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Posted: 7/31/2004 1:14:28 PM EST
rather have, an AR15 or an M1Garand?
Link Posted: 7/31/2004 2:00:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/31/2004 2:00:41 PM EST by Gewehr3]
AR-15 easy to shoot, compact, a country a-wash in parts, ammo, and easier for others to use.
Link Posted: 7/31/2004 2:17:24 PM EST
One problem with Garand, which, however has been used by GI's to their advantage.

"PING"

Nuff said???
Link Posted: 7/31/2004 4:04:35 PM EST
Depends on your AO,, Are you in big oprn country were 600-800 yard shots are possible, or are you in a area were you won't be shoting at anything over a 100 yards?

My suggestion is buy both.. The AR can be used against soft targets, and the Garand against hard targets..


nationwide

I like you avatar.. "If I had a million dollars I would get two chicks to double up on me" hehehe
Link Posted: 7/31/2004 4:48:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/31/2004 4:49:08 PM EST by nationwide]

Originally Posted By coltshorty14:
Depends on your AO,, Are you in big oprn country were 600-800 yard shots are possible, or are you in a area were you won't be shoting at anything over a 100 yards?

My suggestion is buy both.. The AR can be used against soft targets, and the Garand against hard targets..

Good idea, I've seen this in movies (ugh!) sling a carbine across your back and carry the Garand

nationwide

I like you avatar.. "If I had a million dollars I would get two chicks to double up on me" hehehe




Yeah, I snapped the frame right as he starts to say "I'll tell you what I'd do with a million dollars!"
Link Posted: 7/31/2004 6:30:01 PM EST
AR15, no question in my mind.
Link Posted: 7/31/2004 6:31:47 PM EST
Don't get me wrong, I like the little black rifle...

but...Gimme the Garand!

Utterly Reliable, AR...not even close!

the ought six kills anything! The .223...well it kills a lot of things. hings.

Garand Wood stock...doubles as a nice boat paddle!...The AR might make a nice paddle too...but there that spring/buffer thingie in there...he

Did I mention that the Garand is utterly reliable?

Link Posted: 7/31/2004 8:16:07 PM EST
I would take a full length AR
Link Posted: 8/1/2004 1:15:17 AM EST
I would take the AR without hesitation. The Garand fans talk about utter reliability, my Colt 6731 has yet to malfunction after anywhere from 4,000-7,000 rounds. It is deadly accurate and with parts/ammo availibilty, it can't be beat.
Link Posted: 8/1/2004 5:12:13 AM EST
Hey!

My AR in 5.56, 30 round mags, light weight, light recoil and quick follow up shots.
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 3:14:41 PM EST
How about an M-1 in .308, with a 20rd. mag. and a modified gas system. Oh wait, that 's an M-1A.
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 4:23:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By ARMLT15:
Hey!

My AR in 5.56, 30 round mags, light weight, light recoil and quick follow up shots.



M1, heavy weight, longer sight radius, moderate recoil and NO NEED FOR FOLLOW UP SHOTS...
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 6:57:21 PM EST
I'm better with an AR.... I'd have to go with it even though 5.56 is not a stopper.

- BUCC_Guy
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 6:59:27 PM EST
AR-15, I am very familier with it, the Garand I am not.
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 7:08:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By dpmmn:
AR-15, I am very familier with it, the Garand I am not.



Same here. The Garand has a legendary reputation for toughness and everything, but I've shot the M16/AR15 a lot. I know how to clean it, shoot it, fix it, and anything else.

Compared to that, I know almost nothing about the M1.
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 7:10:21 PM EST
FAL carbine.
Link Posted: 8/14/2004 11:37:15 PM EST
Depends what kind of SHTF situation. In a LA-riots type deal, AR-15.
In the case someone attacks us "lol" and gets to wyoming i would hole up in the mountains, with ALL of my gear.
In a situation when zombies come, i dont know, whatever kills them better haha.
For any SHTF sit which i would be fighting with other AMericans, ar15 because of ammo availibility.
In a situation where im trying to survive in the mountains alone after whatever the hell happened, m1, because i'd rather shoot my deer and elk with an 06 to feed myself ;)
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 4:02:29 AM EST

Garand if I am staying home, shooting out through my windows, etc. The .30-06 will shoot through car doors, body armor, tree trunks, etc. But it is too heavy to bug out with, especially if you have to get out on foot.

AR15 for bugging out, Garand for bugging in.

Link Posted: 8/15/2004 4:28:46 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 4:37:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/15/2004 4:39:15 AM EST by Grim_Reaper]
My "goto" gun is a Bushy 16" Modular Carbine, and also a SA 1911-A1 for back-up...I like my chances with either...
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 4:40:01 AM EST
If I could only have one it would be a 20" AR.
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 11:06:28 AM EST
AR15
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 11:33:45 AM EST
I'd also take the AR, if for no other reason than I've never shot the Garand. If I could carry it, I'd also take the Savage .308 for those longer shots. Hell, for the closer shots, I'd be happy with a 30-30 lever action.



Link Posted: 8/15/2004 11:39:22 AM EST
AR, cauze I can maintain, repair and build them easy.

I still love my Garand though.

Danny
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 12:04:53 PM EST
Garand! Got About 2,400 rounds of ball ammo. All of my 223 is target stuff.
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 1:55:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/15/2004 2:05:52 PM EST by rjroberts]
Given only the two choices, I'd go with AR15. Ready parts, easy to maintain, somewhat less "tricky." My personal choice, not in the ones ,is an AR10. Similar familiarity with the 15. The reason I'd go for a 7.62x51 in a SHTF scenario is to be able to carry only one rifle. I would assume either having to move around or, if in a fixed position a limited ability to acquire additional equipment. One to use and maintain. So, I'd have the semi auto capability to deal with several people, as well as the longer range to deal with someone trying to keep me pinned down, or someone with some barricading, cover or armor. While the AR15 would deal handily with the semi part, I would be at a disadvantage if a group were clever - one standing off to keep me pinned down while perhaps only one or two others move in. Instead of having to put one rifle away and get out another, I'd have just one to use and maintain. With a 7.62 I would be able to reach him. Likewise, some light armor or barricading would render the AR15 ineffective. The 7.62 could punch through more. I realize this also would be an argument in favor of the .30-06 of the Garand, but I feel that is outweighed by the fiddling needed. Also, my eyes aren't what they used to be, so it is helpful to be able to attach optics, even if as simple as an Aimpoint.
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 1:59:04 PM EST
AR15/M4 and my M1A
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 3:09:23 PM EST
AR-15 w/ 100-round drums.

How many? The more, the better...
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 3:35:06 PM EST
AR

I can carry way more 5.56 ammo then 30.06
Link Posted: 8/15/2004 4:09:43 PM EST

Originally Posted By AvengeR15:
Garand if I am staying home, shooting out through my windows, etc. The .30-06 will shoot through car doors, body armor, tree trunks, etc. But it is too heavy to bug out with, especially if you have to get out on foot.

AR15 for bugging out, Garand for bugging in.





+1
Link Posted: 8/17/2004 1:06:54 PM EST
Since I live in a urban area, I would take my AK, but sling my FAL for those 300 yd shots.
Link Posted: 8/17/2004 1:21:20 PM EST
ar
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 7:39:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By norman74:
FAL carbine.



+1
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 2:24:32 PM EST
"Originally Posted By norman74:
FAL carbine. "


+2... AK reliability/durability, good accuacy, and 7.62x51 cartridge...


Given the two choices, though - I'd probably take a 20" AR...


- georgestrings
Link Posted: 8/18/2004 2:49:28 PM EST
well since all I have in rifles is a 22 and a garand id take the garand.

It also depends on what kind of SHTF nature diaster or total govermental collapse war zone scenerio.

in the later ill scavange a m16 or something,
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