Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
BCM
Member Login

Page / 10
Link Posted: 7/25/2020 11:47:53 AM EST
I'm very interested in those Lvl4 multicurve plates from botach but I can't seem to find them?

https://botach.com/battle-steel-level-iv-10x12-ballistic-plates/  Is this the Level 4 plate that is multicurve, because it says it's only single curve.  

Also that LongFri helmet previously linked ( https://botach.com/longfri-level-iiia-ballistic-helmets/ ) seems like a really good bang-for-buck option as well for only $200!  I was previously considering Galvion Viper A3 however this is much cheaper and only weighs .3 lbs more than the Galvion.
Link Posted: 7/25/2020 11:59:24 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By twistid1:
I'm very interested in those Lvl4 multicurve plates from botach but I can't seem to find them?

https://botach.com/battle-steel-level-iv-10x12-ballistic-plates/  Is this the Level 4 plate that is multicurve, because it says it's only single curve.  

Also that LongFri helmet previously linked ( https://botach.com/longfri-level-iiia-ballistic-helmets/ ) seems like a really good bang-for-buck option as well for only $200!  I was previously considering Galvion Viper A3 however this is much cheaper and only weighs .3 lbs more than the Galvion.
View Quote


Don't know about the plates, but I've ordered one of the LongFri helmets out of curiosity, I'll post a 'first impressions' here when it arrives (hasn't actually shipped yet) if no-one objects.

Tomac
Link Posted: 7/25/2020 12:44:19 PM EST
I have both the Botach level 4 plates and the Longfri helmet and I can say they both seem to be very good quality. The helmet is definitely Kevlar and the padding and suspension system are comfortable.
Link Posted: 7/25/2020 1:02:32 PM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By tatsngats:
I have both the Botach level 4 plates and the Longfri helmet and I can say they both seem to be very good quality. The helmet is definitely Kevlar and the padding and suspension system are comfortable.
View Quote


You ordered the $99 botach plates and they were multicurve?
Link Posted: 7/25/2020 1:55:37 PM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By twistid1:


You ordered the $99 botach plates and they were multicurve?
View Quote


I have and yes they are multi curve.  Fit is very comfortable.
Link Posted: 7/25/2020 4:37:35 PM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By twistid1:


You ordered the $99 botach plates and they were multicurve?
View Quote

Yep
Link Posted: 7/25/2020 4:40:06 PM EST
That's super strange they are multi-curve but aren't advertised as such, you would think they would plaster that all over the ad?
Link Posted: 7/25/2020 5:26:43 PM EST
BTW, does anyone have any botach coupons :) ?
Link Posted: 7/25/2020 5:52:19 PM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By twistid1:


You ordered the $99 botach plates and they were multicurve?
View Quote



One more yes here.

Recieved mine in July. I think at one point they were single curve, but now they are multi.
Link Posted: 7/26/2020 11:10:31 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Tomac:


Label was printed on the 22nd, UPS picked up on the 24th.

Tomac
View Quote



Cool, thanks.
Link Posted: 7/26/2020 12:59:31 PM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Emt1581:



Not necessarily.  I got the same email and immediately reach out to them because I was concerned.  I think that DOES need to happen.  However they just verified that I was good and mailed my package.  That was paying with PayPal though.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Emt1581:
Originally Posted By jwmac:


lol. Botach is nuts. If I hadn't popped back into this thread, I would have never known about this 28 days payment nonsense. My order is not paid and is over 28 days now. Figured I would just keep waiting until Christmas as I'm in no rush; guess I would be waiting forever.



Not necessarily.  I got the same email and immediately reach out to them because I was concerned.  I think that DOES need to happen.  However they just verified that I was good and mailed my package.  That was paying with PayPal though.

Accepting backorders(or in my case, backordering an "In Stock" item), essentially canceling the backorder if the customer doesn't contact you(which seems to be damn near impossible) at 28 days, and then using new inventory to fill the more recent orders is a pretty shitty way to treat customers.
Link Posted: 7/26/2020 1:21:48 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/26/2020 8:27:34 PM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Tomac:


Don't know about the plates, but I've ordered one of the LongFri helmets out of curiosity, I'll post a 'first impressions' here when it arrives (hasn't actually shipped yet) if no-one objects.

Tomac
View Quote


I have some pics of the od green long fri
Link Posted: 7/26/2020 8:29:17 PM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Clockwork138:

Accepting backorders(or in my case, backordering an "In Stock" item), essentially canceling the backorder if the customer doesn't contact you(which seems to be damn near impossible) at 28 days, and then using new inventory to fill the more recent orders is a pretty shitty way to treat customers.
View Quote


Totally agree.
Link Posted: 7/27/2020 7:12:32 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Clockwork138:

Accepting backorders(or in my case, backordering an "In Stock" item), essentially canceling the backorder if the customer doesn't contact you(which seems to be damn near impossible) at 28 days, and then using new inventory to fill the more recent orders is a pretty shitty way to treat customers.
View Quote


Yes, but it is Botach. I buy from Botach all the time. I also know that CS isn't something I am going to be getting from them, so I buy accordingly.
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 12:53:29 PM EST
Sure as shit, they shipped when they said they would.

Ordered (2x Level IV's) on June 30, just got the shipping notification July 28th.

Stoked.
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 12:54:20 PM EST
My 2nd order of plates just shipped!! So it's pretty consistently a 3 week wait time.  I'll probably place one last order, since they are so cheap.  But the closer we get to November, as with all things gun, I wouldn't expect the wait time to shorten.
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 2:01:06 PM EST
Wow, received the shipping notice for the LVL 4 plates I ordered on 7/10
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 3:05:37 PM EST
I hate you guys. I'm still waiting on the plates I ordered on 6/4.
They finally returned my emails on Sat and I said I'll take level 4 or level 3+...whatever comes in first.

No reply or shipping or updates
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 3:41:37 PM EST
Just received an email with tracking number for the Level IV plates I ordered on July 9.  Now, I am thinking of picking up another at at these prices.
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 3:44:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/28/2020 3:45:48 PM EST by Gloftoe]
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 3:54:49 PM EST
Well, good to know people are getting shipping notifications. Hopefully I'll get one by the end of the day.
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 4:43:24 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 5:44:13 PM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By rainmaker9:
I hate you guys. I'm still waiting on the plates I ordered on 6/4.
They finally returned my emails on Sat and I said I'll take level 4 or level 3+...whatever comes in first.

No reply or shipping or updates
View Quote



If you don't receive them in the near future, I'd stop dicking around with emails and call them.  I know I've emailed a bunch and never received any replies.
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 5:45:43 PM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By osprey21:
Received my shipping notification today as well.
View Quote

How many different types of armor did you buy?
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 5:51:37 PM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Emt1581:



If you don't receive them in the near future, I'd stop dicking around with emails and call them.  I know I've emailed a bunch and never received any replies.
View Quote



I tried calling. They dont answer or return messages
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 7:23:02 PM EST
Received my III+ plates w/10yr warranty today, they look good!

Tomac
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 8:29:31 PM EST
I just received an email from them regarding the III+ plates I ordered 6/12:

"Please be advise your order has been cancelled due to inactivity."

lol

I tried repeatedly contacting them via email and phone, including the number other members were receiving texts from. Oh well.
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 9:03:21 PM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Clockwork138:
I just received an email from them regarding the III+ plates I ordered 6/12:
"Please be advise your order has been cancelled due to inactivity."
lol
I tried repeatedly contacting them via email and phone, including the number other members were receiving texts from. Oh well.
View Quote


Were they the III+ single curve or multi-curve?
Link Posted: 7/28/2020 10:24:14 PM EST
(Back)Ordered the level IV $99 special on 7/25.
Link Posted: 7/29/2020 5:48:54 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Tomac:


Were they the III+ single curve or multi-curve?
View Quote


The III+ i recieved was single curve.
Link Posted: 7/29/2020 8:40:33 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Tomac:


Were they the III+ single curve or multi-curve?
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Tomac:
Originally Posted By Clockwork138:
I just received an email from them regarding the III+ plates I ordered 6/12:
"Please be advise your order has been cancelled due to inactivity."
lol
I tried repeatedly contacting them via email and phone, including the number other members were receiving texts from. Oh well.


Were they the III+ single curve or multi-curve?

Single. They were the only >Level III plates their site claimed were in stock. I wouldn't have ordered if I knew they weren't in stock.
Link Posted: 7/29/2020 11:16:22 AM EST
shiiiit you guys are impatient. ;)  

i had to wait like 3 months for my hescos, and now theres some sort of recall.
Link Posted: 7/29/2020 10:02:00 PM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Clockwork138:
I just received an email from them regarding the III+ plates I ordered 6/12:

"Please be advise your order has been cancelled due to inactivity."

lol

I tried repeatedly contacting them via email and phone, including the number other members were receiving texts from. Oh well.
View Quote


It really is comical. I reached out to customer service last week after finding out via this thread that after 28 days you have to resubmit a payment method . After emailing CS I get the automated reply stating the payment update thing, I reply to that message asking what I need to do regarding updating payment. Crickets for a couple of days, then I get an email from a rep yapping about how new inventory is received every 1-2 weeks, blah, blah, blah and how I need to update my payment. They say I can email my credit card number or send them a phone number that they can call me at to take my CC number over the phone (again ). I decide to send my phone number and I have heard nothing back, its been 3 days now, no response from follow up emails. I have since discovered they have a method to add a payment method on their website, which begs the question, why are they asking for CC #s via email or phone.

I expect a cancellation email soon
Link Posted: 7/30/2020 8:42:25 AM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Click2Boom:
shiiiit you guys are impatient. ;)  

i had to wait like 3 months for my hescos, and now theres some sort of recall.
View Quote


Whoa, what's going on with this?  I bought Hesco 4401's through Kota at the end of 2019 and I waited a long time to get them.  If there's a recall, do we have any recourse yet?  Curious to know more info...
Link Posted: 7/30/2020 8:46:04 PM EST
Almost at day 4 now of "Shipment ready for UPS" and only the label printed.  I'm in no rush so that's really not a major concern.  However....1) I was just emailed (after I reached out 1-2 weeks ago) saying I couldn't add more plates to the current order because it already shipped and 2) Usually when it's just a label printed and it doesn't ship within 24 hours it means....prepare to get frustrated and never receive anything tied to that particular label.  

...I've been Botached.  Cue the ram.  
Link Posted: 7/30/2020 9:04:32 PM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Emt1581:
Almost at day 4 now of "Shipment ready for UPS" and only the label printed.  I'm in no rush so that's really not a major concern.  However....1) I was just emailed (after I reached out 1-2 weeks ago) saying I couldn't add more plates to the current order because it already shipped and 2) Usually when it's just a label printed and it doesn't ship within 24 hours it means....prepare to get frustrated and never receive anything tied to that particular label.  

...I've been Botached.  Cue the ram.  
View Quote



No worries, that happened to me last week. It sat for 4 days in the warehouse, after the label printing, but they did eventually ship, and I've received them today. So, give it some time, I'm sure you'll get 'em soon.
Link Posted: 7/30/2020 10:12:50 PM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By GlockMonk:



No worries, that happened to me last week. It sat for 4 days in the warehouse, after the label printing, but they did eventually ship, and I've received them today. So, give it some time, I'm sure you'll get 'em soon.
View Quote


My Level IIIA+ poly panels have been "Label printed, ready to ship" for over a month lol.
Link Posted: 7/31/2020 12:36:43 AM EST
...and we're in transit!

Thanks Botach...make me pay for shipping twice you dicks!
Link Posted: 7/31/2020 9:42:03 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/31/2020 9:45:11 AM EST by KTM300XCW]
In transit now.. Delivery on 8/5.

They need to get here before the Revolution goes hot next week!
Link Posted: 7/31/2020 11:54:23 AM EST
Continuing the saga with Botach...

The guy in CS is refusing to give me free shipping on the next order due to their shitty/delayed response which would have allowed me to change my order and avoid double ship price/wait.  So here's the conundrum...Do I ask for a return label and immediately return the order, then place an order for everything or do I quit my bitching and either place another order or just avoid Botach?  

I'm not sure how they handle returns/labels as I've never done it.  Anyone have experience with this?

But on the other hand, giving the current climate, no one else is currently offering their level of pricing on armor.  

Link Posted: 7/31/2020 1:22:26 PM EST
I do. They sent the wrong helmet first time.  I sent pictures,  they sent a return label through email.  I dropped it off at fedex, no charge.  Few days later my correct helmet showed up.
Link Posted: 8/1/2020 6:26:05 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/2/2020 12:46:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/2/2020 12:47:10 PM EST by Subsonic300B]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Emt1581:
Continuing the saga with Botach...

The guy in CS is refusing to give me free shipping on the next order due to their shitty/delayed response which would have allowed me to change my order and avoid double ship price/wait.  So here's the conundrum...Do I ask for a return label and immediately return the order, then place an order for everything or do I quit my bitching and either place another order or just avoid Botach?  

I'm not sure how they handle returns/labels as I've never done it.  Anyone have experience with this?

But on the other hand, giving the current climate, no one else is currently offering their level of pricing on armor.  

View Quote



You don't wanna have to wait on a refund from Botach.  You think shipping can be bad sometimes, getting them to process a refund can take months also.  If you are prepping for things getting worse this fall just eat the shipping costs and continue to prep for what may come this fall.
Link Posted: 8/2/2020 12:49:22 PM EST
Hell forgot to say my 2 level IV plates look like they will be delivered via UPS on Wednesday this week.  Looking forward to seeing how well they fit in the Grey Ghost Gear Minimalist plate carriers.  Scored a bunch of them when they got clearanced out for like $25 a pop last year.
Link Posted: 8/2/2020 1:23:25 PM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Subsonic300B:



You don't wanna have to wait on a refund from Botach.  You think shipping can be bad sometimes, getting them to process a refund can take months also.  If you are prepping for things getting worse this fall just eat the shipping costs and continue to prep for what may come this fall.
View Quote



This is what I ended up doing.  Grabbed a few more plates so I'll have enough for different needs (5.56, .308, casual, black tie, etc.)  and for family just in case the politicians get cute come 2021.  

Link Posted: 8/2/2020 4:51:36 PM EST
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Subsonic300B:
Hell forgot to say my 2 level IV plates look like they will be delivered via UPS on Wednesday this week.  Looking forward to seeing how well they fit in the Grey Ghost Gear Minimalist plate carriers.  Scored a bunch of them when they got clearanced out for like $25 a pop last year.
View Quote


Dang, wish I had seen that. Would have bought a bunch too.

Maybe once the panic buying is all over (knock on wood) we'll see some good clearance sales on stuff that these companies all rushed to stock up on.
Link Posted: 8/2/2020 7:15:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/3/2020 7:45:52 AM EST by bigvic]
Got my Battle Steel level IV plates delivered today.  They are multicurve and fit my PC perfectly.  Could not be more happy.

ETA:  I back ordered on 6/29, shipping label created on 7/28, and they delivered on 8/2.
Link Posted: 8/4/2020 5:18:41 AM EST
So I have a K19 with RMA 1092 as my primary PC but I wouldn't having another as a backup.  What's a cheap (<$100) carrier that these lvl4 would go good with?
Link Posted: 8/4/2020 5:24:13 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/4/2020 5:32:33 AM EST by Brian01]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By twistid1:
So I have a K19 with RMA 1092 as my primary PC but I wouldn't having another as a backup.  What's a cheap (<$100) carrier that these lvl4 would go good with?
View Quote


Condor makes a variety of carriers, most of which are in the $50-$100 range. They're made in China and not known for holding up with long-term hard use. But if that's going to be a problem then you probably shouldn't be buying Botach plates either.
Page / 10
Top Top