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Posted: 8/7/2002 5:03:44 AM EST
Firearms Action Committee - Tucson
P.O. Box 27321
Tucson, Arizona 85726

August 5, 2002

>From the desk of Ken Rineer, President


The sale of Ben Avery to Del Webb

The Arizona Game & Fish Department is considering an offer from Del Webb to
sell off the Ben Avery Range at $100K per acre, or at least portions of it.

To avoid massive crowds of Phoenix-area shooters spoiling their plans, Game
& Fish has scheduled the meeting in Flagstaff.

The meeting will be held at the Woodlands Radisson Hotel, 1175 West Route
66, Flagstaff, AZ at 9am on Friday August 9th.

There's a large agenda and they may want to go into executive session when
they discuss the economic development of Ben Avery Range. (Which in my view
would be a violation of the Open Meeting Law)

What do you need to do?

Be there yourself if you can or at the very least, contact every shooter &
hunter you know in the Flagstaff area so they can go and show up in mass.

Contact for the Arizona Department of Game and Fish is as follows:

2221 W. Greenway Road
Phoenix, Arizona 85023-4399

Information ....................................................(602)

FAX Number (Director's Office) ..................(602) 789-3299

Duane L. Shroufe, Director............................(602) 789-3278
Steve Ferrell, Agency Ombudsman ...............(602) 789-3276

Region I
2878 E. White Mountain Blvd.
Pinetop, Arizona 85935 ................................(928) 367-4281

Region II
3500 S. Lake Mary Rd.
Flagstaff, Arizona 86001-9342.....................(928) 774-5045

Region III
5325 N. Stockton Hill Rd.
Kingman, Arizona 86401-5499 ....................(928) 692-7700

Region IV
9140 E. County 10 1/2 St.
Yuma, Arizona 85365-3596 .........................(928) 342-0091

Region V
555 N. Greasewood
Tucson, Arizona 85745-3612 .......................(520) 628-5376

Region VI
7200 E. University
Mesa, Arizona 85207-6502 ..........................(480) 981-9400
Human Resources Office ...............................(602) 789-3326
Rules Office...................................................(602) 789-3289

Link Posted: 8/9/2002 5:58:22 PM EST
Godamn Del Webb will try to buy the whole fucking state if we let them . I'm sure they never thought of the cost of toxic lead clean up from the zillions of rounds that went down range , the assholes ! I guess they can't get their paws on the BLM land across the street that has been closed off to everyone but hunters for 10 years . They got stopped from buying Young's Farm in Dewey several years ago .And we can stop the bastards again ! They will try anything to make a buck off the backs of Arizonans anyway they can !

Where are my blood pressure meds ...........
Link Posted: 8/10/2002 4:20:55 AM EST
Good news, for the time being. Fish & Game said that the sale to Del Web was a rumor. They have had no intention of selling off the land. But the article also said they were looking to at the price of land in ten years. It should be at 100K an acre by then.

Hmmm. I'll use my special skills to see into the future. 100K an acre. Sold. Good-bye Ben Avery. In the best interest of all concerned we will move the range to a more desolate area.

Gee. I thought it was in a desolate area?

But on another note. I was discussing the possible sale of Ben Avery or part of the land to Del Web with a friend from work. He told me that this also came up at the council meeting on the Navajo Reservation. He spends all of his days off from work on the reservation. He's a Medicine Man. He is not a member of the council. But like most council meetings, they are open to the public. The idea of building a shooting range like Ben Avery on the reservation was thrown around. The first possible site was Chinle. It's basically in the center of Reservation. It also has a shooting range for the Navajo police and hotel accommodations. But a more plausible site would be near Winslow. Also they are in the process of voting on the council members(Tribal Council).

I told him that is a great idea. But that would be a long drive for most people. He asked me how long does it take me to get to Ben Avery or open range. 45 minutes or more. Actually more. The Phoenix, Tempe, Mesa, Glendale, & Peoria areas are growing fast. I live in a rural area and it also growing.

One more thing that he mentioned. He asked if I've ever been to the NRA Whittington Center in Raton, New Mexico? Yes, it's in a desolate area and a very long drive. Good point.

Sounds like a good idea to me. No whinny low life's to complain about the shooting range near their homes. Except for the whinny low life politicians that are not getting any money out of it.

The Navajo Nation does not have a casino. You know a casino would bring in the revenue to build a shooting range. They could build a shooting range like they have at the NRA Whittington Center. Just in case.
Link Posted: 8/11/2002 10:31:47 AM EST
From the AZFS agenda of Aug. 9th meeting

Presenter: Don Winslow, Acting Education Branch Chief. Statewide Shooting Range Project Update. The Commission will be provided a presentation on the status of various statewide shooting range issues and projects. The update addresses decisions or activities since the June 21, 2002, Commission meeting. The Commission may vote to take action on, or provide the Department direction on, items covered in the update. The Commission may vote to discuss matters related to the land exchange for the Bellemont Shooting Range and the economic development of the Ben Avery Shooting Facility in Executive Session pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.03(A)(3) and (7).
Link Posted: 8/11/2002 7:29:02 PM EST
Ben Avery soon will become Anthem south.
Link Posted: 8/12/2002 4:08:55 AM EST
Subj: Decision on Ben Avery Range
Date: 8/11/02 3:51:15 PM US Mountain Standard Time
From: allmark@aznex.net
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;;
Sent from the Internet (Details)

(( ARIZONA – ASR&PA )) The AG&F commission decided against any
parceling out of the Ben Avery Range, at a commission meeting in
Flagstaff. Besides the expected uproar, we have also learned a whole
lot of elected officials and staff use the range. Hopefully this
will serve as a catalyst in not only protecting and preserving Ben
Avery Shooting Facility, and to jump start efforts to open more
ranges throughout the state. You can help. Do the candidates in
your district support the idea of more public ranges? Ask them. Let
us know.
GOT VOTER ID CARD? Family? Friends? If not, you have until Monday
midnight. It's ok to switch parties.

~Amanda Savage

~*~* When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.*~*~
~Thomas Jefferson~
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