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Posted: 6/28/2008 12:34:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/19/2008 5:57:12 AM EDT by dprichard]
I have a German Mauser that was handed down through my family and I am trying to figure out the value of it. I took it into a gun shop last week, but all they could verify was that the serial numbers matched on all parts except for the stock, it isn't an import and it is about 95% as far as the quality of the gun. The stock is the only piece that doesn't have a matching serial number, but they didn't know whether it was an original stock or not. Here are a few pics. I would really appreciate help if figuring out what the value of this gun is. Thank you!!!!

http://www.thinkmusiclessons.com/images/sales/mauser1.jpg

http://www.thinkmusiclessons.com/images/sales/mauser2.jpg

http://www.thinkmusiclessons.com/images/sales/mauser3.jpg

http://www.thinkmusiclessons.com/images/sales/mauser4.jpg


http://www.thinkmusiclessons.com/images/newmauser/mauser1.jpg

http://www.thinkmusiclessons.com/images/newmauser/mauser2.jpg

http://www.thinkmusiclessons.com/images/newmauser/mauser3.jpg

http://www.thinkmusiclessons.com/images/newmauser/mauser4.jpg

http://www.thinkmusiclessons.com/images/newmauser/mauser5.jpg

http://www.thinkmusiclessons.com/images/newmauser/mauser6.jpg

http://www.thinkmusiclessons.com/images/newmauser/mauser7.jpg

http://www.thinkmusiclessons.com/images/newmauser/mauser8.jpg

http://www.thinkmusiclessons.com/images/newmauser/mauser9.jpg

http://www.thinkmusiclessons.com/images/newmauser/mauser10.jpg

http://www.thinkmusiclessons.com/images/newmauser/mauser11.jpg

http://www.thinkmusiclessons.com/images/newmauser/mauser12.jpg

http://www.thinkmusiclessons.com/images/newmauser/mauser13.jpg

http://www.thinkmusiclessons.com/images/newmauser/mauser14.jpg
Link Posted: 6/28/2008 12:45:41 PM EDT
Guns are icky. Send it to me for proper disposal!

Seriously though, thats very nice!
Link Posted: 6/28/2008 1:26:56 PM EDT
Thank you. I have had it in a box in my closet for about 10 years since it was passed down to me. I have always wanted to get it priced out, but ran across it when cleaning out my closet the other day and decided to post it here.
Link Posted: 6/28/2008 3:45:28 PM EDT
What caliber is it?? just an offhand guess, But, I'd think that broomhandle may be worth at least $1500 if all orginial.. Ckeck the Blue Book of Gun Values you can get a copy at a well stocked book store for around $30.00
Link Posted: 6/28/2008 3:52:08 PM EDT
Thank you for your reply. I looked through the book, but can't really narrow it down to the exact one from looking through the book. I am by no means a gun expert.

The bullets that are with it are 7.63
Link Posted: 6/28/2008 3:59:45 PM EDT
Is that an NFA item, with the buttstock holster?
Link Posted: 6/28/2008 4:02:09 PM EDT
What is NFA? The stock is the holster.
Link Posted: 6/28/2008 4:22:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/28/2008 4:24:52 PM EDT by P08]
Not NFA (SBR) specifically exempted look it up in the C&R list. Shine a strong flashlight on the gun and see what color it turns. If it stays blue then it is refinished hot salt. These should be rust blued, which will give off a reddish cast under a strong light. The reason I say this is that the blue looks too dark. Rust blued guns have a duller almost gray blue look to them.

ETA: Do NOT shoot 7.62 Tok in this gun even though it fits. High pressure will damage it. Also make sure you get help if you ever take it apart. There is one piece that can be installed backwards. If it is put in backwards the gun will not fire and you cannot take it back apart. Ask me how I know.
Link Posted: 6/28/2008 5:58:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/28/2008 6:03:49 PM EDT by dprichard]
Wow, that is so friggin kewl. I shined a flashlight on it at an angle and it looks orange rusted. What does that mean?
Link Posted: 6/28/2008 6:30:24 PM EDT
you have a pricey valuable collector piece possibly starting around $2500.00 and going up
Link Posted: 6/28/2008 6:39:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dprichard:
Wow, that is so friggin kewl. I shined a flashlight on it at an angle and it looks orange rusted. What does that mean?


What that means is it has the original finish. As a rust blued finish ages it gets a "patina" of red rust that only shows under a strong white light. This aging will only show on rust blued guns. Hot salt will not show this type of aging. That is a good thing as it will boost the value by thousands maybe? Click here SIMPSONS to get a rough estimate of your guns value. Do keep in mind that Simpson's prices are on the high side.
Link Posted: 6/28/2008 6:53:40 PM EDT
These guys pretty trust worthy? I would be kind of leery sending this off in the mail in case it was lost in the mail or something.

Link Posted: 6/28/2008 7:45:08 PM EDT
Yes they are trustworthy, but I did not mean for you to send it to them. Rather to look and try to identify what model yours is. There were many variations and some bring quite a hefty premium. You can also find Jan Stills web site. His site has some very knowledgeable people on it.
Link Posted: 6/28/2008 8:34:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/28/2008 8:36:16 PM EDT by Dace]

Originally Posted By dprichard:
These guys pretty trust worthy? I would be kind of leery sending this off in the mail in case it was lost in the mail or something.



PO8 is saying to look through th adds and find a gun with a similar configuaration and finish and then judge the value by that.

For instance, this one looks a lot like yours, with the stock, and the stock doesnt match.

www.simpsonltd.com/product_info.php?cPath=156_170&products_id=333&osCsid=2470bb96b4736585fce9a9c842c10305

Its $1,700. So maybe that is the value.

The hard part about these Mauser pistols is that they were made by MANY nations in MANY configurations for MANY years. Germany began manufacturing them in 1896 and China was still manufacturing them up until the 90s. So its incredibly hard to judge the value of one without detailed pictures of proof markings and serial numbers.

I did some quick searches and came up with a good informations source.

1896mauser.com/id.htm
Link Posted: 6/29/2008 3:45:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/29/2008 4:22:30 AM EDT by dprichard]
Wow, thank you great article. Well, things I noticed in the article are that mine does have the:

WAFFENFABRIK
MAUSER
OBERNDORF A/N

On top of the barrel and the side. Also it has the small ring hammer and hole in the safety and the serial falls within the range indicating it is a prewar commercial. It matches every thing in the list for prewar commercial identification.

Prewar Commercial, of two minor variants - around 240,000 made between about 1905 and 1912-14
Link Posted: 6/29/2008 4:21:14 AM EDT
Okay, found a really kewl serial database for these. My serial is 233xxx so, I am thinking from this database it was made in 1914.

Mauser Serial Number Database

Link Posted: 6/29/2008 9:19:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/29/2008 9:20:07 PM EDT by Dace]

Originally Posted By dprichard:
Okay, found a really kewl serial database for these. My serial is 233xxx so, I am thinking from this database it was made in 1914.

Mauser Serial Number Database



So there you go.

You have a pre war commercial C96 Mauser made in 1914. Now start searching the web for similar guns for sale or you can go to your local library (or book store) and look up the blue book value.

Here are a couple websites to search for similar guns.

www.gunbroker.com

www.gunsinternational.com/results.cfm?cid=176

Here is the blue book I was talking about, I dont know if it has Mauser values in it but it should. It has nearly everything else.

www.amazon.com/Blue-Book-Gun-Values-Fjestad/dp/1886768676
Link Posted: 7/2/2008 1:35:58 AM EDT
Guys tha tdon't know what they have or that cannot appreciate it get all the breaks, j/k lol.
Link Posted: 7/5/2008 5:48:11 AM EDT
Looking to sell or trade this gun

Link to ar15 equipment exchange sale
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 6:02:57 AM EDT
Took some new pics and found out some more history about the gun. According to the person I was given the gun by, the gun was "re-blacked" back in the early 80s. They never tried to fire it. They said the guy who redid it was an old timer that did it they way it was originally done. He said he believes the stock is an original, but not matching which is obvious since the serials don't match. Anyways, just thought I would post the rest of what I found out and some more photos.

Thanks for all the help in figuring out some information on this gun.
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 1:12:58 PM EDT
That is a rerally nice pistol......wow.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 5:15:59 AM EDT
Thank you. I actually have it for sale / trade in a couple of spots. I am looking to add a Benelli M4 to my collection.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 9:14:46 AM EDT
1km rear sight leaf, those boys were full of wishful thinking
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 1:22:41 PM EDT

Very nice!
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 1:44:02 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 1:48:21 PM EDT
Actually I have the ammo and the clips. It is in one of the photos (The smaller ones). I didn't know how to load it until pretty recently. I saw a video on Youtube showing one shooting and saw how he loaded it. I am a little leery of shooting a gun as old as this because I obviously don't want to damage it or me.

I appreciate your input Raf. I am already having second thoughts about selling since I have been learning so much about the gun.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 2:00:12 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 2:52:54 PM EDT
Yeah, it isn't about the money. I am not really a gun collector. I see them as tools not trophies. I have more interest in shooting and using a weapon than having it sit in the closet. Don't get me wrong, it is a beautiful gun and I have loved learning the history behind it and respect that history, but at the end of the day it will go back into the shoebox in my closet.

My buddy tells me that if I keep buying more guns, I will eventually grow into a collector and regret it though.
Link Posted: 7/21/2008 3:29:18 PM EDT
Does anyone know how I can tell if the stock is an original. I was told it was an original, but not matching serial. How can I tell?
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 4:00:55 PM EDT
Auction for this gun closes tomorrow morning.

Mauser Broomhandle Auction
Link Posted: 7/22/2008 4:08:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/22/2008 4:24:55 PM EDT by Patmos]
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Originally Posted By dprichard:
Beautiful German Mauser Need Help Figuring out Value of Gun

Originally Posted By dprichard:
Does anyone know how I can tell if the stock is an original. I was told it was an original, but not matching serial. How can I tell?



dprichard: Don't sell herher
P.S. I wouldn't even shoot the pistol.

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www.amazon.com/Luger-Tips-Michael-II-Reese/dp/0913150363/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1216769920&sr=1-12
www.amazon.com/Lugers-Complete-Listing-Different-Variations/dp/B001345X2W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1216771454&sr=1-1
www.amazon.com/Blue-Book-Gun-Values-29th/dp/1886768757/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1216771601&sr=1-1
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