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Posted: 9/7/2010 10:19:26 AM EST
To me, one of the absolutely most beautiful C&R rifles in the #4 Enfield (Mk1, Mk1*, and Mk2).  I used to own a fine example of one several years ago, it was a 1942 Longbranch Mk1*.  The stock was mismatched and the rear sight was missing, but some TLC and Walnut stain made the stock like new and Numrich supplied the rear sight.  It had excessive headspace, and I had to carry a stuck casing extractor, but it was accurate.  I used to reload for it with an original Lee Classic Loader, the kind you whack with a mallet.  I killed my first hog with that rifle...  I absolutely loved it.

Unfortunately, back when I was a newly-wed, many moons ago, finances forced me to sell her.  I tripled my money on it, but I regret that sale still today.

So I'm contemplating adding another to my collection.

Please post pics of your #4 Mk 1, 1*, or 2 to aid me in my decision...

Additionally, now I have the funds, but I don't have the time to do the restoration work, like on my first rifle...  anyone know of a source to buy rifles already refinished, or in pristine shape?

TIA,

- AG
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 10:47:28 AM EST
[#1]
Few No.4 Mk. Is are in pristine shape. You'll occasionally find a nice one, or one someone's restored/refinished to look nice, but most are worn.

Mk. 2s are a different story. Look around long enough and you'll find one in basically unissued condition, possibly one still in arsenal wrap. If you're looking for a new rifle, this is what you want.

I prefer the SMLE's blunt bulldog-ugly looks personally, but I do have a lonesome battered Savage No. 4 Mk. I. It's the bottom rifle in the picture.



-Mark
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:59:43 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/9/2010 7:41:46 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:14:50 AM EST
[#6]
Some of mine :-)

The 4 blondes in the middle have only 10 rounds through them and the No5 20 :-)

Link Posted: 9/10/2010 7:50:31 AM EST
[#7]
"To me, one of the absolutely most beautiful C&R rifles is the #4 Enfield (Mk1, Mk1*, and Mk2)." - Helen Keller

Link Posted: 9/10/2010 8:10:36 AM EST
[#8]
Mine is in pretty good overall shape, bore is shiny and it shoots well, made in 1942 I believe. I might use it next year in the deer hunt. It also has some carving on it.  J.F.   M.G, AHRNEM. Paid $150 OTD at local gunshow.
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Link Posted: 9/10/2010 8:24:57 PM EST
[#9]
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Some of mine :-)

The 4 blondes in the middle have only 10 rounds through them and the No5 20 :-)

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs474.ash1/26003_1325072801075_1058547098_971596_4736099_n.jpg


One like those "blondes" is exactly what I am looking for...

- AG
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 4:46:00 AM EST
[#10]
I had a #4Mk1 once.  Buddy of mine got it from me about 20 years ago.  He still has it.  I think I would want a SMLE Mk.1 now.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 8:20:35 AM EST
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My 2 longbranch NO4 MK1* rifles look good from a distance but when you get up close they're kinda rough looking.  Paid $200 each for them from AIM a while back.
Link Posted: 9/12/2010 4:22:10 AM EST
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I bought one of the Irish storage guns long ago for $69. It was in immaculate condition. Packed with grease. After I finally got it cleaned up, it was virtually unfired. Still have it. Don't shoot it as much as I do the No1Mk3
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 8:57:13 PM EST
[#14]
Here's my No4 Mk1.  As former South African ownership, it wears a proper bayonet.  Sure wish I would have picked up one of the new-in-wrap No4 Mk2s when they were still cheap.  The greatest bolt-action military rifle ever designed as far as I'm concerned.




Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:01:42 PM EST
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This was an AIM shooter special No4MkI from a few years ago.  It's a mutt.  Has parts from everywhere.  The barrel was replaced in 1949? and probably never fired after that.  It has the micrometer site and it shoots the 180gr Sierra GK w/RL15 very well.


Never could make heads or tails of the wrist markings other than it was made in 1942.






You owe it to yourself to get a No4MkI and an Ishapore 2A or 2A1





 

 
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:55:25 PM EST
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Gentlemen...  I may have found my prize.  If I end up with it I'll post here!

- AG
Link Posted: 9/16/2010 8:58:46 AM EST
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Well, I am the proud new owner of a ROF, 1951 dated, all matching, No. 4 Mk 2...

I think she is a work of art:














Woohoo!

- AG
Link Posted: 9/16/2010 9:05:12 PM EST
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You did VERY well!

Range report, soon?
Link Posted: 9/17/2010 5:34:10 AM EST
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Quoted:
You did VERY well!

Range report, soon?


Absolutely...
Link Posted: 9/17/2010 11:43:49 AM EST
[#22]
Holy smokes that rifle is beautiful! Where did you score it from?
Link Posted: 9/17/2010 12:06:34 PM EST
[#23]
It's BEAUTIFULLL!!!!

I have a No4 Mk1 1942 Longbranch.  It is in excellent condition for a wartime rifle.  I passed on a No4 Mk2 a couple of years ago.  I'm still kicking myself for it.  It was still in the wrap for $225!  I wish I had that opportunity back.

Have fun with that rifle!

MJ
Link Posted: 9/17/2010 1:24:38 PM EST
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Holy smokes that rifle is beautiful! Where did you score it from?


Gunbroker...  I probably paid too much ($425), but DAMN! She is good looking...

I rationalized it to myself, that a POS one was $250.  A half decent one was $300, and then I wouldn't be happy until I had it re-done by DGR or such, and that ALONE runs $360-$400, and then it would have lost some "historical integrity".

So I saw this almost freaking new rifle for $425 and snapped it up.

- AG
Link Posted: 9/18/2010 2:19:11 AM EST
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You did well.
the #4 Mk2 is the best of the lot.
The trigger is attached to the receiver instead of the trigger guard which makes for a, lighter, crisper trigger pull.
The rear sight is the best of all those used on the Enfields.
The safety is redesigned, more positive and less likely to get out of order.
The barrels are much better quality than the wartime examples which makes for a more accurate rifle.
$425 isn't too much in this day and age.
Link Posted: 9/20/2010 3:17:14 PM EST
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Some of mine :-)

The 4 blondes in the middle have only 10 rounds through them and the No5 20 :-)

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs474.ash1/26003_1325072801075_1058547098_971596_4736099_n.jpg


One like those "blondes" is exactly what I am looking for...

- AG

Having trouble finding it but I saw a gorgeous one on the EE earlier today. Seller said it was purchased as unfired with no wrap and had not fired it since purchase. IIRC price was around $500. Another with a mismatched bolt and refinished is on there for about $200.

Link Posted: 9/21/2010 10:23:15 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/24/2010 5:55:07 PM EST
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/c2eac8ff.jpg


NICE! all correct scopes? I don't know enough to tell with the covers on. Even if not, you've got some money in that collection.
Link Posted: 9/24/2010 7:10:46 PM EST
[#29]
Well, I actually got my hands on her today...  it is even better looking in person.  If it has ever been fired, It sure doesn't show it, and the trigger has to be the finest military 2-stage I've ever encountered.

Can't wait to put some rounds down that virgin bore !
Link Posted: 9/24/2010 7:22:57 PM EST
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Nice score OP.......sweet looking rifle....!!!
Link Posted: 9/24/2010 7:27:15 PM EST
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Quoted:
Well, I actually got my hands on her today...  it is even better looking in person.  If it has ever been fired, It sure doesn't show it, and the trigger has to be the finest military 2-stage I've ever encountered.

Can't wait to put some rounds down that virgin bore !


Cool! I want to get my hands on one truly nice Enfield-all that show up in my area are the same old rifles that I was passing 10 years ago at $89 because they wanted too much. Now they're going for $239.
Link Posted: 9/29/2010 8:12:52 AM EST
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Would it be a crime to refinish my 1943 Enfield No4 Mk1 US Property rifle? It is generally in great shape mechanically, but the blueing is wore in quite a few places and the wood furniture has some dings and scratches and is worn looking.
Link Posted: 9/29/2010 8:38:48 AM EST
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Would it be a crime to refinish my 1943 Enfield No4 Mk1 US Property rifle? It is generally in great shape mechanically, but the blueing is wore in quite a few places and the wood furniture has some dings and scratches and is worn looking.


If you use a finish that's correct for the rifle, and don't try to misrepresent it as all original I see nothing wrong with it. If you Duracoat it in green and tan I won't like the way it looks but it's your rifle and I won't be calling for your head on a plate over it.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 6:11:52 PM EST
[#34]
Alittle late on this post, But.....

OP....That is one FINE rifle you got yourself there!!!!!  Any range reports with her?

Some fine rifles in this thread!!!!!

William
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 9:00:08 AM EST
[#35]
Quoted:
Alittle late on this post, But.....

OP....That is one FINE rifle you got yourself there!!!!!  Any range reports with her?

Some fine rifles in this thread!!!!!

William


I've only shot her once so far, with some PRVI 174 grain ball at 50 yards.  Trigger is unbelievable.  Unlike any milsurp I've ever dealt with.  I was literally touching bullet holes at 50 yards with irons.

I'm pleased as punch.

- AG
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