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Posted: 5/13/2013 11:08:59 PM EDT

CCTV News Segment on the Snow Leopard Commando Unit
News segment talks about the unit's training and their 800m obstacle course that members have to go through in order to join the unit.

The Snow Leopard Commando Unit (Abbreviation: SLCU; Simplified Chinese: 雪豹突击队) is a special police unit of the People's Republic of China under the People's Armed Police, tasked with counter-terrorism, riot control, and other special tasks such as anti-hijacking, and bomb disposal. Officially, the SLCU is known as the 3rd Group, 13th Detachment, People's Armed Police Beijing General Corp.

NORINCO CQ-A

Posted: 5/13/2013 11:16:02 PM EDT

[#1]

Including one wit a lower heat shield but missing the lower hand guard.

Pretty highspeed there leather hands.

Posted: 5/13/2013 11:20:41 PM EDT

[#2]

Commando units of many countries use M16/C7/M4 rifles. Jeez, I wonder why?

Posted: 5/13/2013 11:21:18 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Including one wit a lower heat shield but missing the lower hand guard.

Pretty highspeed there leather hands.

Ha no joke. Plus it looks like Trijicon, Leupold, and Nightforce better look out. The Chinese are rocking some seriously badass optics.

Posted: 5/13/2013 11:22:34 PM EDT

[#4]

It's pronounced "Em Fowah" over there.

Posted: 5/13/2013 11:26:20 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
It's pronounced "Em Fowah" over there.

Nicely done

Posted: 5/13/2013 11:35:22 PM EDT

[#6]

Upgraded versions of the Norinco CQ rifle.

Used mainly by Provincial Pilice units; and even used by the paraguayan military.

Posted: 5/14/2013 12:09:47 AM EDT

[#7]

Nice white box B-T

Anyone know what the cheesy looking optic is?

Posted: 5/14/2013 2:35:24 AM EDT

[#8]

....

Posted: 5/14/2013 4:31:54 AM EDT

[#9]

Interesting mix of reverse engineered M-16A1 and M-4 features.

Posted: 5/14/2013 7:39:55 AM EDT

[#10]

Make it easier when the (future) invasion/occupation begins?

Posted: 5/14/2013 7:57:48 AM EDT

[#11]

they are NORINCO made?

Posted: 5/14/2013 7:59:24 AM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
It's pronounced "Em Fowah" over there.

Posted: 5/14/2013 8:00:43 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
they are NORINCO made?

My guess is that they are.

Posted: 5/14/2013 8:23:49 AM EDT

[#14]

Between the magwell grip and the optic it looks like they're only about 25 years behind the times.

Posted: 5/14/2013 1:17:12 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
they are NORINCO made?

I believe so, and the semi auto rifles are imported into Canada. As I remember a member bought one and posted pics. Very interesting.

Posted: 5/14/2013 3:46:49 PM EDT

[#16]

Interesting that they duplicated the Tapco collapsing stock that just about all American makers use.

Posted: 5/14/2013 4:31:53 PM EDT

[#17]

They need a Chinese Larue knock off for that night vision scope.😛

Posted: 5/14/2013 6:11:30 PM EDT

[#18]

Anyone able to identify the optics those guys are using?

Posted: 5/14/2013 8:21:45 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
Anyone able to identify the optics those guys are using?

NCstar baby, hell yeah

Posted: 5/14/2013 8:46:32 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
They need a Chinese Larue knock off for that night vision scope.😛

Rarue?

Posted: 5/14/2013 9:12:47 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
They need a Chinese Larue knock off for that night vision scope.😛

Rarue?

wrong dialect, its pronounced Lawoo

Posted: 5/15/2013 4:21:10 AM EDT

[#22]

Last pic shows the carrier sticking out of the upper and the back end of the carrier is wonky/has a weird downward flaring piece that looks like it wouldn't fit into the buffer tube.

Posted: 5/15/2013 4:47:12 AM EDT

[#23]

I wonder how much of a piece of shit that thing is

Posted: 5/15/2013 5:05:51 AM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:
I wonder how much of a piece of shit that thing is

If it's anything like the Norinco 1911s, then it's probably not a piece of shit at all. It's not like machining an AR is rocket science.

Posted: 5/15/2013 6:24:22 AM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
Last pic shows the carrier sticking out of the upper and the back end of the carrier is wonky/has a weird downward flaring piece that looks like it wouldn't fit into the buffer tube.

Your talking about the forward assist.

Posted: 5/15/2013 7:01:38 AM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:
Last pic shows the carrier sticking out of the upper and the back end of the carrier is wonky/has a weird downward flaring piece that looks like it wouldn't fit into the buffer tube.

That's the back end of the forward assist.

Posted: 5/15/2013 7:05:27 AM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I wonder how much of a piece of shit that thing is

If it's anything like the Norinco 1911s, then it's probably not a piece of shit at all. It's not like machining an AR is rocket science.

Or their M14,SKS and AK variants.

Posted: 5/16/2013 8:50:36 AM EDT

[#28]

Imitation is the greatest form of flattery! Considering how the Chinese have struggled with their indigenous designs this not surprising. For Police work in crowded environments 556 shines!

Posted: 5/16/2013 9:42:25 AM EDT

[#29]

One of our Canadian members got a Chinese M4 clone a few years ago and did a review. The pictures are no longer hosted unfortunately.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/427848_Norinco_M4_Rifle____RANGE_REPORT__OF_SORTS__ON_PAGE_3.html

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/04/15/chinese-cq-m4-being-sold-in-canada/

Posted: 5/16/2013 10:16:43 AM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I wonder how much of a piece of shit that thing is

If it's anything like the Norinco 1911s, then it's probably not a piece of shit at all. It's not like machining an AR is rocket science.

Exactly, Norinco is one of the few chinese manufacturers that is on par with american made. I'd take a norinco 1911 anyday over a Kimber, and their M14s are pretty nice as well.

I would really like to get my hands on some of their sub guns.

Posted: 5/16/2013 10:48:40 AM EDT

[#31]

Wonder if they have ammo there??

Posted: 5/16/2013 12:42:59 PM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:
Commando units of many countries use M16/C7/M4 rifles. Jeez, I wonder why?

This is the truth. Pretty much any special unit that has leeway to choose whatever long arm they want uses an M4 / M16 variant.

I saw this in AFG with Poles, Brits, Germans, Aussies and Kiwis. I am sure there were others, but those were the ones I saw up close.

Posted: 5/16/2013 1:16:44 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Last pic shows the carrier sticking out of the upper and the back end of the carrier is wonky/has a weird downward flaring piece that looks like it wouldn't fit into the buffer tube.

That's the back end of the forward assist.

Every pic of the right side of their rifles shows a round forward assist not the older tear drop type forward assist.

Posted: 5/16/2013 1:19:42 PM EDT

[#34]

These guys look real low speed high drag

Posted: 5/20/2013 9:27:05 AM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:
Anyone able to identify the optics those guys are using?

Probably the shitty toy optics sold at gun shows.

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Posted: 5/22/2013 3:07:24 AM EDT

[#36]

These photos are were purportedly taken by a Chinese Private Military Contractor of other Chinese PMCs protecting Chinese interests in Burma. Chinese businesses own a lot of farm land and many quarries on the Burmese side of the border which are used to fuel the Western Chinese economy.

Police officers from Sichuan province conducting a gun salute for the victims of an earthquake

Some more pictures of the CQ family of rifles.

Posted: 5/22/2013 3:58:44 AM EDT

[#37]

I did not know that Tapco sold to the Chinese.

Posted: 6/5/2013 11:01:22 AM EDT

[#38]

Very interesting. They copy everything it seems. The optic looks kind of interesting thought.

Posted: 6/7/2013 11:35:54 AM EDT

[#39]

Very interesting that CQ rifle version. Wouldn't mind doing a clone of that one. Dig the wing nut scope mount. Ha,ha.

Posted: 6/7/2013 4:53:30 PM EDT

[#40]

I would not be surprised if many of those are made on machinery from the US

Posted: 6/7/2013 8:01:47 PM EDT

[#41]

What's the purpose of the bump on bottom of the stock?
It's not the first time I've seen one, but it's usually on WWII or older guns.

Posted: 6/8/2013 4:59:42 AM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:
Very interesting that CQ rifle version. Wouldn't mind doing a clone of that one. Dig the wing nut scope mount. Ha,ha.

Love that wing nut!

Posted: 6/13/2013 12:06:19 AM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:
Interesting that they duplicated the Tapco collapsing stock that just about all American makers use.

Probably where that sorry ass stock comes from originally...

Posted: 7/3/2013 5:49:33 AM EDT

[#44]

Never mind.

Posted: 7/3/2013 10:09:21 AM EDT

[#45]

Quoted:
I wonder how much of a piece of shit that thing is

Norinco made some pretty high quality stuff for the US market - great AKs, great M14Ss, and some very good Browning .22 copies among others.

Chinese industry doesn't innovate very well, but they are exceptionally good at copying things.

Posted: 7/3/2013 10:43:30 AM EDT

[#46]

It doesn't take great quality to kill someone at under 100 yards.
It is good to have great quality but you can get by with just okay quality to get the job done.
Massive numbers with 2nd tier quality can get a lot done just by sheer numbers.

Posted: 7/5/2013 11:51:28 PM EDT

[#47]

Cant wait to see gds reaction when a pic of a chinese soldier shooting his m4gery with his hand extended to the front of the handguard. Dynamic china man lol.

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