After Watching the N.O. Mayhem, Are there any water resistant Shotgun Shells on the market?

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - After Watching the N.O. Mayhem, Are there any water resistant Shotgun Shells on the market?

Posted: 8/31/2005 6:13:54 PM EDT

After Watching the N.O. Mayhem, Are there any water resistant Shotgun Shells on the market?

For example, Carrying 100 shells in a hip pouch in waste deep water where they risk exposure, or in a rainy enviroment?

Lets say that the shells might be in the SHTF type scenario with you for several weeks or even months.

Posted: 8/31/2005 7:23:25 PM EDT

[#1]

tagged for next hurricane.

Posted: 8/31/2005 7:32:20 PM EDT

[#2]

Don't know of any buckshot or any other lead loads that are water resistent.

Almost every waterfowl ammo manufacturer will make one or more non-toxic loads that are water resistent; Winchester Dry-lok for instance.

Posted: 8/31/2005 7:57:57 PM EDT

[#3]

wax, or seal it with fingernail polish maybee?

Posted: 8/31/2005 8:00:18 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
wax, or seal it with fingernail polish maybee?

Is that even safe? Has anyone ever tried that?

Posted: 8/31/2005 8:48:03 PM EDT

[#5]

You can use fingernail polish or fast drying lacquer to seal the primers.
This is essentially how military ammo is sealed, although most military is also sealed around the case neck.

Simply use a small artist's brush to run a bead of sealer around the joint between the primer and the case head, not over the primer.

The problem with shotshells is the crimp over the shot.
Most commercial stuff has a small hole in the end.
A dab of something like a quick set epoxy or a dab of hot-melt glue in JUST the hole would work well.

You would also have to keep an eye on the case heads, since most are actually steel with a brass plated finish, and will rust.

Posted: 8/31/2005 8:59:21 PM EDT

[#6]

My understanding is that the best shotgun shells for long term storage and reliability are brass. They cost a lot, but better than losing an arm and a leg to "undocumented shoppers" when SHTF.

Posted: 9/1/2005 3:32:31 AM EDT

[#7]

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My understanding is that the best shotgun shells for long term storage and reliability are brass. They cost a lot, but better than losing an arm and a leg to "undocumented shoppers" when SHTF.

The only brass I can seem to find en-bulk are those Silver Bear Shells, Any good?

Posted: 9/1/2005 3:33:45 AM EDT

[#8]

As usual, DFW is spot-on with his advice. When I was a tadpole, I was a pretty "serious" duck hunter...well, at least as serious as a 14 year old can be about stuff like that when he has no money

I have immersed shotshells many times and, of course, water gets in your duck boat...that 14ft. wood johnboat leaked enough that we often had to shoot a while, then bail, then shoot some more

...so spare ammo would often end up getting wet as well. Older, unwaxed paper shells were toast if they got wet. (Remember, we were not rich, and I would shoot damned near anything I could get) Waxed paper shells were much better, but would still swell if they got really wet and were not used for a couple of hours. Plastic was the shitz...it would shoot fine. (For the record, I have some brass case #00, and it has a paper seal and wad, so I think it would fare little better than waxed paper cased stuff)

"Wet" in this instance, however, is not the same as "wet" in something like NO! I think the best course of action would be to first seal the crimp and primer as noted by dfariswheel, then take a hard look at some sort of water-resistant packaging and next, a water-resistant pouch...or at least a pouch that will drain and dry fast. (Water resistance from the outside will translate into resistance to drainage if water does get in...ever torn one leg on a set of waders?) I think I would consider one of the vacum seal machines...like Seal-A-Meal, or similar...and package my shells, say 5 per pack so I would be able to keep as many as possible in a dry condition inside my pouch / storage.

The vacum seal gear is cheap enough that it might be worth a try at sealing some cheap ammo up and running an immersion test...it would certainly make for an interesting thread!

Posted: 9/1/2005 7:07:58 AM EDT

[#9]

I don't know about waterproof shells or aplying fingernail polish to them. I know I keep my shells in MTM SD-100 dry boxes.

Posted: 9/1/2005 7:14:35 AM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
I don't know about waterproof shells or aplying fingernail polish to them. I know I keep my shells in MTM SD-100 dry boxes.

yup, that works, but when loaded in your gun in very wet, rainy conditions, and maybee getting the gun submerged due to fall or the like, you may want to keep the water out

Posted: 9/1/2005 7:23:05 AM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
Quoted:
I don't know about waterproof shells or aplying fingernail polish to them. I know I keep my shells in MTM SD-100 dry boxes.

yup, that works, but when loaded in your gun in very wet, rainy conditions, and maybee getting the gun submerged due to fall or the like, you may want to keep the water out

If that 's the case I just replace my drum/mag and keep-on shooting...

Posted: 9/1/2005 10:08:48 AM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
I don't know about waterproof shells or aplying fingernail polish to them. I know I keep my shells in MTM SD-100 dry boxes.

I buy those floresent orange dry boxes that you find in the fishing section. Mine is packed full of buckshot and slugs. I guess I'd better get a little boat to drag it behind on a string.

R.

Posted: 9/1/2005 7:34:00 PM EDT

[#13]

I have a few sets of shells that I sealed the primers on and the used a very thin layer of clear RTV / silicone on the entire crimp area. after submerging for 8 hours they all fired.

Posted: 9/12/2005 1:18:47 AM EDT

[#14]

Actually, the Remington Law Enforcement Reduced Recoil Buckshot loads come with a sealant over the crimp. The crimp is pretty tight with no real 'hole' in the center, and a shiny coating seals the folds and center of the crimp. I also noticed the box is very clean with none of the powdered white buffer clinging to the box and shells as with other brands.

http://hometown.aol.com/allenst/RR12-00BK/RR12-00BK.jpg

http://hometown.aol.com/allenst/RR12-00BK/front.jpg

Posted: 9/12/2005 11:52:00 AM EDT

[#15]

THAT looks like a winner.

What I really, really want is a Remington LE Reduced Recoil load of #1 buckshot.
Remington DID make a #4 load, but seems to have discontinued it.

Since #1 is ballisticaly the best bet, I like to be able to buy that.

I think I'll write Remington and ask for such a load.

Posted: 9/13/2005 7:01:50 PM EDT

[#16]

They make the LE Remmy in a slug?

Posted: 9/13/2005 8:31:09 PM EDT

[#17]

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They make the LE Remmy in a slug?

YES. same as what they call managed recoil in the regular catalog.

http://www.remingtonle.com/ammo/ss_rrs.htm

http://www.remington.com/ammo/shotshell/managedrecoil_slugger.htm

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