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Posted: 7/30/2005 2:37:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/30/2005 2:37:48 PM EDT by 82ndAbn]
I've got a Colt AR15, I like it, but I want something old school, heavy with a lot of power. So it brings me to an M1A. I'm looking at one of the Springfield Standards with composite stock, I'm looking for suggestions. I'm not paying money for a match sub moa @1000 yards rifle, so don't suggest the White Feather.

Or should I just get a new AR15 as well.

Unfortunately, I can't follow arfcom tradition of getting both.

What would one recommend?
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:36:24 AM EDT
get the FAL, mags are far less expensive than the M1a, just as accurate as the standard M1a, and an overall better value if you ask me.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:37:00 AM EDT
This is the wrong place to ask...

(AR15.com)

Go to the M1A armory forum and you would get the same biased opinion...


I have a M1A and I would definately take one over any AR (Except for one that's full-auto )...


Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:40:33 AM EDT
the springfields reciever is cast, get a fal
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:43:06 AM EDT
FAL!
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:43:18 AM EDT
neither, get a FAL while you can.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:43:39 AM EDT
I have Ar's, FAL's, and M1A's--If I had to grab one and go it would be one of the FAL's.
But my only answer to a terrible dilemma like this was to get a couple of each.
If you do go the STANDARD M1A route, try to find one with a GI barrel
My 2 cents
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:43:44 AM EDT
I love my springfield M1A. Like you said, you'll get another AR15 down the road. (like I did) but I really enjoy having an M1A in my closet. A lot of fun to shoot, no offense - but I thought it was more fun than the FALs that I shot. That's why I chose it.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:52:54 AM EDT
AR10, or FAL. Or a rifle bult on one of these forged M14 receivers.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:54:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/30/2005 9:55:10 AM EDT by pv74]
Get the M1A.

I have a loaded Springfield that I bought years ago. Never had a problem with it.
The sights on an M1A are much nicer than any FAL that I have ever shot.
I would take an M14 style rifle over an FAL anyday.

As for the mags, you can buy them cheap now that the assault weapons ban is gone.

I am giving serious thought to the LRB arms one with the forged reciever and all USGI parts.
Sounds like a sweet rifle

Anyhow, start with the Fulton Armory to read up on the M1A:
www.fulton-armory.com/

Go here to buy M14 mags for cheap:
www.ammoman.com/

You wont go wrong with Fulton Armory or The Ammo Man.
Top notch people to deal with

Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:54:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HK_Shooter_03:
This is the wrong place to ask...

(AR15.com)




Aparently not, as the majority so far has recommended an FAL.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 9:57:15 AM EDT
I would go with a FAL. It's a good reliable weapon, and the mags are much cheaper than the M1A. The rifle itself is generally cheaper too.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 10:02:15 AM EDT
If you are going on the cheap, I'd have to say get the Fal.

I own ARs, M1As and Fals. In all honesty, the Fals do just as good a job as the M1As, I just have a thing for the M1/M1A.

My two cents.


Sheep
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 10:03:38 AM EDT
DSA STG58 blows the SA M1A's out of the water in my opinion.

And it even comes with a bi-pod!

Link Posted: 7/30/2005 10:05:23 AM EDT
You know...you could get a CMP M1 Garand and be just as happy...
You would own a peice of history, while spending less money.

www.odcmp.com
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 10:07:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
DSA STG58 blows the SA M1A's out of the water in my opinion.

And it even comes with a bi-pod!

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Nuh uh! SA M1A blows the STG58 out of the water!
plus chicks dig it.

Link Posted: 7/30/2005 10:07:24 AM EDT
Since you already have a Colt AR-15, why not step up to a .308 and seriously look at a M14/M1A.
Besides you will still have your Colt, so why get another at this point, if you want tp upgrade your collection
I myself am not a real big fan of Springfield Armory Inc, but it is one that can fill the void when looking for a .30 caliber platform

I have a LRB M14SA and would recommend it to anyone. I have heard great reviews about Fulton Armory's M14
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 10:07:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
get the FAL, mags are far less expensive than the M1a, just as accurate as the standard M1a, and an overall better value if you ask me.



+1

Link Posted: 7/30/2005 10:16:11 AM EDT
Fal, hands down winner. Mags are $5 too.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 10:27:35 AM EDT
That's one thing I've noticed, why the hell are M1A mags so expensive?
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 10:27:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By steve-oh:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
DSA STG58 blows the SA M1A's out of the water in my opinion.

And it even comes with a bi-pod!

img171.exs.cx/img171/1711/orcrist7ii.jpg



Nuh uh! SA M1A blows the STG58 out of the water!
plus chicks dig it.
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i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/gemdancer0/3.jpg



Shouldn't she shoot with her eyes open? That's how I was taught anyway.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 10:27:46 AM EDT
I say fal also, far greater range of ammo you can shoot with the adjustable gas port. I got one a few weeks ago and it is more accurate then I am. Or get a Garand, and shoot cheap also.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 10:30:01 AM EDT
It has to be an AR.15.

It's not M1A.com or Pie.com. I wouldn't mind joining Pie.com.

Colt_SBR
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 10:31:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Colt_SBR:
It has to be an AR.15.

It's not M1A.com or Pie.com. I wouldn't mind joining Pie.com.

Colt_SBR



Good luck getting through the .spam, .virus and .adware

Stick to the hun.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 10:32:45 AM EDT
I vote Garand. Mine is the one rifle that I will not part with.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 10:33:01 AM EDT
7.5 pages
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 10:44:04 AM EDT
get a rack grade CMP M1 (about $300) and convert it to .308...then get the AR15
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 10:47:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AZ-Dave:
If you do go the STANDARD M1A route, try to find one with a GI barrel
My 2 cents



Good advice. But right now, FALs are probably the best value. Getting an M1A built off of USGI parts and the required 15-20 magazines is cost prohibitive now.

But I would never sell my M1A.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 10:50:17 AM EDT
AR10

308 power plus it's a better accuracy platform than an M14.
If you go the AR10-A2 route, it comes with better sights than either the FAL or the M14.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 12:58:12 PM EDT
FAL(s) all the way.

M1A- no pistol grip, no thanks.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 1:08:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lon_Moer:
FAL(s) all the way.

M1A- no pistol grip, no thanks.




No What ??????

Look again



Link Posted: 7/30/2005 1:10:34 PM EDT
M1a
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 1:21:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/30/2005 1:24:33 PM EDT by SWO_daddy]

Originally Posted By junebug68:
I would go with a FAL. It's a good reliable weapon, and the mags are much cheaper than the M1A. The rifle itself is generally cheaper too.



You can easily find surplus Taiwanese GI mags (every bit as good as USGI) for $14 each. Yeah, I know that's still X2 what FAL mags are, but still it is hardly expensive.

Get an M1A, you won't regret it. I have an AR and an M1, next on the list is an M1903A3 and an M14 clone.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 1:23:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pv74:
You know...you could get a CMP M1 Garand and be just as happy...
You would own a peice of history, while spending less money.

www.odcmp.com



Agree, get a Garand first. Get the real McCoy before they are gone.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 2:10:50 PM EDT
I recommend a semi-automatic only M14 type rifle but that's no surprise.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 2:16:56 PM EDT
AFRCOM seems off lately...

GET BOTH!
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 3:12:51 PM EDT
Neither....get an AR-10


Better sights and ergonomics than the FAL


You don't have to worry about buying parts for it to bring it up to speed like you would have to with a new M1A.
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 4:45:24 PM EDT
Before the thread was moved there was a poll... poll coming!
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 5:33:58 PM EDT
After 3 votes, it is clear that the overwhelming choice is the FAL, by a margin of 2:1
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 5:42:37 PM EDT
2 pages 5 votes
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 5:54:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Painter:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
get the FAL, mags are far less expensive than the M1a, just as accurate as the standard M1a, and an overall better value if you ask me.



+1

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wow
Link Posted: 7/30/2005 6:05:24 PM EDT
I've got all 3.

I like my M1A best!

an FAL is a nice MBR, and it's in 7.62 so I "obligated" to own it.

next on my list is a CETME and HK (detect a theme?)
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 1:58:15 AM EDT




Originally Posted By dpmmn:

Originally Posted By Lon_Moer:
FAL(s) all the way.

M1A- no pistol grip, no thanks.




No What ??????

Look again

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t.com/albums/0703/Law483/LAW483%20Rifle%20Stocks/LAW483%20M21E2%20Stock/Dsc00822.jpg






Hey...where did you get that stock...???

Hmmm...now you have me thinking...

I need a new gun when I get back from Korea..
I could take my old M1A and give it a nice new stock..
and have LRB build me a nice new match gun

Decisions decisions...
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 7:00:20 AM EDT
Get a percision AR15 upper for the rifle you have, it'll be cheaper and you won't have to familirize yourself on an entire new platform. It will able to reach out and touch targets with ease, while not at 1,000 yards like the .308.


You could stockpile on one type of ammo for your battle rifle, and a percision round for your DMR. But in the end you could use either types of ammo in either rifle, plus you could use the same magazines, and parts.


Link Posted: 7/31/2005 7:23:43 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 3:44:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TacticalMan:
AR10

308 power plus it's a better accuracy platform than an M14.
If you go the AR10-A2 route, it comes with better sights than either the FAL or the M14.



And, it's sufficiently similar to the AR15 you already have that maintaining it will be simple. You already "know" the weapon.
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 8:16:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/31/2005 8:18:18 PM EDT by MisterPX]
I had an M1A and a FAL. I sold off the M1A. Why? I like the pistol grip firing position, and I wasn't about to spend hundreds of $$ for a Sage, etc. stock. Basically, since I got my FAL, I haven't shot the M1A.

Also, since you haven't specified primary duties of the rifle, it's kind of hard for me to vote.
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 8:29:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By buddysblackrifle:

Originally Posted By Painter:

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wow



You like?
Link Posted: 7/31/2005 9:18:49 PM EDT
While I much prefer the M14 type to the FAL , I'd say buy a FAL now since it's going to be harder and harder to find a lower priced FAL in the future with all this ATF bs of late.You'll be able to buy M14 clones for many moons to come.
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