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Posted: 11/13/2012 10:21:56 PM EST
It's going to be like Christmas when it get's here on Saturday. I may have a couple of question's for you guys when I start setting it up. I'm hoping the blue kool-aid tastes as good as it looks.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 12:09:05 AM EST
If you haven't already - build or set up a sturdy workbench with a solid top, and screw it to the wall studs if you can. (I take no responsibility for you screwing stuff to walls in an apartment.)

Read everything in here and the archives at Brianenos.com. It'll be fun reading, if you haven't already.

Good luck, welcome to the blue fun.

Link Posted: 11/14/2012 2:30:21 AM EST
It does taste good, I have to admit. Went blue about a month ago. Still use my lee for other stuff, but the dillon cranks out bulk ammo like water.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 3:43:38 AM EST
Congratulations. The cool aid flavor is good. The instructions are very thorough. There are also a lot of videos online. I ran a 650 from '98 until earlier this year when I added a Super 1050. If I did not have a need (want) to process 556 or make 300 BLK out easier then I would not have added the 1050.

The 650 is a great machine. I'll add to the need for a good bench too.

Mike
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 3:56:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/14/2012 3:57:52 AM EST by utiadam]
Nice! The xl650 is my only press and its what I learned on. I recommend doing the fix for the snapping shell plate and the primer tube mod. You can find the primer tube mod at www.uniquetek.com. The snapping shell plate fix is on the Brian Enos forum I think
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 6:03:36 AM EST
Check out my post; Cheap Tips and Tricks For Dillon 550B and XL650s you'll find a lot of useful and free tips to help your 650 perform flawlessly.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 8:39:27 AM EST
I hate kool-aid. Don't much care for kool-aid drinkers either.

Congrats on the new press. The one thing nice about a 650 is it's perfectly tuned from the factory. Then there's that first caliber change and the learning curve kicks in. CoSteve's tips and tricks is a must read, four or five times over. There's also a learning curve to changing the 650 portion of case feeder to rifle from pistol and back again. There's an old Assaultrifler post archived that deals with this. As far as loading pistol goes on a 650 my only advice is good luck keeping anything in house to load. I load with mine at turtle speeds and the cat still hides.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 10:14:23 AM EST
Love the 650 here only mod i made works well http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/118/1153/=k5wfpd http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/118/1153/=k5wh4o You will need 1 bearing and 2 washers.Loading 9mm with n320 the case is almost full,after i installed this mod no powder spillage on the shell plate.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 10:48:57 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/14/2012 10:49:42 AM EST by ScooterInVegas]
Thrust Bearing, good idea, thanks.

No screws in apartment walls. I have a Bridgeport mill in my garage that I'm using the table on now to bolt my RCBS to. Zero wobble or movement. The mill is a little under 3000#.

Thanks for your help and links so far, I'll be reading tonight after work. Scott
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 11:05:48 AM EST
once I sell my 1911 on the EE I will have myself a sip of the blueberry and spring for a 550B
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 11:15:40 AM EST
Originally Posted By will77:
Love the 650 here only mod i made works well http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/118/1153/=k5wfpd http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/118/1153/=k5wh4o You will need 1 bearing and 2 washers.Loading 9mm with n320 the case is almost full,after i installed this mod no powder spillage on the shell plate. http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k481/will771/DSCN1340.jpg



This is trading one problem for another. The rest of the story here is what happens to the ejector wire after being elevated.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 12:02:13 PM EST
Originally Posted By 1911smith:
Originally Posted By will77:
Love the 650 here only mod i made works well http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/118/1153/=k5wfpd http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/118/1153/=k5wh4o You will need 1 bearing and 2 washers.Loading 9mm with n320 the case is almost full,after i installed this mod no powder spillage on the shell plate. http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k481/will771/DSCN1340.jpg



This is trading one problem for another. The rest of the story here is what happens to the ejector wire after being elevated.


This is why I used a teflon coating on the top of my shellplate. Give it a once-over every so often, and I get the best of both worlds
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 12:35:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/14/2012 12:36:17 PM EST by 1911smith]
Teflon works. I've tried the two washer, thrust bearing. We did a pretty lively discussion and a bunch of fanboyz got bent out of shape for no good reason at all. I'm tellin ya. That kool-aid is funny stuff. Anyways, I even had guys sending new ejector wires here for custom bends to accomodate the lift. Still have one here in fact, the prototype version.

Anyways I use a thin mylar washer, paper thin under the shellplate and an all copper thrust washer under the index bolt with copper anti-seize between index bolt and copper washer. Washer OD is same diameter as ejector wire ID allowing ejector wire to lay flat as Dillon intended.

I also trimmed the detente ball spring as CoSteve suggests in his tips and tricks. Index is Astroglide smooth.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 12:36:12 PM EST
Never had a problem with the ejector wire or rounds not wanting to eject in 8,200 round that have been reloaded after the mod. I do grease the bottom of the shell plate every 1,000 rds.The only calib.that gives me problems is 30-06 and it does with or without mod.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 12:37:21 PM EST
What's your rate per minute load rate average ?
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 12:50:41 PM EST
Never timed it i go slow like to look at the powder charge before seating the bullet.A buddy of mine loads all his 40 major ammo on it and he flys with it he's loaded more on it than i have lol same excuse every month need to try it out some more before i by one ya right ,also forgot i clipped a couple coils of the detent spring also.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 12:59:24 PM EST
Originally Posted By 1911smith:

Anyways I use a thin mylar washer, paper thin under the shellplate and an all copper thrust washer under the index bolt with copper anti-seize between index bolt and copper washer. Washer OD is same diameter as ejector wire ID allowing ejector wire to lay flat as Dillon intended.

I also trimmed the detente ball spring as CoSteve suggests in his tips and tricks. Index is Astroglide smooth.


Good idea may have to give that a try.Im always looking for a better way.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 2:05:23 PM EST
Speed is what we found to kill ejector wire after having been lifted. Ejector wire raised worked better with 9mm than .45acp. One look at your wire and I could see where it is tweaked. This should give you some insight why you're having issue with large diameter rifle brass.
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 6:37:07 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/14/2012 7:31:57 PM EST
Originally Posted By ScooterInVegas:
It's going to be like Christmas when it get's here on Saturday. I may have a couple of question's for you guys when I start setting it up. I'm hoping the blue kool-aid tastes as good as it looks.


I received a Dillon S1050 several weeks ago and haven't even unpacked it yet...
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 6:36:55 AM EST
Originally Posted By hrt4me:
Originally Posted By ScooterInVegas:
It's going to be like Christmas when it get's here on Saturday. I may have a couple of question's for you guys when I start setting it up. I'm hoping the blue kool-aid tastes as good as it looks.


I received a Dillon S1050 several weeks ago and haven't even unpacked it yet...


How many does that make ?

Link Posted: 11/15/2012 8:11:38 AM EST
I was considering swapping out my 550 for a 650, but just cant justify the cash outlay right now
Link Posted: 11/15/2012 1:31:28 PM EST
Originally Posted By 1911smith:
Originally Posted By hrt4me:
Originally Posted By ScooterInVegas:
It's going to be like Christmas when it get's here on Saturday. I may have a couple of question's for you guys when I start setting it up. I'm hoping the blue kool-aid tastes as good as it looks.


I received a Dillon S1050 several weeks ago and haven't even unpacked it yet...


How many does that make ?


the first one I'm actually going to keep (I think...)
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 10:44:34 AM EST
Finally got my XL650 yesterday from FedEx. They had it for a week. 1st question, does the white plastic block have to hit the powder measure 100%, or can there be .005-.010 of slack? Im worried about crushing my brass. I have it fine tuned dead nuts on right now, but does it really have to be dead nuts on? Dead nuts ... its a scientific term.
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 12:12:49 PM EST
Originally Posted By ScooterInVegas:
Finally got my XL650 yesterday from FedEx. They had it for a week. 1st question, does the white plastic block have to hit the powder measure 100%, or can there be .005-.010 of slack? Im worried about crushing my brass. I have it fine tuned dead nuts on right now, but does it really have to be dead nuts on? Dead nuts ... its a scientific term.


I had to look at mine to see what you were talking about but mine goes edge to edge and I don't crush my brass. You will probably be fine if you're only talking about a couple thousandths. See how consistent the powder drops are and go from there.
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 5:06:48 PM EST
Congrats on the purchase. Just take your time setting it up and understand how it functions. Before I got mine I read descriptions that the 650 was so complicated and such. I disagree wholeheartedly, I think it' all very straight forward and easy to understand. For example when working up loads simply remove the primer cam and advance the primers by hand. No sense dumping a bunch of unused primers out. Easy - peasy .....

Don't skimp on the primer tubes and the machine can crank out some ammo. You're gonna like it.

Link Posted: 11/22/2012 8:32:46 PM EST
Originally Posted By ScooterInVegas:
Finally got my XL650 yesterday from FedEx. They had it for a week.


Maybe this is why they had it for a week.

Just kidding you.
Link Posted: 11/22/2012 11:04:33 PM EST
I cranked out 300 rounds of 223 today. Works great. I haven't done the tension spring mode yet so I just used my finger to keep the shell plate from jumping when indexing. I'm not going to mess with it till I change the shell plate for a different cal. So far, I love it. It has a very smooth and solid feel.
Link Posted: 11/23/2012 5:18:20 AM EST
Originally Posted By VT_K9:
Congratulations. The cool aid flavor is good. The instructions are very thorough. There are also a lot of videos online. I ran a 650 from '98 until earlier this year when I added a Super 1050. If I did not have a need (want) to process 556 or make 300 BLK out easier then I would not have added the 1050.

The 650 is a great machine. I'll add to the need for a good bench too.

Mike


Noob question...Why do you need the 1050 for 300blk?

Link Posted: 11/23/2012 6:10:44 AM EST
Check out this writeup to correct the shellplate jump issue. It's a simple adjustment.

Link Posted: 11/23/2012 6:28:17 AM EST
It is a simple adjustment, but I don't find fault in his logic either. There's a learning curve going back together the first time that may\maynot be painless depending on tolerences someone may\maynot overlook.
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