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Bachman Guns Boycott!
Posted By: Randy in Tx. (126.96.36.199)
Date: 2/4/06 21:17
Guys this is kind of long but factual. I had been debating AOW or SBS
decided to do both. Bachman Guns in Dallas,Tx. carries the factory
Reminton AOW's and was close to my work. Not to mention I frequent
shop and have made many purchases there in the past. Here goes:
On Thursday, Feb. 2,2006 I traveled 45mi. to buy an AOW Remy from
Guns in Dallas, Tx. When I got to their store they were busy. I looked
around and decided all I was going to get on this trip was the AOW. I
notified a sales person that I had purchased from before that I wanted
purchase the AOW. He told me Shawn the owner was the only guy who could
the paperwork. The salesman told Shawn that I wanted to buy an AOW.
asked if I was a corp. or individual buyer. He asked what county I
in and I responded as well as held up a copy of a previous F4 with cleo
sig. He said with a disgusted look on his face that he didn't have time
do the paperwork. No apologies whatsoever. OKay! I left in disbelief.
Cooler heads pervailing I thought maybe he was too busy. Round 2:
On Friday, Feb. 3,2006 I went back to Bachman's shop looking to turn in
F1 & F4 for CLEO sig that day. I had photo's, prints, & citizenship
with me to deliver as I left his shop. I walked into the shop as always
the sales people ask "what can I help you with!" I told them I was back
buy an AOW. They summoned Shawn and as he walked up I stated it was
quieter in there than the day before. I told him once again I wanted to
buy an AOW. He asked his salesperson to write me up an invoice. He
out a NIB AOW so the S/N could be recorded on the invoice and I could
inspect. He took my copy of a previous F4, picked up his forms to type
and as he walked to the back I heard him say to his employee's in the
"I don't have time for this shit." He returned with his part typed and
asked me to fill out the back including signature. My cleo as well as
F4 instructions state to sign in front of sheriff or his designee. I
simply told Shawn about this and he said "I will not sell you a gun
you sign the form." So I signed. He went back to make a copy and came
with finger print cards and the old citizenship forms. I told him I
already had print cards made out ready to ship and that there was a
revised citizenship form out(titleii.com). He took them back and came
with an envelope stating that after the sheriff signed, he wanted to
review all the forms and I had to bring him the check payable to BATF&E
the whopping amount of $5. He and he only would send the forms in
certified mail. I offered to bring in my forms and fp cards for him to
review right then. I said I live 45mi. away and it would be next week
before I could get back as well as I wanted to mail them that day. He
looked at me and said "I don't want to sell you a gun." He asked his
person to give him my check back which was paid in full. He handed me
my check and said "I don't want to do business with you." I was stuned.
As I was driving my 45mi. back home a buddy of mine that runs Classic
Shows which Bachman is always at called. I told him the story and he
couldn't believe it. He stopped by and spoke to Shawn in person within
minutes of our conversation. Shawn told my buddy that I was a wise ass
that I had previously been in his shop with a dealer picking out a gun
then letting my alleged buddy do a dealer transfer for me right there
his shop. Folks that never happened!
I will never darken their door again nor give any referals for business
I have done in the past. Shawns demeanor and customer service needs a
in the ass. All my buddies are already onboard. Word of mouth and vote
with your feet.
There's too many gun shops to treat people like shit.
If you read this post, THANK YOU!!!
Randy has been a customer of mine for 4 years now. Actually, it's more like a customer turned friend. He & I, along with several others, have some very long indepth conversations about everything from religion, our kids, wives, present or past, politics, and we sometimes disagree. I believe it's safe to say we know each other. Randy is very well-read on all the lastest NFA happenings & I very often ask his advice. It sounds like he may have embarrassed the man at Bachman because he knew more about the details of the paperwork than the shop did. He is knowledgable and honest to the point that he has run my shop for me while I ran a errand. He will very often help a customer with a problem because he can answer it better. Bottom line, if he was a smart ass he would never be aloud to talk to my customers. I don't know any body at Bachman, but I do know Randy!!!
Tom's Discount Gun Accessories
8438 Seawright LN.
Royse City, TX.75189
Tom E Reynolds
++++++ 1 !!!
Bachman Guns = AZZ HOLES !!!!
Everyone at the gunshows that knows anything cant stand them.
Wow. My experience with them was the opposite. I purchased two 6920's and one of the salesmen went in the back and brought two up. The owner, i guess his name is Shawn, noticed the saleman didn't look for sequential serial numbers. Shawn took the two boxes back and spent 20 minutes finding two that had sequential numbers.
Anyways, if I were you i would be pretty upset and wouldn't shop there agian. I, on the other hand, will because my experiance was pleasant.
Fuck Bachman, I have bought a couple of weapons from there, but not anymore!
Well, can't blame you there, if that had happened to me I'd have done the same thing. But your right, there are too many good guys out there to support the assholes. Just my .02
I walked into Bachman P & G about 5 months ago. I see 3, SOCOM 16's on the wall but did not buy one (I did buy a Glock 19). A month goes by and I decide that I want one of those SOCOM's, so I call them up to get the price. The guy tells me they are all out and won't get any in for some time. About a week goes by and I get a call from a friend of mine who wanted to tell me about the new rifle he bought THAT day and low and behold, it'a SOCOM purchased from Bachman. This is a week after I was told they were fresh out. The guy on the other end of the phone, clearly did not bother to see if they had any in, nor did he care at all to be of any service whatsoever.
I've bought several guns from them in the past (including 2 AR's and 3 Glocks) but not anymore. FUCK THEM AND THEIR WAY OF DOING BUSINESS!!
Damn, and I was thinking about going over there...
Shawn, and Bachman, have Advanced gundealer butt in the air syndrome. Always have. We used to by H&Ks for around $450 new at Qualified in Tulsa and when the 1986 SHTF happened, Bachman was the first to say show me the money, or you cant touch it. A lot of gun dealers learned to be real arrogant, and adopt a you need me I don't need you attitude. The AWB just rewarded and compounded this. Now it seems there are a lot of gun dealers who are decent to deal with.....Supply and demand....Yes, I sold all the H&Ks and trigger groups when folks started paying way too much for them!
Bachman pawn does not realize that for every person they piss off, they loose over 4 sales. They are about to go under......
think they have lost more than that through this thread alone.
How many of you see them in SGN and see something you want from them and call them right after the SGN has printed. For me it seems they are always out of what I want and be running the add and they are not expecting the item in for months or don't know when it going to come in. Its false advertizing if you ask me. Is it odd they don't evan have a website? Yes on the phone there are very short cause they say there busy or shawn not in so can't find out what I need to know about a item they are selling.
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