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Posted: 10/7/2004 10:04:20 PM EDT
Well, the more I look at them, the more I want one, Arisaka that is. Saddly, I have never heard of anyone selling 7.7, and I'm sure surplus does not exist and the brass to reload is expensive, saw some for 3 bucks a casing. Ouch. However I've seen some Type-99's flooting around in .30-06. I have also been told the action on these rifles is superior to a Mauser, so are the .30-06 versios safe to use and fire?

Also, some careification. .30-06 measn .30 (thrity cal) in 1906 (year the round was adopted), This would mean its smaller than a 7.62mm round which is .308 > .30
So how did they rebore these Arisaka's for .30-06 when they are 7.7mm, which I guess is like .310 or so?

Link Posted: 10/7/2004 10:06:25 PM EDT
The action in strong if its a pre 42/43 rifle, after that I read the metal quality went down.

Norma makes ammo for then, but its big money.

I have one of these, but I have never shot it
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 10:12:15 PM EDT
So anything after 42/43 would be a "last ditch rifle".
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 10:14:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Corbic:
So anything after 42/43 would be a "last ditch rifle".

I think so.

Check out www.surplusrifle.com
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 11:02:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/7/2004 11:05:09 PM EDT by purplecheese]
The U.S. Gov't did some rebarrel jobs on Arisakas after the war for the boys in the Korean conflict. I'm not sure what kind of markings to look at for those rifles.

Use this website when looking at rifles to know what year/arsenal/various other information when buying a rifle like these.
Another good webiste is Castle Thunder.

A good way to tell a last ditch rifle is no metal butt plate, non adjustable sights, pinned sights, rough machining of the action, and a smooth saftey. The saftey is a knurled knob on the end of the bolt, early models had a checkering on them - late models were roughed to a semi-smooth finish.

If the rifle was done by a good smith, then it would be a pretty safe bet - though I'm not a fan of taking an arsenal built rifle and transforming it into a frankenstein rifle.

The ezboard message boards have some good information to look up also.
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 11:06:18 PM EDT
Nor am I, every time I see a "sported" rifle I want to vomit. However with ammunition as rare as it is, it can't be helped, I'm a shooter first, collector second.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 2:43:22 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 2:44:41 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 12:25:15 PM EDT
Also, unless it was a rebarrel, expect to see bulged/expanded cases after firing. The 7.7 x 58 Japanese is a little fatter than a standard '06 case. So, if you want decent accuracy, you could make a .303/7.7/'06, and use only those cases. I've also read an autobiography of a Japanese soldier who hid out in the Philipines for 30 years (44-74) with a Type 99 (7.7mm). He said that for most of his time there he used "Lewis gun Ammo" (.303 British) and it functioned well enough; just made his rifle into a single shot instead of magazine fed. I've got a 99 action at home that someone "bubba-ized" and I ground down the rim of a .303 Brit dummy round just to see if the action would close on it. It does, although I may have excess headspace because I have a mismatched bolt. I found 8 Norma loaded rounds at a show years ago and paid .50 each. Anyway, I am a fan of the Japanese rifles. I have a 38, 99, and a Type I. Unfortunately, all were "bubba-ized" before I got them. The 99 was a real shame: unground mum, 4 digit serial number. Some idiot cropped the barrel, installed an 03A3 front ramp, drilled for a Williams receiver sight, and reblued all of it. I bought the barrelled action for $5. I bought another action with everything else, but in worse shape for $40, and an inletted sporter stock for another $40. I will eventually build it into a sporter, more for practice than anything else.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 10:26:24 PM EDT
Somehow its just sounding easier to reload 7.7mm. Any good places to start looking at about reloading. I dont have the slightest clue other than its a PITA and I can get 2 sets for dies for 7.7mm for about 10 bucks.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 10:29:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/8/2004 10:29:59 PM EDT by Corbic]
Also, is this barrel still attached to the receiver?

Link Posted: 10/9/2004 3:08:41 AM EDT
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