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Link Posted: 10/18/2018 8:08:20 PM EST
Fellow 7.62x39 owners, extra mags are now available in the CZ-USA web store: https://shop.cz-usa.com/ProductDetail/11380_Mag-Cz-Bren-2-762x39-30rd-Clear-Transparent
Link Posted: 10/18/2018 10:38:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GreenSWOave:
Fellow 7.62x39 owners, extra mags are now available in the CZ-USA web store: https://shop.cz-usa.com/ProductDetail/11380_Mag-Cz-Bren-2-762x39-30rd-Clear-Transparent
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Thx. Just snagged 10 of them.
Link Posted: 10/21/2018 12:10:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ar671:
Can anyone who has a Bren 2s in 5.56, confirm if their flash supressor is bored out bigger for the 7.62x39?
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Yes it’s bored out big enough for a 7.62 round.
Link Posted: 10/21/2018 2:24:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 59chevy:

Yes it’s bored out big enough for a 7.62 round.
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Much appreciated
Link Posted: 10/21/2018 2:29:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ar671:

Much appreciated
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The 7.62x39 Bren 2 uses 1/2x28 barrel threads. That gives you an ideal of what CZ did to reduce the barrel weight.
Link Posted: 10/21/2018 5:36:38 PM EST
Did a quick test with my Bren 2 and Scar 16 16" with some MEN 193 ammo


Bren 2 50yds
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Scar 16 16" 50yds
by TX 556Mav, on Flickr
Link Posted: 10/22/2018 2:13:26 AM EST
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Anyone down to trade one of their 8 inch Bren 2s for a b&t apc223?? I can’t seen to find any 8 inches left in wild
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:29:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BoogieMan2:
Anyone down to trade one of their 8 inch Bren 2s for a b&t apc223?? I can’t seen to find any 8 inches left in wild
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Just buy any length you can find for now, and get the conversion barrels later to change length.
Link Posted: 10/24/2018 3:39:31 PM EST
since my first purchase  cz USA vz58 back in 2008, and about a month now my cz Bren 2s
Such a great history the VZ 58 up to now Bren 2s, how they designed  these two fire arms around the 7,62x39 cartridge to fit their needs
Including the magazine...I'm so glad they didnt design it to use AK mags, they didn't do it with their vz58, why would they change now.
Very impressed on how this firearm evolved...probably non like it using the 7.62x39

Link Posted: 11/18/2018 10:36:11 PM EST
I'm sure I missed the boat, but does anyone know someone willing to sell or a dealer where I can get a 9'' or 11'' in 7.62x39?
Link Posted: 11/19/2018 2:01:10 PM EST
Curious to search also, even on gun broker could not find the 7.62x39.  Still the 5.56 floating around but mostly in 14"
But you never know... they might sneak in another shipment, crossing fingers
Link Posted: 11/19/2018 2:06:02 PM EST
Curious on what I can get outa my pistol at 50y/10 shot using a magnified optic
Link Posted: 11/19/2018 2:43:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Smurgeon:
I'm sure I missed the boat, but does anyone know someone willing to sell or a dealer where I can get a 9'' or 11'' in 7.62x39?
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Theyre going to be doing the official release soon.
I cant remember what I saw or who even said it, but they explained the reason for the soft release and stated that there would be changes to the gun in the official release.

Sorry for the vagueness I just cant remember for sure who said it and if it was a video or if I read it, but whatever it was it made me glad that I didnt jump on them right away.
Im pretty sure it was MAC when I think about it, because I think he said he talked to the guys at CZ because he was over there for a tour or something.  Just cant remember if it was a video or Instagram.
Link Posted: 11/19/2018 5:39:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By FullMetalMike:
Theyre going to be doing the official release soon.
I cant remember what I saw or who even said it, but they explained the reason for the soft release and stated that there would be changes to the gun in the official release.

Sorry for the vagueness I just cant remember for sure who said it and if it was a video or if I read it, but whatever it was it made me glad that I didnt jump on them right away.
Im pretty sure it was MAC when I think about it, because I think he said he talked to the guys at CZ because he was over there for a tour or something.  Just cant remember if it was a video or Instagram.
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Originally Posted By FullMetalMike:
Originally Posted By Smurgeon:
I'm sure I missed the boat, but does anyone know someone willing to sell or a dealer where I can get a 9'' or 11'' in 7.62x39?
Theyre going to be doing the official release soon.
I cant remember what I saw or who even said it, but they explained the reason for the soft release and stated that there would be changes to the gun in the official release.

Sorry for the vagueness I just cant remember for sure who said it and if it was a video or if I read it, but whatever it was it made me glad that I didnt jump on them right away.
Im pretty sure it was MAC when I think about it, because I think he said he talked to the guys at CZ because he was over there for a tour or something.  Just cant remember if it was a video or Instagram.
The “Official” release date is end of 2019 per CZ.  This is a problem for those of us that live in States with shitty pending legislation.  Hence why I want it ASAP if I can find one.
Link Posted: 11/19/2018 9:17:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Smurgeon:

The “Official” release date is end of 2019 per CZ.  This is a problem for those of us that live in States with shitty pending legislation.  Hence why I want it ASAP if I can find one.
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Ahh, yeah. Gotcha.
I didnt consider that.
Link Posted: 11/20/2018 5:15:35 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Smurgeon:

The “Official” release date is end of 2019 per CZ.  This is a problem for those of us that live in States with shitty pending legislation.  Hence why I want it ASAP if I can find one.
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if this is true... that's a long wait
Link Posted: 11/20/2018 10:41:39 AM EST
My Form 1 got approved today. Any information on stock availability or 922R compliance floating around yet?
Link Posted: 11/21/2018 12:18:29 PM EST
Only one left!!

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Link Posted: 11/22/2018 9:48:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GreenSWOave:
My Form 1 got approved today. Any information on stock availability or 922R compliance floating around yet?
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May I ask you what Overall length did you use for the application, please?

I'm also going to SBR my Bren 2.

Thanks.
Link Posted: 11/22/2018 10:17:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By beanz2:

May I ask you what Overall length did you use for the application, please?

I'm also going to SBR my Bren 2.

Thanks.
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I used 30.7” oal with 11” for the barrel.
Link Posted: 11/22/2018 11:21:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 59chevy:

I used 30.7” oal with 11” for the barrel.
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Thanks!  I submitted mine at 28.5" OAL with 9" barrel.

The tough part will be waiting for CZ to release the OEM stock...
Link Posted: 11/22/2018 11:25:02 PM EST
Personaly I would rather have the version most like the military version. Never been too happy with “Americanized “ versions of foreign military style rifles. If they really come out at the end of 2019 and they are cool I will get one but for now I’m glad I grabbed one of the closest to true to military issue ones.
Link Posted: 11/23/2018 8:12:47 AM EST
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Originally Posted By TURRICAN:
Personaly I would rather have the version most like the military version. Never been too happy with “Americanized “ versions of foreign military style rifles. If they really come out at the end of 2019 and they are cool I will get one but for now I’m glad I grabbed one of the closest to true to military issue ones.
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Same for me.
Link Posted: 11/23/2018 1:35:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 59chevy:
Did a quick test with my Bren 2 and Scar 16 16" with some MEN 193 ammo

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1940/44566762135_e9d08f1a62_c.jpg
Bren 2 50yds by TX 556Mav, on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1936/45429171772_cf797174df_c.jpg
Scar 16 16" 50yds by TX 556Mav, on Flickr
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Hey, not that it matters for the purposes of comparison here, but you should probably measure your group sizes from
outside hole edge to inside hole edge. That'll give you a "center-to-center" measurement. Just an FYI.
Link Posted: 11/23/2018 6:42:54 PM EST
I’m hoping the Americanized version isn’t going to be weird. CZ has a good track record of giving us good stuff though.

Thinking real hard about a 14” 5.56 as my next gun.
Link Posted: 11/23/2018 11:14:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By beanz2:

Thanks!  I submitted mine at 28.5" OAL with 9" barrel.

The tough part will be waiting for CZ to release the OEM stock...
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I used the same measurements on my Form 1 (9" 7.62)
Link Posted: 11/24/2018 9:56:37 AM EST
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Originally Posted By beanz2:

May I ask you what Overall length did you use for the application, please?

I'm also going to SBR my Bren 2.

Thanks.
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Use the lengths provided in the user's manual. Convert to inches by dividing by 25.4 to convert from mm to inches.



Link Posted: 11/24/2018 2:52:38 PM EST
If anyone has a lead on a 5.56 s2 11” or 14” please pm. Apparently I’ve been living under a rock
Link Posted: 11/24/2018 3:17:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CaribouLou45:
If anyone has a lead on a 5.56 s2 11” or 14” please pm. Apparently I’ve been living under a rock
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Good luck with that.
Link Posted: 11/24/2018 3:58:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CaribouLou45:
If anyone has a lead on a 5.56 s2 11” or 14” please pm. Apparently I’ve been living under a rock
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Those are long gone at the dealer level. Limited release. I was considering buying one but didn't want to drop $1900 on one just to get one now. I'll be patient for prices to stabilize once the large shipments come in 2019.

Your best bet is secondary market. Good luck.
Link Posted: 11/25/2018 10:38:21 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Trpclfvr:
I already have the 11", but still want the 14" version just so I can mount the CZ Bayonet on it. So tempting...
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Link Posted: 11/25/2018 11:40:23 AM EST
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I dig it.
Link Posted: 12/3/2018 3:08:26 AM EST
Late 2019?

Oof that’s a long wait. I was hoping no later than mid 2019.

I’m itching for a 9” 7.62x39 version to throw a Wolverine on, bad.
Link Posted: 12/3/2018 8:37:27 AM EST
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Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER:
Late 2019?

Oof that’s a long wait. I was hoping no later than mid 2019.

I’m itching for a 9” 7.62x39 version to throw a Wolverine on, bad.
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Word. I'm trying to track one down too before this new legislation kicks in July 1
Link Posted: 12/3/2018 12:07:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mk4dubbin:
Word. I'm trying to track one down too before this new legislation kicks in July 1
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Originally Posted By mk4dubbin:
Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER:
Late 2019?

Oof that’s a long wait. I was hoping no later than mid 2019.

I’m itching for a 9” 7.62x39 version to throw a Wolverine on, bad.
Word. I'm trying to track one down too before this new legislation kicks in July 1
Really can't wait for the 308 version. Don't have anything in 308 at the moment.

I assume you mean mean some sort of legislation in Washington? If so, do tell or point me in a way to learn more?
I fly out to Washington state for the summer and may end up moving there in a few years.
Link Posted: 12/3/2018 12:26:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MDStroup:
Really can't wait for the 308 version. Don't have anything in 308 at the moment.

I assume you mean mean some sort of legislation in Washington? If so, do tell or point me in a way to learn more?
I fly out to Washington state for the summer and may end up moving there in a few years.
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Originally Posted By MDStroup:
Originally Posted By mk4dubbin:
Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER:
Late 2019?

Oof that’s a long wait. I was hoping no later than mid 2019.

I’m itching for a 9” 7.62x39 version to throw a Wolverine on, bad.
Word. I'm trying to track one down too before this new legislation kicks in July 1
Really can't wait for the 308 version. Don't have anything in 308 at the moment.

I assume you mean mean some sort of legislation in Washington? If so, do tell or point me in a way to learn more?
I fly out to Washington state for the summer and may end up moving there in a few years.
@mdstroup https://www.kertchenlaw.com/blog/initiative-1639-what-you-need-to-know/
Link Posted: 12/3/2018 4:09:08 PM EST
Since the upper appears very similar, someone please tell me that the action is as smooth as the old version?  Slickest shooter I have felt.

Doc
Link Posted: 12/3/2018 4:47:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mk4dubbin:
Originally Posted By MDStroup:
Originally Posted By mk4dubbin:
Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER:
Late 2019?

Oof that’s a long wait. I was hoping no later than mid 2019.

I’m itching for a 9” 7.62x39 version to throw a Wolverine on, bad.
Word. I'm trying to track one down too before this new legislation kicks in July 1
Really can't wait for the 308 version. Don't have anything in 308 at the moment.

I assume you mean mean some sort of legislation in Washington? If so, do tell or point me in a way to learn more?
I fly out to Washington state for the summer and may end up moving there in a few years.
@mdstroup https://www.kertchenlaw.com/blog/initiative-1639-what-you-need-to-know/
Well fuck!!
Thanks for the link. I wonder how it effects bringing in guns when you visit.
Link Posted: 12/3/2018 6:02:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MDStroup:

Well fuck!!
Thanks for the link. I wonder how it effects bringing in guns when you visit.
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Should be fine. From my understanding it's only on new purchases made after July 1. Which is why I'm trying to find a Bren 2!
Link Posted: 12/4/2018 2:09:43 AM EST
Civilian version Bren 2 is posted up in Instagram by CZ Guns.  The handguard looks replaceable. Nothing else looks obvious.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq7qGa9hko6/
Link Posted: 12/4/2018 8:52:45 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Trpclfvr:
Civilian version Bren 2 is posted up in Instagram by CZ Guns.  The handguard looks replaceable. Nothing else looks obvious.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq7qGa9hko6/
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How does that handguard differ from the "limited release" handguards?
Link Posted: 12/4/2018 10:40:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By mk4dubbin:
How does that handguard differ from the "limited release" handguards?
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Originally Posted By mk4dubbin:
Originally Posted By Trpclfvr:
Civilian version Bren 2 is posted up in Instagram by CZ Guns.  The handguard looks replaceable. Nothing else looks obvious.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq7qGa9hko6/
How does that handguard differ from the "limited release" handguards?
It looks like they took a band saw to the front 5" of the receiver and replaced it with polymer.

I wonder if it has a replaceable grip as well, which we first saw on the Bren BR photos?
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Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms:

Unless they changed the design recently, the replaceable forend is the only difference between the guns already imported (bren 806) and the Bren 2
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An additional difference that can be seen from https://www.czub.cz/en/produkty/semi-auto/cz-bren-2-ms.html is the Bren 2MS does not have the additional weight reduction cuts the first batch of Bren 2S that hit the US market. You can see lack of relief cut in the area behind the case deflector, serial number, and on the other side where CZ Bren 2S is marked.

Also what is interesting is the serial number of the Bren 2MS is in a range that is before the batch of the Bren 2S that came to the US market.  My 11" 7.62x39 version has a serial number in the C5069XX range, while the photo of the Bren 2MS has a serial number in the C470101.
Link Posted: 12/5/2018 1:08:42 PM EST
Interestingly, comparing the receiver designs, the Bren 2 MS is essentially the Bren 2 BR scaled down for the intermediate cartridge.  No lightening cuts present on its upper, forward of receiver bifurcated for replaceable handguard.

https://www.czub.cz/en/produkty/automaticke-zbrane/cz-bren-2-br.html

The QD swivel isn't present on any of the designs though.  Uses 806/807 pattern lower/stock.  Very much a hybridized mutt of the post-805 variations.
Link Posted: 12/5/2018 1:11:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms:

Unless they changed the design recently, the replaceable forend is the only dofference between the guns already imported (bren 806) and the Bren 2
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Does that mean that the Manticore folding stop adapters are coming soon? Come on help us out here, This AR buffer tube shit is embarrassing.
Link Posted: 12/5/2018 1:16:19 PM EST
The Bren in 308!! That is what I want!

Throw on a Allen engineering suppressor and atlas biod with what ever flavor of ffp scope.

Link Posted: 12/5/2018 2:37:18 PM EST
Okay, so what's the deal with the stocks on the Bren 2?

In the pics that I've seen, the stock on the .308 and 7.62x39 versions is different than the one on the 5.56 version.

Is the stock on the .308 and 7.62x39 models an improved/updated version of the one on the 5.56 models? If so, that's what I want on the upcoming "civilian" model.
Link Posted: 12/5/2018 2:39:29 PM EST
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Also, how do we attach rails on the upcoming "civilian" model? M-LOK?
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