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Link Posted: 1/22/2016 10:49:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
I'll say it again, this is the ONLY bullpup I've ever been interested in. I can't afford one anyways, so I'll keep my eyes open and hope it gets sorted out.
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I am HOPING that their manufacturing isn't super slow so that we will see some show up on Gun Broker etc (i.e. that demand doesn't outstrip supply) and that the MRSP will actually lead to a street price of around $1700-$1800 but who knows.
Link Posted: 1/22/2016 12:21:26 PM EDT
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Played with the MDR and talked to the guys at SHOT the other day. They tell me the street price will be $1,700 for the 5.56 and $2,000 for the 308. Haven't shot it but just from handling it I can tell you this thing rocks. Being a lefty it is important to be able to switch ejection easily without having to change bolts. All you have to do is switch ejection covers from one side to the other and you are set.

I will definitely be getting one as I think this puts the Tavor to shame (for many reasons but no time to tell you).
Link Posted: 1/22/2016 2:15:06 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/22/2016 3:14:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MadDogDan:
Played with the MDR and talked to the guys at SHOT the other day. They tell me the street price will be $1,700 for the 5.56 and $2,000 for the 308. Haven't shot it but just from handling it I can tell you this thing rocks. Being a lefty it is important to be able to switch ejection easily without having to change bolts. All you have to do is switch ejection covers from one side to the other and you are set.

I will definitely be getting one as I think this puts the Tavor to shame (for many reasons but no time to tell you).
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Thats great to hear....my lgs wont carry it anyway, so i have to order online regardless...
Link Posted: 1/22/2016 7:10:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mabuz:


I'm assuming you have to go through one of their authorized dealers from the wording in the email regarding pre-orders.

Put you zip in here: http://deserttech.com/html/locate_a_dealer.php

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Originally Posted By Aeneas2020:
I'm hesitant to preorder but does anyone have a list of their "approved" vendors I can't seem to find it. Was just going to have it shipped to my nearest ffl but I'm sure I'll have to drive half way across the country for it now.


I'm assuming you have to go through one of their authorized dealers from the wording in the email regarding pre-orders.

Put you zip in here: http://deserttech.com/html/locate_a_dealer.php

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Lol - 125+ miles.
Nope.
Link Posted: 1/22/2016 7:14:22 PM EDT
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Lol - 125+ miles.
Nope.
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Originally Posted By Mabuz:
Originally Posted By Aeneas2020:
I'm hesitant to preorder but does anyone have a list of their "approved" vendors I can't seem to find it. Was just going to have it shipped to my nearest ffl but I'm sure I'll have to drive half way across the country for it now.


I'm assuming you have to go through one of their authorized dealers from the wording in the email regarding pre-orders.

Put you zip in here: http://deserttech.com/html/locate_a_dealer.php

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Lol - 125+ miles.
Nope.


Closest 3 dealers for me are all in NY which wont be able to even sell the MDR because of the SAFE act. I'd have to drive 155 miles into PA for the next closest one
I think I'll wait.
Link Posted: 1/22/2016 7:49:30 PM EDT
313 miles to a dealer for me, lol.
Link Posted: 1/23/2016 12:08:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By maleante:
313 miles to a dealer for me, lol.
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15 miles, 80, miles, then, 108 miles into the NEIGHBORING COUNTRY, lol....but then again, I could just ask a gun shop owner I know even closer than 15 miles at 13 miles., to become a dealer for them.
Link Posted: 1/23/2016 9:48:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MadDogDan:
Played with the MDR and talked to the guys at SHOT the other day. They tell me the street price will be $1,700 for the 5.56 and $2,000 for the 308. Haven't shot it but just from handling it I can tell you this thing rocks. Being a lefty it is important to be able to switch ejection easily without having to change bolts. All you have to do is switch ejection covers from one side to the other and you are set.

I will definitely be getting one as I think this puts the Tavor to shame (for many reasons but no time to tell you).
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Did it look like their was a place to put a bottom rail on the handguard for a foregrip?
Link Posted: 1/23/2016 9:59:17 AM EDT
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Did it look like their was a place to put a bottom rail on the handguard for a foregrip?
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Originally Posted By Socio:
Originally Posted By MadDogDan:
Played with the MDR and talked to the guys at SHOT the other day. They tell me the street price will be $1,700 for the 5.56 and $2,000 for the 308. Haven't shot it but just from handling it I can tell you this thing rocks. Being a lefty it is important to be able to switch ejection easily without having to change bolts. All you have to do is switch ejection covers from one side to the other and you are set.

I will definitely be getting one as I think this puts the Tavor to shame (for many reasons but no time to tell you).


Did it look like their was a place to put a bottom rail on the handguard for a foregrip?


iirc the handguard is pretty easy to remove and at one point they were saying they were going to be selling other options. I don't see anything on their website about that anymore. Also a shame that they didn't offer longer barrel lengths. Did anyone else hear any more on the group buy thread on the other forum? I signed up to it ages ago but haven't heard a thing.

p.s. also looks like it may have mlok holes in the handguard can anyone confirm?
Link Posted: 1/23/2016 8:49:54 PM EDT
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Did it look like their was a place to put a bottom rail on the handguard for a foregrip?
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Originally Posted By MadDogDan:
Played with the MDR and talked to the guys at SHOT the other day. They tell me the street price will be $1,700 for the 5.56 and $2,000 for the 308. Haven't shot it but just from handling it I can tell you this thing rocks. Being a lefty it is important to be able to switch ejection easily without having to change bolts. All you have to do is switch ejection covers from one side to the other and you are set.

I will definitely be getting one as I think this puts the Tavor to shame (for many reasons but no time to tell you).


Did it look like their was a place to put a bottom rail on the handguard for a foregrip?


Three are M-Lok slots on the bottom.
Link Posted: 1/23/2016 8:52:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Aeneas2020:
iirc the handguard is pretty easy to remove and at one point they were saying they were going to be selling other options. I don't see anything on their website about that anymore. Also a shame that they didn't offer longer barrel lengths. Did anyone else hear any more on the group buy thread on the other forum? I signed up to it ages ago but haven't heard a thing.

p.s. also looks like it may have mlok holes in the handguard can anyone confirm?
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Other barrel lengths will be released, just not now. Until production meets the initial demand all that's offered are two colors (black and FDE) and two calibers (.223 and .308), all with the same barrel length. That keeps things to four unique SKUs that need to be tracked. Depending on how many they can produce per week and what demand is, I don't think I'd get my hopes up for extended barrel lengths until the fall. That's just a SWAG based on bits and pieces DT has said on FB.
Link Posted: 1/24/2016 7:26:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kfeltenberger:


Three are M-Lok slots on the bottom.
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Originally Posted By Socio:
Originally Posted By MadDogDan:
Played with the MDR and talked to the guys at SHOT the other day. They tell me the street price will be $1,700 for the 5.56 and $2,000 for the 308. Haven't shot it but just from handling it I can tell you this thing rocks. Being a lefty it is important to be able to switch ejection easily without having to change bolts. All you have to do is switch ejection covers from one side to the other and you are set.

I will definitely be getting one as I think this puts the Tavor to shame (for many reasons but no time to tell you).


Did it look like their was a place to put a bottom rail on the handguard for a foregrip?


Three are M-Lok slots on the bottom.


Perfect!

All good things come to those who wait, so I think I will save my money and wait until the the MDR is ready.
Link Posted: 1/26/2016 11:35:11 PM EDT
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Some vids are up on Youtube on the MDR at the SHOT show. Here's one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1nKr7_VozU

To be honest... I'm kind of glad it's starting with just 16". I sort of expect some bumps. Since I won't be buying it until a longer .308 BBL is available than 16, that'll give them some time to mature a bit more. At current pace, probably 2017 for me.

Here's another more in-depth with supplier description: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHQz34ox3gk
Link Posted: 1/27/2016 8:36:56 PM EDT
Just got the preorder email. $2249.00

https://www.deserttech.com/html/rifle_builder.php?r=4

Link Posted: 1/27/2016 8:43:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By thanhsayz:
Just got the preorder email. $2249.00

https://www.deserttech.com/html/rifle_builder.php?r=4

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Yeah me too but i'm still waiting to hear something concrete on the group buy over at the bullpup forum! argh
Link Posted: 1/27/2016 11:24:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lazyengineer:
Here's another more in-depth with supplier description: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHQz34ox3gk
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Just an FYI...this video is a year old and was taken at SHOT 2015, not 2016.
Link Posted: 1/28/2016 12:06:57 AM EDT
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Just an FYI...this video is a year old and was taken at SHOT 2015, not 2016.
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Originally Posted By lazyengineer:
Here's another more in-depth with supplier description: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHQz34ox3gk


Just an FYI...this video is a year old and was taken at SHOT 2015, not 2016.


Aw man I didn't catch that. OK, thanks.
Link Posted: 1/31/2016 8:11:02 AM EDT
FYI: There is a good article on the MDR in the latest Recoil magazine issue 23 but does not reveal much we don't already know nevertheless a nice little read.
Link Posted: 1/31/2016 11:28:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Socio:
FYI: There is a good article on the MDR in the latest Recoil magazine issue 23 but does not reveal much we don't already know nevertheless a nice little read.
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The author is a jackass who likes to insult his readers. I truly despise articles written like the author thinks we're in a bar and he's relating the story to me. Very sloppy writing.
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 3:12:08 AM EDT
Talked to a Desert Tech CS REP today. They can not apply the Mil / Leo discount if you have already ordered. The guy said he can cancel the order but there would be a restocking fee then apply the discount to a new order putting you at the bottom of the order list :( . He did not confirm what or how much the discount for Mil / Leo is, but said "it's not really worth it".

THAT"S a huge disappointment. After they talked it up and said they could do it. It went from them saying that it would be 10% to 20%, to not being worth it when taking the restocking fee into account? Sounded like the guy was a little, I don't know how to handle this... in any case. A bummer.

FA
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 10:15:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By FailedAbortion:
Talked to a Desert Tech CS REP today. They can not apply the Mil / Leo discount if you have already ordered. The guy said he can cancel the order but there would be a restocking fee then apply the discount to a new order putting you at the bottom of the order list :( . He did not confirm what or how much the discount for Mil / Leo is, but said "it's not really worth it".

THAT"S a huge disappointment. After they talked it up and said they could do it. It went from them saying that it would be 10% to 20%, to not being worth it when taking the restocking fee into account? Sounded like the guy was a little, I don't know how to handle this... in any case. A bummer.

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That is a bummer if so. For what it's worth last week I emailed them about ordering an MDR through their military discount program and was promptly referred to their 'military program' (?) guy, who has since never written back to my enquiry.

I was really hyped to be selling off my Tavor and buying an MDR for almost the same money. Also, it sketches me out a bit that they say they have these in production yet are (unknown) months from delivery, and have not delivered any for reviewers that I have seen. A lot of people would feel better about plunking 2k+ on a sight unseen rifle if they could at least get a little info about it. Reliability tests, accuracy tests...I've seen two recently stated weights that are a pound off. Maybe I'm being overcritical, and I hope I am, but something in this isn't adding up and it seems that the MDR isn't as ready as they'd like to admit.

Hopefully reviewers start putting out videos saying they've been secretly testing it for a few months, shortly.
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 10:39:07 AM EDT
I got out of the group buy on bullpupforum.

Hoping that the 20% mil/Leo discount they originally advertised will come out sometime this year.

I'm in no hurry though.
Link Posted: 2/2/2016 9:58:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By doty_soty:

That is a bummer if so. For what it's worth last week I emailed them about ordering an MDR through their military discount program and was promptly referred to their 'military program' (?) guy, who has since never written back to my enquiry.

I was really hyped to be selling off my Tavor and buying an MDR for almost the same money. Also, it sketches me out a bit that they say they have these in production yet are (unknown) months from delivery, and have not delivered any for reviewers that I have seen. A lot of people would feel better about plunking 2k+ on a sight unseen rifle if they could at least get a little info about it. Reliability tests, accuracy tests...I've seen two recently stated weights that are a pound off. Maybe I'm being overcritical, and I hope I am, but something in this isn't adding up and it seems that the MDR isn't as ready as they'd like to admit.

Hopefully reviewers start putting out videos saying they've been secretly testing it for a few months, shortly.
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Originally Posted By FailedAbortion:
Talked to a Desert Tech CS REP today. They can not apply the Mil / Leo discount if you have already ordered. The guy said he can cancel the order but there would be a restocking fee then apply the discount to a new order putting you at the bottom of the order list :( . He did not confirm what or how much the discount for Mil / Leo is, but said "it's not really worth it".

THAT"S a huge disappointment. After they talked it up and said they could do it. It went from them saying that it would be 10% to 20%, to not being worth it when taking the restocking fee into account? Sounded like the guy was a little, I don't know how to handle this... in any case. A bummer.

FA

That is a bummer if so. For what it's worth last week I emailed them about ordering an MDR through their military discount program and was promptly referred to their 'military program' (?) guy, who has since never written back to my enquiry.

I was really hyped to be selling off my Tavor and buying an MDR for almost the same money. Also, it sketches me out a bit that they say they have these in production yet are (unknown) months from delivery, and have not delivered any for reviewers that I have seen. A lot of people would feel better about plunking 2k+ on a sight unseen rifle if they could at least get a little info about it. Reliability tests, accuracy tests...I've seen two recently stated weights that are a pound off. Maybe I'm being overcritical, and I hope I am, but something in this isn't adding up and it seems that the MDR isn't as ready as they'd like to admit.

Hopefully reviewers start putting out videos saying they've been secretly testing it for a few months, shortly.


I got the guys number... He never replied to my emails either. I can give you the number, but I'm not sure if the program is actually up and running or for what amount they'll give you off. I was too miffed at the time to ask too many questions, and the guy didn't seem interested in helping me. PM me if you'd like the number, it took me calling about 3 times.

FA


Link Posted: 2/2/2016 11:07:34 PM EDT
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Talked to a Desert Tech CS REP today. They can not apply the Mil / Leo discount if you have already ordered. The guy said he can cancel the order but there would be a restocking fee then apply the discount to a new order putting you at the bottom of the order list :( . He did not confirm what or how much the discount for Mil / Leo is, but said "it's not really worth it".

THAT"S a huge disappointment. After they talked it up and said they could do it. It went from them saying that it would be 10% to 20%, to not being worth it when taking the restocking fee into account? Sounded like the guy was a little, I don't know how to handle this... in any case. A bummer.

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Really? You're upset that they're not giving you a hellishly good discount on a product that will probably have them working around the clock for the next year just to meet the initial demand? They're still offering something, which they don't have to.

I'm amazed at the sense of entitlement I'm seeing when people talk about DT and the MDR; if it isn't a pet feature, color, caliber, or them bending over backwards to release videos of *preproduction* rifles, it's carping about a discount. I'm not trying to single you out, FailedAbortion, rather I'm commenting on the general comments I've seen for the past eight months or so.
Link Posted: 2/3/2016 12:42:50 AM EDT
not knocking dt, but I think the biggest mistake they made was giving that release date. Justs adds to their pressure. I doubt they expected some of the difficulties that I imagine they have experienced. Wonder what the response would be if they released an unfinished product and treated first time buyers like beta testers, cough, mpx, cough
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Really? You're upset that they're not giving you a hellishly good discount on a product that will probably have them working around the clock for the next year just to meet the initial demand? They're still offering something, which they don't have to.

I'm amazed at the sense of entitlement I'm seeing when people talk about DT and the MDR; if it isn't a pet feature, color, caliber, or them bending over backwards to release videos of *preproduction* rifles, it's carping about a discount. I'm not trying to single you out, FailedAbortion, rather I'm commenting on the general comments I've seen for the past eight months or so.
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Originally Posted By FailedAbortion:
Talked to a Desert Tech CS REP today. They can not apply the Mil / Leo discount if you have already ordered. The guy said he can cancel the order but there would be a restocking fee then apply the discount to a new order putting you at the bottom of the order list :( . He did not confirm what or how much the discount for Mil / Leo is, but said "it's not really worth it".

THAT"S a huge disappointment. After they talked it up and said they could do it. It went from them saying that it would be 10% to 20%, to not being worth it when taking the restocking fee into account? Sounded like the guy was a little, I don't know how to handle this... in any case. A bummer.

FA


Really? You're upset that they're not giving you a hellishly good discount on a product that will probably have them working around the clock for the next year just to meet the initial demand? They're still offering something, which they don't have to.

I'm amazed at the sense of entitlement I'm seeing when people talk about DT and the MDR; if it isn't a pet feature, color, caliber, or them bending over backwards to release videos of *preproduction* rifles, it's carping about a discount. I'm not trying to single you out, FailedAbortion, rather I'm commenting on the general comments I've seen for the past eight months or so.


I wouldn't have been bummed if the CS Rep hadn't told me about it when I ordered and that it was possible. I mean the CS Rep gave me the contact info and said this is how you can get a discount. It's not entitlement when they tell you they're going to give you something then they back out. I'm not bad mouthing DT. I didn't cancel my order or demand free stuff. I just followed up on the process they told me to get a discount they were offering me. THE only reason, I posted it on this forum was to let others who are interested in the MDR know about the process. I even offered to help them after being told I can't get the discount.

The discount is still being offered for those that are interested. I do not know what the amount is and the Rep would not confirm the amount on the phone. I don't have and haven't said anything bad about DT or the MDR. While I share your frustrations about a product being trashed and bad mouthed before it even arrives, your approach did single me out.

I hope the MDR is every bit as cool as it looks. For now I am content to wait for my pre-order to arrive... whenever that may be.

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Link Posted: 2/4/2016 6:18:46 PM EDT
Anyone else commit to the group buy?

Money was sent today, really hoping in less than 6 months I'll have it.
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I sent full payment yesterday. All I owe is whatever shipping turns out to be.
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I am really hoping these roll out before July, I'd be the coolest kid at the man's camp out this year if so.

FA
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I am really hoping these roll out before July, I'd be the coolest kid at the man's camp out this year if so.

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They didn't even have a working prototype at SHOT.
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They didn't even have a working prototype at SHOT.
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I am really hoping these roll out before July, I'd be the coolest kid at the man's camp out this year if so.

FA


They didn't even have a working prototype at SHOT.


And then there's that...
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They didn't even have a working prototype at SHOT.
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I am really hoping these roll out before July, I'd be the coolest kid at the man's camp out this year if so.

FA


They didn't even have a working prototype at SHOT.


That's what gets me. They have working prototypes. We've all seen the videos. But they couldn't send even one to SHOT? What the hell?
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They didn't even have a working prototype at SHOT.
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I am really hoping these roll out before July, I'd be the coolest kid at the man's camp out this year if so.

FA


They didn't even have a working prototype at SHOT.


They did have working MDRs there, they just didn't have it where the rank and file media day attendees could drool over it. According to Hank Strange (see his comment in the comments of the video he posted at Full30.com), they took it to the "Tactical Range" for the .mil and .gov folks and that was a "no pictures" and only authorized people only zone.
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I sent full payment yesterday. All I owe is whatever shipping turns out to be.
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Originally Posted By BoxofRox:
Anyone else commit to the group buy?

Money was sent today, really hoping in less than 6 months I'll have it.


I sent full payment yesterday. All I owe is whatever shipping turns out to be.


I'm gonna just do the $1000 now and do the rest when they want to ship. Assuming that's how they want to do it.
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I am really hoping these roll out before July, I'd be the coolest kid at the man's camp out this year if so.

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I'm desperately hoping I get it before fall bear season. That would be the perfect way to christen this rifle.
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I'm desperately hoping I get it before fall bear season. That would be the perfect way to christen this rifle.
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I am really hoping these roll out before July, I'd be the coolest kid at the man's camp out this year if so.

FA


I'm desperately hoping I get it before fall bear season. That would be the perfect way to christen this rifle.


When I spoke with DT's regional rep today at the Great American Outdoor Show, he was adamant that it would be released Q2, barrels and extra conversion kits later in the summer, and up to to other calibers released by the end of the year. When I pressed him about the other calibers, he confirmed that 6.5 Creedmore was already on tap but that the other one was still up in the air.

We had a good long chat for perhaps fifteen or twenty minutes where he answered a lot of questions and dispelled many of the rumors that have been circulating. After handling the MDR and trying the trigger, I'm completely sold on it.
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When I spoke with DT's regional rep today at the Great American Outdoor Show, he was adamant that it would be released Q2, barrels and extra conversion kits later in the summer, and up to to other calibers released by the end of the year. When I pressed him about the other calibers, he confirmed that 6.5 Creedmore was already on tap but that the other one was still up in the air.

We had a good long chat for perhaps fifteen or twenty minutes where he answered a lot of questions and dispelled many of the rumors that have been circulating. After handling the MDR and trying the trigger, I'm completely sold on it.
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Originally Posted By FailedAbortion:
I am really hoping these roll out before July, I'd be the coolest kid at the man's camp out this year if so.

FA


I'm desperately hoping I get it before fall bear season. That would be the perfect way to christen this rifle.


When I spoke with DT's regional rep today at the Great American Outdoor Show, he was adamant that it would be released Q2, barrels and extra conversion kits later in the summer, and up to to other calibers released by the end of the year. When I pressed him about the other calibers, he confirmed that 6.5 Creedmore was already on tap but that the other one was still up in the air.

We had a good long chat for perhaps fifteen or twenty minutes where he answered a lot of questions and dispelled many of the rumors that have been circulating. After handling the MDR and trying the trigger, I'm completely sold on it.


I know this seems like a random question, but did they mention for sure what the gas settings on the gun would be? I'm hoping for an "off" setting for quiet suppressed shooting. I've seen a couple different reports, both with different accounts. I've already committed to buying one, but would love to get a concrete answer on that.
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They did have working MDRs there, they just didn't have it where the rank and file media day attendees could drool over it. According to Hank Strange (see his comment in the comments of the video he posted at Full30.com), they took it to the "Tactical Range" for the .mil and .gov folks and that was a "no pictures" and only authorized people only zone.
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Originally Posted By FailedAbortion:
I am really hoping these roll out before July, I'd be the coolest kid at the man's camp out this year if so.

FA


They didn't even have a working prototype at SHOT.


They did have working MDRs there, they just didn't have it where the rank and file media day attendees could drool over it. According to Hank Strange (see his comment in the comments of the video he posted at Full30.com), they took it to the "Tactical Range" for the .mil and .gov folks and that was a "no pictures" and only authorized people only zone.



If they are not ready to let average joes take a look, then I'm not ready for them to take a look at my average joe money either ;)


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They did have working MDRs there, they just didn't have it where the rank and file media day attendees could drool over it. According to Hank Strange (see his comment in the comments of the video he posted at Full30.com), they took it to the "Tactical Range" for the .mil and .gov folks and that was a "no pictures" and only authorized people only zone.
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Originally Posted By jagdkommando:
Originally Posted By FailedAbortion:
I am really hoping these roll out before July, I'd be the coolest kid at the man's camp out this year if so.

FA


They didn't even have a working prototype at SHOT.


They did have working MDRs there, they just didn't have it where the rank and file media day attendees could drool over it. According to Hank Strange (see his comment in the comments of the video he posted at Full30.com), they took it to the "Tactical Range" for the .mil and .gov folks and that was a "no pictures" and only authorized people only zone.


I find it hard to believe that if a company had a working prototype they didn't have it at SHOT range day like every other company that has working guns. I mean what are they trying to hide? With that said, I am excited about this gun as well and will own the first one I see.
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Have to ask. Who is going to get at the MDR first? Mil.,LEO, or Civilian?
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I know this seems like a random question, but did they mention for sure what the gas settings on the gun would be? I'm hoping for an "off" setting for quiet suppressed shooting. I've seen a couple different reports, both with different accounts. I've already committed to buying one, but would love to get a concrete answer on that.
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Originally Posted By FailedAbortion:
I am really hoping these roll out before July, I'd be the coolest kid at the man's camp out this year if so.

FA


I'm desperately hoping I get it before fall bear season. That would be the perfect way to christen this rifle.


When I spoke with DT's regional rep today at the Great American Outdoor Show, he was adamant that it would be released Q2, barrels and extra conversion kits later in the summer, and up to to other calibers released by the end of the year. When I pressed him about the other calibers, he confirmed that 6.5 Creedmore was already on tap but that the other one was still up in the air.

We had a good long chat for perhaps fifteen or twenty minutes where he answered a lot of questions and dispelled many of the rumors that have been circulating. After handling the MDR and trying the trigger, I'm completely sold on it.


I know this seems like a random question, but did they mention for sure what the gas settings on the gun would be? I'm hoping for an "off" setting for quiet suppressed shooting. I've seen a couple different reports, both with different accounts. I've already committed to buying one, but would love to get a concrete answer on that.


No, I didn't discuss the gas system as it's a non-issue for me; I'm going with an OSS suppressor and it's not something I need to really worry about.
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If they are not ready to let average joes take a look, then I'm not ready for them to take a look at my average joe money either ;)
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Originally Posted By kfeltenberger:
Originally Posted By jagdkommando:
Originally Posted By FailedAbortion:
I am really hoping these roll out before July, I'd be the coolest kid at the man's camp out this year if so.

FA


They didn't even have a working prototype at SHOT.


They did have working MDRs there, they just didn't have it where the rank and file media day attendees could drool over it. According to Hank Strange (see his comment in the comments of the video he posted at Full30.com), they took it to the "Tactical Range" for the .mil and .gov folks and that was a "no pictures" and only authorized people only zone.



If they are not ready to let average joes take a look, then I'm not ready for them to take a look at my average joe money either ;)


It could be that they only had a limited number available and wanted to make sure the .mil and .gov purchasers/users had an unfettered chance to handle them. Think about it...how many people who *aren't* FFL holders, media, or retail purchasers attend SHOT because they know someone or begged their local dealer to get them a pass? I know several people in a group I belong to attend that way. So you have all these people who at best might result in a one or two unit sale monopolizing the few working examples from those that DT is trying to demo it to and who might offer a considerably larger sale.

I would suspect that if they had more finished examples that you would have seen them on the general admission firing line.
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Dunno...but the regional sales manager I spoke with on Monday was adamant that it would be a Q2 general release.
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It could be that they only had a limited number available and wanted to make sure the .mil and .gov purchasers/users had an unfettered chance to handle them. Think about it...how many people who *aren't* FFL holders, media, or retail purchasers attend SHOT because they know someone or begged their local dealer to get them a pass? I know several people in a group I belong to attend that way. So you have all these people who at best might result in a one or two unit sale monopolizing the few working examples from those that DT is trying to demo it to and who might offer a considerably larger sale.

I would suspect that if they had more finished examples that you would have seen them on the general admission firing line.
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I'm with you on this... They didn't need to have any Demo guns at range day, THEY'VE hosted range days for the DMR. Not having a "working prototype" at Range Day when they are in the process of producing the rifles doesn't bother me. I think it's like the guy above said. IT makes way more since to put on a private demo for Mil & LEO contracts and get at some of that sweet contract money then offering up demos for folks to play with.

FA
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When I spoke with DT's regional rep today at the Great American Outdoor Show, he was adamant that it would be released Q2, barrels and extra conversion kits later in the summer, and up to to other calibers released by the end of the year. When I pressed him about the other calibers, he confirmed that 6.5 Creedmore was already on tap but that the other one was still up in the air.

We had a good long chat for perhaps fifteen or twenty minutes where he answered a lot of questions and dispelled many of the rumors that have been circulating. After handling the MDR and trying the trigger, I'm completely sold on it.
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Originally Posted By BoxofRox:
Originally Posted By FailedAbortion:
I am really hoping these roll out before July, I'd be the coolest kid at the man's camp out this year if so.

FA


I'm desperately hoping I get it before fall bear season. That would be the perfect way to christen this rifle.


When I spoke with DT's regional rep today at the Great American Outdoor Show, he was adamant that it would be released Q2, barrels and extra conversion kits later in the summer, and up to to other calibers released by the end of the year. When I pressed him about the other calibers, he confirmed that 6.5 Creedmore was already on tap but that the other one was still up in the air.

We had a good long chat for perhaps fifteen or twenty minutes where he answered a lot of questions and dispelled many of the rumors that have been circulating. After handling the MDR and trying the trigger, I'm completely sold on it.


I'm committed to buying one as well and have very high hopes for it. Thanks for all the info, I'm anxious to get my hands on one.
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Anybody know what the price will be with an LEO/Mil discount?
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Anybody know what the price will be with an LEO/Mil discount?
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At the moment, it's up in the air what, if any, discount will be offered on the MDR. The program is currently suspended but according to the regional sales manager, they are looking at bringing it back in a more permanent form, though it may not initially cover all products/rifles.
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No, I didn't discuss the gas system as it's a non-issue for me; I'm going with an OSS suppressor and it's not something I need to really worry about.
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Originally Posted By fordkicksass:
Originally Posted By kfeltenberger:
Originally Posted By BoxofRox:
Originally Posted By FailedAbortion:
I am really hoping these roll out before July, I'd be the coolest kid at the man's camp out this year if so.

FA


I'm desperately hoping I get it before fall bear season. That would be the perfect way to christen this rifle.


When I spoke with DT's regional rep today at the Great American Outdoor Show, he was adamant that it would be released Q2, barrels and extra conversion kits later in the summer, and up to to other calibers released by the end of the year. When I pressed him about the other calibers, he confirmed that 6.5 Creedmore was already on tap but that the other one was still up in the air.

We had a good long chat for perhaps fifteen or twenty minutes where he answered a lot of questions and dispelled many of the rumors that have been circulating. After handling the MDR and trying the trigger, I'm completely sold on it.


I know this seems like a random question, but did they mention for sure what the gas settings on the gun would be? I'm hoping for an "off" setting for quiet suppressed shooting. I've seen a couple different reports, both with different accounts. I've already committed to buying one, but would love to get a concrete answer on that.


No, I didn't discuss the gas system as it's a non-issue for me; I'm going with an OSS suppressor and it's not something I need to really worry about.


Nope. You will have plenty of other things to worry about though.
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Originally Posted By BoxofRox:
Anyone else commit to the group buy?

Money was sent today, really hoping in less than 6 months I'll have it.
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Someone saying they had an actual shooting rifle at SHOT doesn't mean much to me. Show us actual 'production' rifles.

Meanwhile, I remain hopeful they'll eventually come clean and sort it so, I'm in for one.
Sent $500 for now on the GB.


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