After fiddling about with the Lee Pro 1000 (I've had enough ) it's time to look at another progressive.

Primarily for 9mm:



and, does the press come with a power thru expander die, or do I have to get that separately?

Thanks for any answers, and further suggestions.

Both RCBS dies will work in the Hornady.  Lee dies work too, but are a bit short and it will seem that the threads will run short.  It should work fine either way.  I'd recommend your RCBS or the Hornady New Dimension.

Press does not come with the Powder-through expander.  I think Hornady lists the box contents on their site, if they don't check Grafs or Midway.  If you have more than just 9MM to load, may as well order a 10 pack of bushings as well (the press comes with 5).

Aarrgghh, Aarrgghh...have both presses. Guess what ? Pro1000 will load more consistent ammunition.

(eta: if you hand prime brass.)

No, No... that's not an exaggeration.

First off,suggest if loading with brand x press, use brand x dies for proper and consistent alignment.

AP is a great press, no progressive press is perfect.

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Assuming that you're going to get a casefeeder for it, you should really consider the Dillon XL650 and casefeeder.

My problem with the Lee was inconsistent priming, inconsistent charge weights and constantly having to adjust the timing of the shell plate.  Now I'm just using it to deprime, size and expand.  I will hand prime or get the Hornady AP.  Not sure yet.

See, I knew if I opened that door 10mmSteve would step right through in true blue form.

I'm chopping on the bit, tempted to drop some dough on a 650 this week end myself.

That said, hopefully after me and the Mad Machinist get done with my AP tomorrow. Hornady's inconsistant oal issue will be solved. Will see.

650 is nice and all but I get a sense of of what your concerns are. Yes, your dies will work. I don't use PXT die on mine and probably won't, what else ?

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If you ditch the priming mechanism and season you're powder drop by running 3lbs of powder thru after washing with dish soap and hot water to remove static, then your issues should be gone.

My Pro1000 was frankly a bitch to break in powder drop, but it drops consistently now. Indexing is really smooth and the best feature of press. But, I never tripped it up with a worthless priming system.

I know it sounds like work and it is. It's not been until recently I would allow myself to spend much on presses. If it weren't for paying for 1911 build parts this week end I'd buy a 650.
Then again I've bought a perfectly good AP too so I need another press like I need a hole in my head.

It's all about justifying the cost/aggravation ratio. I chose AP over 650 because that's what I wanted.

Pro1000 serves me well.

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or, just get the 650

How much does that run exactly?

from brian enos sight:

RFP: (Recommended First Purchase)
$556.95 - Base Price
$62.95 - Dies (sold separately)
$217.95 - Casefeeder
$42.95 - Roller Handle, Aluminum
$44.95 - Strong Mount, (650 only)
$40.95 - Bullet Tray

($123.95 - The three above options are in my Online Store as the "As It Should BE" Upgrade.)
$961.80 – RFP Total (with "BE Upgrade")

Additional options available:
$67.95 - Powder Check System
$41.95 - Low Powder Sensor (redundant with Powder Check System)

NCC: (Nice Caliber Conversion)
$76.95 - Caliber Conversion Kit
$62.95 - Dies
$101.95 - Deluxe Quick-Change Kit (Includes Toolhead, Powder Measure, Powder Die, and Toolhead Stand.)
$241.85 - NCC Total

I just bough a Hornady AP yesterday and I am very pleased. It does not include a powder thru expander die. But they are available AR midwayusa.com and others for $8.99.  Took about two hours to mount, assemble and adjust press. Then loaded 200 45 auto rounds in maybe 45 mins. I was using Hornady new dimension dies and a lee factory crimp die. No problems whatsoever. Overall very happy with my purchase

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I have had the LnL progressive for about a year and love it. It is a great press and priced very reasonably. Works with most dies. As with any progressive press to have to get it set up right. What I really like is the auto indexing and quick change bushings. This absolutely a great press in my opinion. Oh yea forgot to mention. It does not cost a fortune to change to different calibers. I still use a single stage (Redding Big Boss 2 ) for precession loading for my 308 and MK12, I did put a converter on the press allowing me to use the LnL quick change bushings.

My experience as well.  Either RCBS or Hornady dies are good to go in the LNL AP.  Haven't tried Redding but they'll probably work too.

Bingo.  I had to return a set of Lee .40 S&W dies because one of them (seating if I recall correctly) ran out of thread before I could get it far enough down.  For that reason among others, I only use my Lee .38 Special die set on my RCBS Rockchucker.

The reason for this: the Lock-n-Load die bushings raise the die body substantially, relative to the shell plate.  Lee die bodies do not have as much threading as other brands (cost-saving measure?), which limits the adjustment range.

Haven't used the powder-through-expander (PTX) setup so I can't comment on how easy it is to adjust, or how well it works.  I suppose the PTX is great if you want to free up a station for a powder cop die.  Instead, I simply pay careful attention to powder levels, eyeballing each case as it gets to the bullet seating station.  When possible, I use powders with which a double-charge would nearly fill or overflow the case.

I suggest trying things out without the PTX before you rush out and buy the parts.  If your recipes make a double-charge basically impossible (see method above), there's no need for a powder cop die.

This!

I liked the Lock-n-Load die bushings so much that I retrofitted my Rockchucker with the Lock-N-Load Press Conversion Bushing Kit.  It makes single-stage loading MUCH easier, because I can change dies in a matter of seconds, rather than trying my best not to disturb lock rings and having to constantly readjust dies when I change operations.

The cost of parts to load different cartridges turned me off Dillon progressives.  I load 10mm, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP.  There was no way I was going to spend that much on the necessary bits and pieces.  Same reason I didn't get set up with a Dillon 1200B case trimming system for reloading rifle.

I feel exactly the same.

I put the LNL die bushings on my Rock Chucker and love it.

Speed of caliber changes and price of course turned me off the blue cool aid.

I just got my LNL AP, but seems good so far.  I also use Lee 9mm dies (4 die set) and they work fine.