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Posted: 9/26/2005 4:51:16 AM EDT
Hello,

Does anyone have one already? Report & pics would be highly appreciated!!!
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 5:44:26 AM EDT
Not due to be released until the first quarter of '06'
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 6:32:52 AM EDT
Any pics of the actual civilian version?
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 7:04:00 AM EDT
99% probability it'll look like this, minus the C-more sight.

Link Posted: 9/26/2005 7:32:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/26/2005 7:33:18 AM EDT by Admiral_Crunch]
I wonder why they chose that color. It would look much better gray or black. JMO.
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 7:42:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/26/2005 7:45:30 AM EDT by TheFlyingFinn]
What is that optic thingy I see on the army version pics? Can it be purchased for the civilian version as well? [not the C-more] lol
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 8:30:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheFlyingFinn:
What is that optic thingy I see on the army version pics? Can it be purchased for the civilian version as well? [not the C-more] lol


1.6x optical sight, should be avilable as an accessory.
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 6:26:16 PM EDT
Impact guns that is taking preorders on the FS2000 says if you have waited until now to put in your order it will be 3rd/4th quarter 2006 before you get one and the price is just short of 1,800.00(the list started last december) that really neet scope you talk of is over a thousand dollars..and the one with the built in laser range finder/trajectory compensator is over 3000.00 ouch!
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 7:50:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By osprey21:

Originally Posted By TheFlyingFinn:
What is that optic thingy I see on the army version pics? Can it be purchased for the civilian version as well? [not the C-more] lol


1.6x optical sight, should be avilable as an accessory.




I dunno about that. It's basically a targeting computer and it's worth around $2k I think. I don't know if FN would offer it, figuring poor sales on such an expensive piece of kit. They might though. I'd go with something else, though.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 3:58:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Spade:

Originally Posted By osprey21:

Originally Posted By TheFlyingFinn:
What is that optic thingy I see on the army version pics? Can it be purchased for the civilian version as well? [not the C-more] lol


1.6x optical sight, should be avilable as an accessory.


I dunno about that. It's basically a targeting computer and it's worth around $2k I think. I don't know if FN would offer it, figuring poor sales on such an expensive piece of kit. They might though. I'd go with something else, though.


There are two optical sights, the standard 1.6X low-magnification combat scope (shown on top), and FN's proprietary computerized fire control module with laser rangefinder, that calculates the point of aim and sets the sight reticle for both the rifle and 40mm grenade launcher (shown below)


Link Posted: 9/27/2005 8:23:38 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 11:47:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TalonArms_M:
We had a bunch on order. We were recently told by a rep at FN that we should not hold our breath. What looked like Winter deliveries are now on permanent hold. Apparently, some Middle Eastern country bought the whole production run.



This country bought the US-made civilian FS2000?


-DmL
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 1:54:49 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 6:20:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TalonArms_M:
We had a bunch on order. We were recently told by a rep at FN that we should not hold our breath. What looked like Winter deliveries are now on permanent hold. Apparently, some Middle Eastern country bought the whole production run.



The military production of F-2000's has nothing to do with the FS-2000 program. FNH is still shooting for a Dec. 05 launch.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 7:12:01 AM EDT
What about the civilian Scar thats the one im really interested in!
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 7:43:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fnman:

Originally Posted By TalonArms_M:
We had a bunch on order. We were recently told by a rep at FN that we should not hold our breath. What looked like Winter deliveries are now on permanent hold. Apparently, some Middle Eastern country bought the whole production run.



The military production of F-2000's has nothing to do with the FS-2000 program. FNH is still shooting for a Dec. 05 launch.



Woo Hoo!

oh, crap, now I need $$$
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 8:19:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/28/2005 8:19:56 AM EDT by Ardenner]

Originally Posted By TalonArms_M:

Originally Posted By DmL5:

Originally Posted By TalonArms_M:
We had a bunch on order. We were recently told by a rep at FN that we should not hold our breath. What looked like Winter deliveries are now on permanent hold. Apparently, some Middle Eastern country bought the whole production run.



This country bought the US-made civilian FS2000?


-DmL



No they bought so many full-auto units that FN is delaying production of the rifles for us.



How is that? I was under the impression that the civilian model would be made in the US, and the select fire version would be manufactured in Belgium. So if there are two facilities producing what are two different products (even if they look similar) how can demand at one affect the other?
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 12:37:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Arsenal:
What about the civilian Scar thats the one im really interested in!



Seconded.

But I still want to see how accurate the FS2000 is. I mean, I've got 3 AR variants, and 2 AK variants right now. $1800 for yet another 5.56mm is a bit much.

Now a modern ergonomics ruggedized .308 as in a SCAR-H...that's somthing to hold out for.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 3:31:29 PM EDT
I'll take one of everything.
Link Posted: 9/28/2005 10:53:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ardenner:

Originally Posted By TalonArms_M:

Originally Posted By DmL5:

Originally Posted By TalonArms_M:
We had a bunch on order. We were recently told by a rep at FN that we should not hold our breath. What looked like Winter deliveries are now on permanent hold. Apparently, some Middle Eastern country bought the whole production run.



This country bought the US-made civilian FS2000?


-DmL



No they bought so many full-auto units that FN is delaying production of the rifles for us.



How is that? I was under the impression that the civilian model would be made in the US, and the select fire version would be manufactured in Belgium. So if there are two facilities producing what are two different products (even if they look similar) how can demand at one affect the other?



Just speculating but perhaps the internals aren't that different and all they'd need to do is drop in a happy switch in the civilian version and away they go.
Link Posted: 9/29/2005 6:55:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By lagadelphia:

Originally Posted By Ardenner:

Originally Posted By TalonArms_M:

Originally Posted By DmL5:

Originally Posted By TalonArms_M:
We had a bunch on order. We were recently told by a rep at FN that we should not hold our breath. What looked like Winter deliveries are now on permanent hold. Apparently, some Middle Eastern country bought the whole production run.



This country bought the US-made civilian FS2000?


-DmL



No they bought so many full-auto units that FN is delaying production of the rifles for us.



How is that? I was under the impression that the civilian model would be made in the US, and the select fire version would be manufactured in Belgium. So if there are two facilities producing what are two different products (even if they look similar) how can demand at one affect the other?



Just speculating but perhaps the internals aren't that different and all they'd need to do is drop in a happy switch in the civilian version and away they go.



I suspect the internal are mostly identical, however, that doesn’t change the fact that the civilian rifles are being manufactured in the US for legal reasons - otherwise they would be banned from import. The only thing I could see is that they are manufacturing full auto rifles in the US and then exporting them to the middle east, however, that seems unlikely.
Link Posted: 9/29/2005 4:09:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ardenner:

Originally Posted By lagadelphia:

Originally Posted By Ardenner:

Originally Posted By TalonArms_M:

Originally Posted By DmL5:

Originally Posted By TalonArms_M:
We had a bunch on order. We were recently told by a rep at FN that we should not hold our breath. What looked like Winter deliveries are now on permanent hold. Apparently, some Middle Eastern country bought the whole production run.



This country bought the US-made civilian FS2000?


-DmL



The internals are quite different because the ATF requires that it cannot be made into a machine gun. It will be a US made firearm.
No they bought so many full-auto units that FN is delaying production of the rifles for us.



How is that? I was under the impression that the civilian model would be made in the US, and the select fire version would be manufactured in Belgium. So if there are two facilities producing what are two different products (even if they look similar) how can demand at one affect the other?



Just speculating but perhaps the internals aren't that different and all they'd need to do is drop in a happy switch in the civilian version and away they go.



I suspect the internal are mostly identical, however, that doesn’t change the fact that the civilian rifles are being manufactured in the US for legal reasons - otherwise they would be banned from import. The only thing I could see is that they are manufacturing full auto rifles in the US and then exporting them to the middle east, however, that seems unlikely.

Link Posted: 9/29/2005 4:10:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ardenner:

Originally Posted By lagadelphia:

Originally Posted By Ardenner:

Originally Posted By TalonArms_M:

Originally Posted By DmL5:

Originally Posted By TalonArms_M:
We had a bunch on order. We were recently told by a rep at FN that we should not hold our breath. What looked like Winter deliveries are now on permanent hold. Apparently, some Middle Eastern country bought the whole production run.



This country bought the US-made civilian FS2000?


-DmL




No they bought so many full-auto units that FN is delaying production of the rifles for us.



How is that? I was under the impression that the civilian model would be made in the US, and the select fire version would be manufactured in Belgium. So if there are two facilities producing what are two different products (even if they look similar) how can demand at one affect the other?



Just speculating but perhaps the internals aren't that different and all they'd need to do is drop in a happy switch in the civilian version and away they go.



I suspect the internal are mostly identical, however, that doesn’t change the fact that the civilian rifles are being manufactured in the US for legal reasons - otherwise they would be banned from import. The only thing I could see is that they are manufacturing full auto rifles in the US and then exporting them to the middle east, however, that seems unlikely.



The internals are quite different because the ATF requires that it cannot be made into a machine gun. It will be a US made firearm.
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