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Posted: 3/11/2011 6:39:25 PM EST
Or do I even have to worry about 922 stuff with a SBR Coharie clone?

thanks
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 7:03:53 PM EST
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 7:06:52 PM EST
No. SBR's do not have the same 922R parts requirement as non-SBR's.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 7:13:14 PM EST
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 7:32:50 PM EST
Cohaire is an American made gun, no worries to use whatever parts you want. Only have to worry about parts count on imported weapons.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 7:41:52 PM EST
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 10:34:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/11/2011 10:39:04 PM EST by 01SVTSnake]

Originally Posted By GunDisaster:
Cohaire is an American made gun, no worries to use whatever parts you want. Only have to worry about parts count on imported weapons.

While yes its made in America, the gun design still falls under an imported and restricted design. Being domestically produced allows the gun to be used a sear hosts and all that good stuff, but are still subject to 922r since its an imported design and uses imported parts as well as domestic parts


On the topic of US Made stocks, Black Market Parts/Coharie/SW does MFG A3 stocks in the USA. Right now I can only find the 93/53 stocks, but they'll work on a 94 series gun just fine. The rails won't slide closed and lock all the way, but I prefer the extra LOP on the 33/53/93 stock regardless. I bought one of the blem ones and aside from the states blems its a very nice stock. the Cast SS cap is a hair thick, but it fit on my Dakota Tactical D54P (using a sear pack) nice and tight with no lockup. I reamed the push pin holes for the misalignment issue and that took 10 seconds. Email BMP to see when more Mp5 stocks are going to be available or pick up the 33/53/93 stock
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 6:28:54 AM EST
And on the topic of Black Market Parts. Suprisingly, the B&T clone stock that BMP offers has been getting good reviews on hkpro (2 people like it so far, zero dislikes). Seems to be a pretty good copy of the B&T stock, especially for 1/3 of the cost at 85.00 or so. The BMP folds to the right, instead of the left side like the original B&T. After trying a B&T folder (and maybe soon a BMP clone stock), I dont see myself going back to an A3. The folder style is the same size as an A3 when folded and it 1000% more comfortable to shoot with. The A3 wins on looks/coolness factor.

scottMO
Link Posted: 3/12/2011 11:38:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/12/2011 11:39:27 PM EST by SchlaffTablett]
The only reason opinions vary on this is because someone at some point aparently got an opionion letter saying that SBR's must comply with 922r. Until that letter was received, or rather put on the internet, it was generally accepted by everyone that 922r didn't apply to NFA. 3 points to consider.

#1 Opinion letters only apply to the person they were addressed to otherwise they are toilet paper
#2 922r specifically addresses compliance issues of "sporting" firearms
#3 NFA items, by definition, are NONsporting

If you have any questons actually read 922r and the NFA yourself , hell ask a lawyer to read it you'll come to the same conclusion.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 7:51:03 AM EST
Originally Posted By SchlaffTablett:
The only reason opinions vary on this is because someone at some point aparently got an opionion letter saying that SBR's must comply with 922r. Until that letter was received, or rather put on the internet, it was generally accepted by everyone that 922r didn't apply to NFA. 3 points to consider.

#1 Opinion letters only apply to the person they were addressed to otherwise they are toilet paper
#2 922r specifically addresses compliance issues of "sporting" firearms
#3 NFA items, by definition, are NONsporting

If you have any questons actually read 922r and the NFA yourself , hell ask a lawyer to read it you'll come to the same conclusion.


When I SBR'd my M4, I had to submit a form certifying 922 compliance on that weapon. The instructions with the Form stated they would not process the application without it. It's US made so there was no issue. Anyone else had to do that?
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 2:31:55 PM EST
Originally Posted By Spooky574:
Originally Posted By SchlaffTablett:
The only reason opinions vary on this is because someone at some point aparently got an opionion letter saying that SBR's must comply with 922r. Until that letter was received, or rather put on the internet, it was generally accepted by everyone that 922r didn't apply to NFA. 3 points to consider.

#1 Opinion letters only apply to the person they were addressed to otherwise they are toilet paper
#2 922r specifically addresses compliance issues of "sporting" firearms
#3 NFA items, by definition, are NONsporting

If you have any questons actually read 922r and the NFA yourself , hell ask a lawyer to read it you'll come to the same conclusion.


When I SBR'd my M4, I had to submit a form certifying 922 compliance on that weapon. The instructions with the Form stated they would not process the application without it. It's US made so there was no issue. Anyone else had to do that?


I have heard the same thing before. I havent had to do it personally, but you are not the first to mention the "extra" requirement..
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 3:48:04 PM EST
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 3:48:38 PM EST
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 4:13:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By eric10mm:

Originally Posted By scottMO:
Originally Posted By Spooky574:
Originally Posted By SchlaffTablett:
The only reason opinions vary on this is because someone at some point aparently got an opionion letter saying that SBR's must comply with 922r. Until that letter was received, or rather put on the internet, it was generally accepted by everyone that 922r didn't apply to NFA. 3 points to consider.

#1 Opinion letters only apply to the person they were addressed to otherwise they are toilet paper
#2 922r specifically addresses compliance issues of "sporting" firearms
#3 NFA items, by definition, are NONsporting

If you have any questons actually read 922r and the NFA yourself , hell ask a lawyer to read it you'll come to the same conclusion.


When I SBR'd my M4, I had to submit a form certifying 922 compliance on that weapon. The instructions with the Form stated they would not process the application without it. It's US made so there was no issue. Anyone else had to do that?


I have heard the same thing before. I havent had to do it personally, but you are not the first to mention the "extra" requirement..

Never heard of it or been asked to do it.


Personally me either but it's been mentioned in the nfa section before. I just got a Form 1 back in early Jan and nothing extra was mentioned/required..
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 4:37:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/13/2011 4:40:36 PM EST by sparky923]
Originally Posted By Spooky574:
Originally Posted By SchlaffTablett:
The only reason opinions vary on this is because someone at some point aparently got an opionion letter saying that SBR's must comply with 922r. Until that letter was received, or rather put on the internet, it was generally accepted by everyone that 922r didn't apply to NFA. 3 points to consider.

#1 Opinion letters only apply to the person they were addressed to otherwise they are toilet paper
#2 922r specifically addresses compliance issues of "sporting" firearms
#3 NFA items, by definition, are NONsporting

If you have any questons actually read 922r and the NFA yourself , hell ask a lawyer to read it you'll come to the same conclusion.


When I SBR'd my M4, I had to submit a form certifying 922 compliance on that weapon. The instructions with the Form stated they would not process the application without it. It's US made so there was no issue. Anyone else had to do that?


SBR'd an m92 and no questions about 922r.
ETA: Last write up by a lawyer I saw about the issue was in SAR. That lawyer who writes the recurring column. Stated that the receiver was the key. Foreign receiver requires 922r compliance so as not to skirt import law.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:38:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/13/2011 6:44:44 PM EST by bones32]
Gordon at http://www.hkspecialiststore.com has a US made A3 stock, from what I can tell it looks really good. Currently out of stock but there should be some soon.

http://www.hkspecialiststore.com/product_detail.php?Category=44&Page_Number=1&Index_Seq=797
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 10:08:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/13/2011 10:10:15 PM EST by SchlaffTablett]
Spooky, I have never heard of certifying 922(r) compliance and I'd bet dinner that you just had poor reading comprehension. The only CoC form required is the 5330.20 that asks you to certify compliance with 922(g) which is the citizenship requirement. I suppose that something may have changed in the last month since I did my last 5 Form 1's but if it did I'm not aware. If I'm wrong please let me know along with the form number, and source for it. If you did just misread your paperwork it's understandable but when it comes to stuff like this please be sure what you're talking about before posting as this is how internet rumors get started and the reason people end up requesting opinion letters from BATFE.
Link Posted: 3/15/2011 5:17:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By SchlaffTablett:
Spooky, I have never heard of certifying 922(r) compliance and I'd bet dinner that you just had poor reading comprehension. The only CoC form required is the 5330.20 that asks you to certify compliance with 922(g) which is the citizenship requirement. I suppose that something may have changed in the last month since I did my last 5 Form 1's but if it did I'm not aware. If I'm wrong please let me know along with the form number, and source for it. If you did just misread your paperwork it's understandable but when it comes to stuff like this please be sure what you're talking about before posting as this is how internet rumors get started and the reason people end up requesting opinion letters from BATFE.

Exactly.

I've never submitted anything but a 5330.20 - the Certificate of Compliance.
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