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Posted: 8/19/2017 2:00:34 AM EDT
No clue since the Shockwave sadly is illegal in the land of Texas cause of some old ass BS law. I would love to have one just for the hell of it yet can't because of some BS law.
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Posted: 8/19/2017 3:11:16 AM EDT
Sure, if you can find a semi that never had a stock attached. For it to be legal, the shotgun had to start out never having had a stock, ie pistol grip only.
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Posted: 8/19/2017 7:50:34 AM EDT
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Sure, if you can find a semi that never had a stock attached. For it to be legal, the shotgun had to start out never having had a stock, ie pistol grip only. |
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Posted: 8/19/2017 8:14:42 AM EDT
Mossberg 9200 and stoeger 2000 I believe
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Posted: 8/19/2017 8:32:17 AM EDT
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No clue since the Shockwave sadly is illegal in the land of Texas cause of some old ass BS law. I would love to have one just for the hell of it yet can't because of some BS law. |
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Posted: 8/19/2017 8:34:02 AM EDT
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I was referring to an out-of-the-factory shotgun like the Shockwave, but in semi-auto. How would you get past that long action tube in the stock? It seems most all semi-autos have this. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sure, if you can find a semi that never had a stock attached. For it to be legal, the shotgun had to start out never having had a stock, ie pistol grip only. 
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Posted: 8/19/2017 8:44:24 AM EDT
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No clue since the Shockwave sadly is illegal in the land of Texas cause of some old ass BS law. I would love to have one just for the hell of it yet can't because of some BS law. |
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Posted: 8/19/2017 9:51:35 AM EDT
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No clue since the Shockwave sadly is illegal in the land of Texas cause of some old ass BS law. I would love to have one just for the hell of it yet can't because of some BS law. |
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Posted: 8/19/2017 10:35:56 AM EDT
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I like the Shockwave and Tac-14, but can a semi-auto be built with a birds head grip and 14" barrel? The problem I see is the action tube (or whatever you call it) in the stock of most semi-autos. It doesn't allow for a small handgrip. |
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Posted: 8/19/2017 2:52:46 PM EDT
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The Stoeger M3000 and M3500 do not the spring tube in the stock. You'll not find a factory pistol grip (or a never built receiver) for these so you'd have to go the NFA to build one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I like the Shockwave and Tac-14, but can a semi-auto be built with a birds head grip and 14" barrel? The problem I see is the action tube (or whatever you call it) in the stock of most semi-autos. It doesn't allow for a small handgrip. |
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Posted: 8/19/2017 4:30:37 PM EDT
Would an inertia gun even cycle reliably without the shoulder stock to stop the rearward inertia of the entire gun. I'm brainstorming but I am imaging a 1911 being limp wristed will be the outcome a malfunctioning shotgun in the end.. Maybe I'm wrong as I am only guessing.
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Posted: 8/19/2017 4:47:11 PM EDT
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Would an inertia gun even cycle reliably without the shoulder stock to stop the rearward inertia of the entire gun. I'm brainstorming but I am imaging a 1911 being limp wristed will be the outcome a malfunctioning shotgun in the end.. Maybe I'm wrong as I am only guessing. |
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Posted: 8/19/2017 5:23:47 PM EDT
True that would save some time. I don't have one so I have no idea I was just thinking out loud.
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Posted: 8/19/2017 8:32:15 PM EDT
Something like a Sage Sidewinder with a shockwave grip would be neat.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 8:18:02 AM EDT
This thread got me to looking at my old Saiga 20 gauge. I converted it years ago to a pistol grip and Ace folding stock configuration.
If I had replaced the receiver, got the original trigger guard riveted onto the new receiver, and fabricated a shockwave style bird's head grip for it, it would be amusing. I might have to take some measurements later today. If nothing else, it would make a good movie gun. 
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:49:15 PM EDT
A birds head saiga or vepr would look goofy. I think a good goofy lol
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Posted: 8/22/2017 1:02:59 PM EDT
Sarco has clearance Price virgin Browning A5 receivers. for those wanting a virgin "firearm" a5 receiver host.
Sarco Virgin Browning A5 receivers for "firearm" host |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 6:28:59 PM EDT
A base Browning A5 AUTO in 12- or 20-gauge should do. Inertia driven, no gas to regulate.
Clyde Barrow called the one he chopped down his "Whippet," ... as in "whip it out," which he did from under his overcoat when robbing banks and killing cops. 
Clyde's Whippet sported something like a 12" or 14" barrel, if I recall correctly, possibly shorter. He never complained of reliability issues, ... nor did Bonnie for that matter.  Wicked little bitch, that one. 
Then they died.   
But Clyde's Whippet was still GTG. 
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Posted: 8/22/2017 7:37:31 PM EDT
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A base Browning A5 AUTO in 12- or 20-gauge should do. Inertia driven, no gas to regulate. Clyde Barrow called the one he chopped down his "Whippet," ... as in "whip it out," which he did from under his overcoat when robbing banks and killing cops.
Clyde's Whippet sported something like a 12" or 14" barrel, if I recall correctly, possibly shorter. He never complained of reliability issues, ... nor did Bonnie for that matter. Wicked little bitch, that one.
Then they died.
But Clyde's Whippet was still GTG. |
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Posted: 8/24/2017 12:37:39 PM EDT
I have a 590A1 AOW bought as a virgin receiver from Mossburg.
Everything I've researched shows the same conclusion. Adding a pistol grip to a virgin receiver makes it a AOW. Adding a 'shockwave' grip is not a pistol grip and makes the firearm over 26" making it not a AOW. So for everyone saying 'PGO' or 'just add a pistol grip' is recommending NFA violations. Here is what a non-stock A5 firearm would look like: 
Verus the SBS version: 
I'll take the SBS any day of the week over the 'firearm' abortion.
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Posted: 8/24/2017 7:05:43 PM EDT
That sbs is sexy
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Posted: 8/25/2017 8:46:44 AM EDT
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* * * the SBS version: http://jggunsmith.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/sav_auto_sbs_blued02.jpg I'll take the SBS any day of the week over the 'firearm' abortion. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 10:17:40 AM EDT
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The Stoeger M3000 and M3500 do not the spring tube in the stock. You'll not find a factory pistol grip (or a never built receiver) for these so you'd have to go the NFA to build one. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 3:23:46 PM EDT
Doing some research...
The 1981 sci-fi movie Outland had semi-auto shotguns with sawed off stocks and short barrels. They used Browning 2000s. Outland movie scene from the movie The closest you can get now is a simliar shotgun with an 18 inch barrel, unless Remington or Stoeger will make a "Tac-14"-like semi-auto. eta - one more scene showing the shotguns. Someone mixed in scenes from Alien in the video, but you can see the cool shotguns. |
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Posted: 8/30/2017 8:59:33 AM EDT
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Sarco has clearance Price virgin Browning A5 receivers. for those wanting a virgin "firearm" a5 receiver host. Sarco Virgin Browning A5 receivers for "firearm" host |
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Posted: 8/30/2017 8:59:33 PM EDT
As they are not final finished yet (need sanding and polishing) I suspect they are virgin. A call to Sarco may be worth while.
Can Remington model 11 parts be made to fit?? |
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Posted: 8/30/2017 10:17:04 PM EDT
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As they are not final finished yet (need sanding and polishing) I suspect they are virgin. A call to Sarco may be worth while. Can Remington model 11 parts be made to fit?? |
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