7:43:18 PM EDT
30-06
8mm Mauser
308Win

Link Posted: 2/25/2006 7:46:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KA3B:
8mm surplus in my Mauser.
bang
click
bang
bang
click
Reload
bang
bang
click
click­
click

Reload
click
bang
b­ang
bang
bang

Reload
clickclick
click
bang
click

An 8mm Garand?
No thanks.




Is your firing pin channel full of cosmoline? My Persian used to do that until I completely disassembled the bolt and cleaned everything out.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 11:15:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By STG77:
Is your firing pin channel full of cosmoline? My Persian used to do that until I completely disassembled the bolt and cleaned everything out.



No, not a thing wrong with my Mauser.
It's the crappy 8mm surplus.
The same thing happens to other Mausers.
I bought a bunch of PMC 8mm factory ammo, never had a problem with it.
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