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Posted: 6/7/2002 11:59:02 PM EST
I got into a discussion with FRIZ about rifles--he likes the 16" DSA Carbine I have over the full length rifle.

So, I thought I'd throw up a poll (since I'm bored at work right now).

AR-15s:  Do you like the longer barrel or the shorter barrel.

I also have a tendency to like the shorter barrel guns for their quicker handling.  I know you give up some velocity with the shorter barrel, but it definitely seems to handle better for me.  
Link Posted: 6/8/2002 12:04:01 AM EST
For target/precise shooting I like the 20", but its got Ray Vin weights so its like 16 lbs. or so, kind of heavy.  For plinking and general fun I like my 16" M4, its light and fast.
Link Posted: 6/8/2002 1:19:25 AM EST

Link Posted: 6/8/2002 2:49:01 AM EST
I voted 20". I don't need the 16 because I"m not planning on clearing any buildings. I want a rifle that has some 'reach' to it and the 20 does that better.
Link Posted: 6/8/2002 4:14:06 AM EST
Didn't vote, cause I've got 'em both, and love 'em both.  Actually, I've got an SP1 set up as an XM177E2 clone, w/ an 11 1/2" barrel and a welded on duplicate of the original suppressor, a 20" heavy barrel in the A2 configuration, and am in the middle of building an M4gery w/a 16" barrel.  For punching holes in paper, definitely the 20", but for toting in the field, popping tin cans and such,  short barrel every time.  There's really no problem here----just get, or build, at least one of each
Link Posted: 6/8/2002 4:54:41 AM EST
I really like my 16" AR carbines (bith of which are shorter than 16", and have fixed muzzle breaks to meet the length limits, 16.6" with a Mini-Y on one, 16.1" with a CavComp on the other).

That being said, a .308 like the FAL I prefer the longer barrel. The velocity difference between a 16: and a standard 21" is quite a bit, and when I handled your DSA at the BRC, it didn't seem to handle any better than my StG-58 with muzzle break (about a 23" OAL). The weight difference wasn't noticable.

Link Posted: 6/8/2002 4:58:33 AM EST
For target shooting I like my 20", for plinking I like the carbine. Like someone else already said, get both
Link Posted: 6/8/2002 6:12:36 AM EST
What's 'ya gonna do with it?

If you're looking for a weapon the 14.5-16" is about the best compromise between handling speed and velocity IMHO.

If you're looking for a target rig look at the 24" barrels to wring that last few dozen feet per second from the cartridge.

I had some in all sizes ...

Link Posted: 6/8/2002 6:36:56 AM EST
Nice collection of logs!!!
Link Posted: 6/8/2002 6:45:39 AM EST
i split the diference,i like an 18in barrel.
Link Posted: 6/8/2002 6:56:44 AM EST

Nice collection of logs!!!

Ha!  I must admit, that's a fine collection of firewood!
Link Posted: 6/8/2002 8:12:04 AM EST
If you have one --- 20".
If you have two --- 16" & 24".

I voted for the 20" because it is the "rifle".
16" is a "carbine" 'weapon' and 24" is a "target" 'shooter'.
Technically, the 20" is called a 'carbine', but in the general scheme of AR's, it's the 'rifle'.
Link Posted: 6/8/2002 10:35:17 AM EST
I have both, well 1 is a 14.5" with phantom M4 all Bushmaster and a 20" Colt SP1, I would say my choice would be the carbine over the rifle due to size and weight differance. If I needed to be accurate at long distance I would take along my Remington LTR and throw my carbine over my shoulder for when they get close.
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