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Posted: 5/30/2008 6:11:12 AM EDT
...or am i just really behind.   pretty bad ass, a little pricey though...
linky
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 6:19:51 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 6:32:43 AM EDT
looks super cool, but I dont think I'll be adapting my rifle to shoot the same bullets slower...
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 6:33:47 AM EDT
Actually 5.7x28 ammo is less than good quality .223/5.56, and 9mm rounds.
I mean the SS197/SS195 rounds can be used well for self-defense and hunting, just sadly there is no 'cheap' plinking type of 5.7x28 on the market.

The AR upper is a good concept for having the ability to swap calibers easily, but I'm passing on it.
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 6:42:26 AM EDT
snort
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 6:53:33 AM EDT
I still don't understand the use of the 5.7.
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 7:20:18 AM EDT
I want one.......it would be a fun unit with 50 rounds......yup, they have 50 round boxes on the shelf here for $21, that is less then the 5.56.....the cheapest 9mm is still less, but I just think it would be fun.
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 10:34:56 AM EDT
"This upper defines high speed low drag"

Link Posted: 5/30/2008 10:39:45 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 10:43:26 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 12:41:39 PM EDT
how about the same upper style (top fed mag, mag well ejection) for a useful claiber thats not common in an ar design...like 7.62x25 or 10mm.

i know nothing of the feeding qualities of either round, but both seem more useful than the 5.7mm.
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 1:09:31 PM EDT
cool idea, looks fun

but, i'm gonna pass on it
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 1:29:19 PM EDT

Quoted:
how about the same upper style (top fed mag, mag well ejection) for a useful claiber thats not common in an ar design...like 7.62x25 or 10mm.

i know nothing of the feeding qualities of either round, but both seem more useful than the 5.7mm.


If you don't know anything about any of the rounds why are you thinking it would be 'more useful' than the 5.7?
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 2:25:54 PM EDT
Looks cool. If only they could make it in 17hmr.
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 2:27:36 PM EDT
I'll stick with my Ciener .22 LR conversion.
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 6:18:29 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 6:53:46 PM EDT

Quoted:
snort


to the point! lol
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 8:29:23 PM EDT

lol
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 9:16:54 PM EDT
Hey, I still want a PS90 in 5.56...

FWIW, the upper conversion IS pretty neat.  Basically a PS90 for 1/3rd the cost, and the ability to go full auto with a registered lower...which is something pretty much no one can otherwise do with the 5.7.
Link Posted: 5/31/2008 2:59:52 AM EDT
I second that for the full auto. If and when the ammo comes down in price this could be a very cool FA upper.
Link Posted: 5/31/2008 4:02:34 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/31/2008 2:53:15 PM EDT
Been waiting for it to be released.
Link Posted: 5/31/2008 9:24:25 PM EDT
I have seen a few of these but all are "coming soon". I am waiting as I will get on to go with my 5.7 pistol Once the get everything working and get to market
Link Posted: 5/31/2008 10:01:31 PM EDT
You may not like the 5.7 round but WHY do people keep saying the ammo is too expensive?  In my area it costs exactly the same as Wolf 5.56 ammo.  Cabellas has it for $19.00 per box of 50.  That is the same as paying $7.60 for a 20 round box of Wolf 5.56 which is the going price in my area.  Do people have that hard a time doing the math?  And if you reload it is the same as your home brew 5.56

MadDog
Link Posted: 6/1/2008 12:10:10 AM EDT

Quoted:

Quoted:
how about the same upper style (top fed mag, mag well ejection) for a useful claiber thats not common in an ar design...like 7.62x25 or 10mm.

i know nothing of the feeding qualities of either round, but both seem more useful than the 5.7mm.


If you don't know anything about any of the rounds why are you thinking it would be 'more useful' than the 5.7?


10mm>5.7
Link Posted: 6/1/2008 2:38:09 AM EDT

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I still don't understand the use of the 5.7.


i wanna 22mag with pointy bullets????  Only thing other than its new I can come up with.
Link Posted: 6/1/2008 5:42:52 AM EDT
dont know about the feeding qualities of each round.  tho now i have a pretty good understanding of mrnuke7175 lack of reading comprehension.  

i know that the 7.62tok and 10mm arent just flat shooting .22s.

that being said this set up i see significantly more ergonomic than the ps90, and significantly more versatile.

if i wanted a new over price firearm that shot ineffective expensive ammo, id be sooooo all over this one.
Link Posted: 6/1/2008 7:12:22 AM EDT

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First I have seen of it.  Looks like a neat idea for those 5.7 enthusiasts.  Ammo is a little too expensive for me though.

Agreed, on all three counts.

In this market, can you imagine how far out of the park they'd have knocked this one if they'd done the *exact* same thing in .22LR?
Link Posted: 6/1/2008 7:19:15 AM EDT

Quoted:

Quoted:
I still don't understand the use of the 5.7.

I understand it but it still doesn't interest me. YMMV.

OTOH, the top-magazine/magwell-eject design for an AR upper is very novel and appeals to me a lot.  This upper comes closer to making want to add 5.7 to the roster than any previous offerings have... but still no cigar for me.  Not yet...

Yes.
Link Posted: 6/1/2008 7:34:33 AM EDT

Quoted:

Quoted:
how about the same upper style (top fed mag, mag well ejection) for a useful claiber thats not common in an ar design...like 7.62x25 or 10mm.

i know nothing of the feeding qualities of either round, but both seem more useful than the 5.7mm.


If you don't know anything about any of the rounds why are you thinking it would be 'more useful' than the 5.7?


Because aparently its cool to not like the 5.7.

I have a PS90 and its a very nice weapon. Its a PDW round that has a practical purpose. Some just dont like it.

That is a neat upper. I might get one. I have 5000 rounds of 5.7 so having another rifle to feed would be nice.
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 3:09:55 PM EDT

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pointless in NY, we would need to use the 10 round mags with it...


And that's why you need to get to PA...NY blows ass chips.  
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 6:53:28 PM EDT
Seen it and I'll stick with 5.56mm for my AR thanks. Why go with a smaller round that is way expensive i don't know.
Link Posted: 6/3/2008 8:30:49 PM EDT
I love it when arm chair warriors say it's just a pointy 22mag.  Let's see, 30gr. 22WMR = 1,910 fps @ 285ft/lbs. from 16" bbl and will not penetrate body armor.  28gr. 5.7x28 = 2,300 fps @ 390 ft/lbs. from 16" bbl and will penetrate four layers of second chance body armor.  I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed but the ballistics DO NOT look the same to me.  It wasn't too hard to find these stats on the internet.

MadDog

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