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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Aug A3 -- we will never see these thanks to George Bush 41.

Posted: 9/27/2005 11:05:56 AM EDT

www.silencertests.com

Posted: 9/27/2005 11:09:16 AM EDT

[#1]

Yikes! That's evil! We don't need 'em anyway.

Posted: 9/27/2005 11:19:16 AM EDT

[#2]

And William Klinton.

Posted: 9/27/2005 11:59:19 AM EDT

[#3]

I know the version shown is more capable for some users, but I just can't think of an AUG as anything other than the good old fashioned (ha) version that we had but was banned from import.
'Twas a classic, she was.

Posted: 9/27/2005 12:47:40 PM EDT

[#4]

others have said it before, and i heartily believe it.

the buck stops with the AR15. that is, for the most part, the last "military-type" firearm we will see in large numbers here in the USA.

the few others will be small scale and expensive.

Posted: 9/27/2005 12:54:37 PM EDT

[#5]

or the full auto version thanks to Reagan

Posted: 9/27/2005 1:41:10 PM EDT

[#6]

At least we have the AR15. If were going to have a proliferation of one assault rifle here in the US its nice to have a damn good one. Imagine if we were stuck with a FAMAS as the only major domestically produced assault rifle.

Posted: 9/27/2005 3:23:57 PM EDT

[#7]

I agree.

The AR-15 is one heckuva rifle.

If only we can overturm the 1986 machinegun amendment.

M-16s too.

Not enough votes in the Senate to do it.

CRC

Posted: 9/27/2005 5:51:35 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
or the full auto version thanks to Reagan

Or the full-auto version without going through the NFA thanks to FDR.

Posted: 9/27/2005 6:21:21 PM EDT

[#9]

Wow, what an awesome picture. Do you have anymore of the AUG A3?

Posted: 9/27/2005 6:47:11 PM EDT

[#10]

We need to find a way to stop bullshit import bans for allied countries. It makes no sense. Instead of complaining about who's at fault, we need to find a way to reverse the bullshit.

Posted: 9/27/2005 9:17:30 PM EDT

[#11]

I think the A1 and A2 look better. Which, of course, has no bearing on how well it works.

*shrug*

Posted: 9/27/2005 9:21:13 PM EDT

[#12]

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We need to find a way to stop bullshit import bans for allied countries. It makes no sense. Instead of complaining about who's at fault, we need to find a way to reverse the bullshit.

You can't reverse a presidential directive without a decent president.

Elect Ted Nugent.

No one else will ever be ballsy enough to be called "The Assault Weapon" president by every media outlet in the nation.

Posted: 9/28/2005 4:52:43 AM EDT

[#13]

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We need to find a way to stop bullshit import bans for allied countries. It makes no sense. Instead of complaining about who's at fault, we need to find a way to reverse the bullshit.

You can't reverse a presidential directive without a decent president.

Elect Ted Nugent.

No one else will ever be ballsy enough to be called "The Assault Weapon" president by every media outlet in the nation.

Now that's an idea I can get behind!!!!

Posted: 9/28/2005 4:56:26 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
or the full auto version thanks to Reagan

Did not the NRA tell him to sign it?

Posted: 9/28/2005 1:27:08 PM EDT

[#15]

Anything happen with DSA making them here?

Posted: 9/28/2005 3:53:23 PM EDT

[#16]

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or the full auto version thanks to Reagan

Or the full-auto version without going through the NFA thanks to FDR.

Yeah, but 20 years ago how many members were there? There wasnt the 1989 import nor the 1994 AWB ban then. The NRA phucked us back in 1986 as did Reagan. Reagan's out of office, so are the 1986 NRA leadership.

The NRA isn't perfect, but the reason why the 1994 AWB hasn't been renewed is due to a large part of their efforts.

I'd like to see the repeal of both the 86/89 bans.

Posted: 9/28/2005 4:02:54 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
At least we have the AR15. If were going to have a proliferation of one assault rifle here in the US its nice to have a damn good one. Imagine if we were stuck with a FAMAS as the only major domestically produced assault rifle.

I would love to have a FAMAS. I wish someone made it here in the USA.

Posted: 9/28/2005 7:32:08 PM EDT

[#18]

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or the full auto version thanks to Reagan

Or the full-auto version without going through the NFA thanks to FDR.

Yeah, but 20 years ago how many members were there? There wasnt the 1989 import nor the 1994 AWB ban then. The NRA phucked us back in 1986 as did Reagan. Reagan's out of office, so are the 1986 NRA leadership.

The NRA isn't perfect, but the reason why the 1994 AWB hasn't been renewed is due to a large part of their efforts.

I'd like to see the repeal of both the 86/89 bans.

I'd also like to have a three-way with some Playboy Bunnies, but it sure as shit isn't going to happen.

Posted: 9/28/2005 10:39:33 PM EDT

[#19]

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or the full auto version thanks to Reagan

Or the full-auto version without going through the NFA thanks to FDR.

Yeah, but 20 years ago how many members were there? There wasnt the 1989 import nor the 1994 AWB ban then. The NRA phucked us back in 1986 as did Reagan. Reagan's out of office, so are the 1986 NRA leadership.

The NRA isn't perfect, but the reason why the 1994 AWB hasn't been renewed is due to a large part of their efforts.

I'd like to see the repeal of both the 86/89 bans.

The only possibility is the supreme court, if a legal challenge makes its way there, and the court is conservative enough to rule on the side of the 2nd Adm.

The NFA law came about because the Supreme Ct ruled it was unconstitutional to ban sale or ownership of machine guns by civilians, so they (congress) taxed them instead.

Based on past rulings, the 86 ban is on weak ground, at best.

Still a long shot, but far more likely than anything coming out of congress or the White House.

Posted: 9/29/2005 2:48:02 AM EDT

[#20]

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or the full auto version thanks to Reagan

Or the full-auto version without going through the NFA thanks to FDR.

Yeah, but 20 years ago how many members were there? There wasnt the 1989 import nor the 1994 AWB ban then. The NRA phucked us back in 1986 as did Reagan. Reagan's out of office, so are the 1986 NRA leadership.

The NRA isn't perfect, but the reason why the 1994 AWB hasn't been renewed is due to a large part of their efforts.

I'd like to see the repeal of both the 86/89 bans.

The only possibility is the supreme court, if a legal challenge makes its way there, and the court is conservative enough to rule on the side of the 2nd Adm.

The NFA law came about because the Supreme Ct ruled it was unconstitutional to ban sale or ownership of machine guns by civilians, so they (congress) taxed them instead.

Based on past rulings, the 86 ban is on weak ground, at best.

Still a long shot, but far more likely than anything coming out of congress or the White House.

The reason there is such a low likelyhood of a vate coming out of either house is the defeatist attitude I get from over 90% of the people I talk to about this. They all want to cry and say the Elmer Fudds rule the NRA, nobody will vote for it, the media will crucify anyone who votes for it. A million excuses. If we get together and apply pressure as a group, something might happen. Letter campaigns, call-in days, even marches. If the freaking nazis can have marches for their cause, why can't we have some informational rallies? If we're all alredy villians in the eyes of the press, what will it hurt. Maybe if the general public sees some normal well behaved people out honestly trying to save their rights it might help. And don't give me that "we don't want to call attention" crap. This is a fight for our rights. The founding Fathers weren't afraid to "call attention" to theirselves and stood to loose a lot more. Make your reps understand this is important to you and, and not just your vote but that of anyone who will listen depends on it.

Posted: 9/29/2005 2:50:20 AM EDT

[#21]

Think 12 1/2 months ago.

Posted: 9/29/2005 9:29:22 AM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
Quoted:
At least we have the AR15. If were going to have a proliferation of one assault rifle here in the US its nice to have a damn good one. Imagine if we were stuck with a FAMAS as the only major domestically produced assault rifle.

I would love to have a FAMAS. I wish someone made it here in the USA.

Heres a semi auto MAS .223 that anther member of the forum asked me to post a while back, cost him a pretty penny. I would literally give a nut for one of these...

Posted: 9/29/2005 10:17:52 AM EDT

[#23]

The point was its nice to be able to get the AR15 which is one of the best combat rifles ever.

Nothing wrong with the FAMAS, I was just using it as a comparison.

Posted: 9/29/2005 6:01:27 PM EDT

[#24]

I would literally give a nut for one of these...

You can only get one if you’re French, and that’s exactly what you got to do to become French

Jk! It’s a fine weapon.

Posted: 10/3/2005 5:38:39 PM EDT

[#25]

www.impactguns.com/store/STEYR-AUGA3-16.html
Now for an 18” fluted chrome lined barrel with 1 in 8 twist and there will be no other SHTF rifles be for it!

Posted: 10/3/2005 6:48:30 PM EDT

[#26]

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At least we have the AR15. If were going to have a proliferation of one assault rifle here in the US its nice to have a damn good one. Imagine if we were stuck with a FAMAS as the only major domestically produced assault rifle.

I would love to have a FAMAS. I wish someone made it here in the USA.

Heres a semi auto MAS .223 that anther member of the forum asked me to post a while back, cost him a pretty penny. I would literally give a nut for one of these...

img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/nf9648/mas5.jpg img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/nf9648/mas4.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/nf9648/mas3.jpg img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/nf9648/mas2.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/nf9648/mas1.jpg

Yup, it just about DID cost me a nut!!!! She's a beauty, aint she??? I even got a chance to buy some spare parts for it (thanks to Buddy Hinton from Sturmgewehr.com)......and let me tell you....they arent' cheap, either. But it did give me a little piece of mind knowing that if I, say, chip an extractor, it CAN be replaced.

Posted: 10/3/2005 6:54:50 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
www.impactguns.com/store/STEYR-AUGA3-16.html
Now for an 18” fluted chrome lined barrel with 1 in 8 twist and there will be no other SHTF rifles be for it!

"STEYR ARMS, INC. introduces its new 5.56 mm AUG A3 modular weapon system at the 2005 IACP convention to the US and international law enforcement community" that mean still no semi models for us civvies?

Posted: 10/4/2005 9:33:38 AM EDT

[#28]

Uhh? Some body call em on it.

Posted: 10/6/2005 11:58:15 AM EDT

[#29]

I put in a pre-order successfully. Site says it;s a civvie version. Woohoo, hope it pans out.

Posted: 10/6/2005 12:24:54 PM EDT

[#30]

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I put in a pre-order successfully. Site says it;s a civvie version. Woohoo, hope it pans out.

MMMmmmm.... Link to site and place you put in the order please!

Posted: 10/6/2005 5:58:20 PM EDT

[#31]

http://www.impactguns.com/store/STEYR-AUGA3-16.html

Pre-order for civilian AUG. Picatinny rails, flat top, 16" bullpup, 1.5x integrated optic, black stock and 20 rnd mag. SA civilian version. We are accepting pre-orders. Note- Price subject to change at invoice.

Posted: 10/6/2005 6:07:47 PM EDT

[#32]

Also, I thought "20 round mag" sounded dubious, but look here:

http://www.steyr-mannlicher.com/index.php?id=657

Some of the mags in the A3 gallery photos are certainly not 30s or 42s, nor the 9 rounder that came with the USR. Damn, I hope this happens.

Posted: 10/6/2005 6:34:04 PM EDT

[#33]

the ability of the government to tax is the ability of the government to destroy."

thats what they were thinking when they taxed machine guns.

Posted: 10/6/2005 6:38:57 PM EDT

[#34]

You guys need to put the blame in the right place... LBJ and FDR.

Posted: 10/7/2005 8:02:31 AM EDT

[#35]

well I also just preordered one from impact, but then again, i also cancled a MK11 order after it was 2 years late, so who knows maybe ill luck out this time with these guys

Posted: 10/7/2005 6:03:11 PM EDT

[#36]

I pre-ordered too. They e-mailed me and said pics on their website will be posted in a few weeks. Keep your fingers crossed AUG fans.

Posted: 10/7/2005 8:39:37 PM EDT

[#37]

I still don't see how this is legal.

When Klinton banned the import of the USR in 1998, it was over.

Oh and full auto AUGs were banned in 1968 by someone named Lyndon Baines Johnson, NOT REAGAN!

Reagan just banned domestic machineguns. the AUG is not made in the USA.

Posted: 10/8/2005 11:54:26 AM EDT

[#38]

why cant styer shift production to the US? buisnesswise it would be smart

Posted: 10/8/2005 12:27:35 PM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:
Think 12 1/2 months ago.

Vs. what he is talking about AWB is irrelevant.

Posted: 10/9/2005 9:58:33 AM EDT

[#40]

From what I've heard, the US gov got mad at Steyr for offering to sell rifles to Iran. The Steyr folks told the US that if they let Steyr sell to the US civilian market, they would not sell the guns to Iran. US said no way, Steyr sold guns to Iran.

Sucks that tangos get better guns, but Steyr has to stay in business...sucks harder that our gov both screwed law-abiding citizens and let tangos get better guns at the same time. Good freakin job there guys.

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