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Posted: 9/22/2011 1:13:29 PM EST
i know im a bit of an odd ball reloading 7.62x39 but does any body know of a good powder to try, played around with RL#7 but, looking for something else, got a deal on 1000 pcs brass and 1500 projectiles i need to load up, a surplus powder would be good
Link Posted: 9/22/2011 1:35:42 PM EST
I have been using H335 with data off Hodgdon web site. Works well in my AR never tried any of my loads in an AK.
Link Posted: 9/22/2011 1:49:52 PM EST
I have found WC844 is the most accurate I have tried in a 20' Colt 7.62x39 upper. Before that I had good luck with A1680.This is with some bulk 123 grain soft points I picked up from Wideners a few years ago.
Link Posted: 9/22/2011 3:55:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2011 3:59:00 PM EST by Morning_Wood]
I've been playing with 7.62X39 for many years. As far as I am concerned, Accurate 1680 is the only powder I will ever use in standard loading for this caliber.
Link Posted: 9/22/2011 4:21:11 PM EST
AA1680, it was developed for 762x39
Link Posted: 9/22/2011 4:25:32 PM EST
AA 1680 is good for lighter bullets 123gr or less. VV N-120 is great for bullets 123gr or less. H-322, VV N-130 and H-4198 are good for bullets 125-135gr.
Link Posted: 9/22/2011 6:11:36 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/22/2011 6:21:03 PM EST
Originally Posted By dryflash3:
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/550/P1180130.jpg

AA-1680 is the standard, as it was designed for the 7.62x39.

Other powder will work, BLC2, H-335,and IMR-3031.

The problem with them is you will run out of case capacity before reaching top velocities.

AA-1680 fills the case without compression like the above powders and also makes accurate loads.

I load 147 gr FMJ (like in the pic) with AA-1680 as well as 125 gr bullets.




Correct, enter VV N-120. The perfect burn rate for the X39 and much more consistent and accurate than 1680.
Link Posted: 9/23/2011 4:47:18 AM EST
Wideners has #846 on sale for $94 per #8 jug.

It should work fine.
Link Posted: 9/23/2011 12:08:43 PM EST
A general query: What source can you recommend for 7.62x39 brass?
Link Posted: 9/23/2011 12:24:36 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/23/2011 2:52:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By willstill:
Wideners has #846 on sale for $94 per #8 jug.

It should work fine.
While it will work, I don't think you'll be happy with the performance of WC846 or WC844 in this caliber

Link Posted: 9/23/2011 2:54:57 PM EST
I load 7.62x39 with IMR4198.
Link Posted: 9/23/2011 4:27:02 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/23/2011 4:30:12 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/23/2011 4:52:52 PM EST
Whats that bullet, Dryflash?
Link Posted: 9/23/2011 6:12:47 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/24/2011 2:27:26 AM EST
Originally Posted By dryflash3:
That's a plated .311, 125 gr with a HP.

Guy was selling them at the funshow in unmarked plastic bags for $10 per 100. So I picked up a couple bags.

Loaded them with the start load, going to the range tomorrow.



Range report please
Link Posted: 9/24/2011 3:57:36 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/24/2011 4:23:49 PM EST
I use H-4198 and H-322. Hornady 123 grain SP bullets or Sierra's 125 grain Pro Hunter .311".
Link Posted: 9/24/2011 4:38:07 PM EST
honest question for those of yall that are handloading 7.62x39 in platforms more accurate than the AK, like the guy with a 20" colt AR....


Am i correct in assuming that 7.62x39 is capable of the same accuracy at 100-200 yards as any other common caliber like 556 or 308?

I know that the AK platform isnt exactly a MOA precision platform but im wondering if the bad accuracy rap from AK's comes from just the gun, or the gun and the mass produced steel cased russian ammo...

basically show me some tight assed 7.62x39 groupings out of yalls custom rigs!
Link Posted: 9/24/2011 8:05:35 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/25/2011 5:18:15 AM EST
Originally Posted By hkusp9:
honest question for those of yall that are handloading 7.62x39 in platforms more accurate than the AK, like the guy with a 20" colt AR....


Am i correct in assuming that 7.62x39 is capable of the same accuracy at 100-200 yards as any other common caliber like 556 or 308?

I know that the AK platform isnt exactly a MOA precision platform but im wondering if the bad accuracy rap from AK's comes from just the gun, or the gun and the mass produced steel cased russian ammo...

basically show me some tight assed 7.62x39 groupings out of yalls custom rigs!


Armalite 16inch 7.62x39.
Fire rounds 100 yards


Ruger Mini-30 ASI Conversion, .308 bore
27gr AA 2015
130gr Speer HP
20 rounds 100 yards.


Ruger Mini-30 ASI Conversion
five rounds 100 yards


Link Posted: 9/25/2011 6:04:26 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/25/2011 3:52:34 PM EST
Originally Posted By dryflash3:
Originally Posted By steve4102:
Originally Posted By hkusp9:
honest question for those of yall that are handloading 7.62x39 in platforms more accurate than the AK, like the guy with a 20" colt AR....


Am i correct in assuming that 7.62x39 is capable of the same accuracy at 100-200 yards as any other common caliber like 556 or 308?

I know that the AK platform isnt exactly a MOA precision platform but im wondering if the bad accuracy rap from AK's comes from just the gun, or the gun and the mass produced steel cased russian ammo...

basically show me some tight assed 7.62x39 groupings out of yalls custom rigs!


Armalite 16inch 7.62x39.
Fire rounds 100 yards
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/steve4102/AR762.jpg

Ruger Mini-30 ASI Conversion, .308 bore
27gr AA 2015
130gr Speer HP
20 rounds 100 yards.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/steve4102/5-1.jpg

Ruger Mini-30 ASI Conversion
five rounds 100 yards
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/steve4102/2015-1-1.jpg



Nice shooting.

My Ak won't do that at 25 yds.

I need the Red Jacket 1000 yd mod for mine.



thanks for the update !!! hmm so you want a 308 not instead of a 7.62x39..
Link Posted: 9/25/2011 4:38:34 PM EST
In response to hkusp9: Check out the video on you tube of a AR and a AK in slow motion.You will be amazed at the amount of barrel whip on the AK.
Link Posted: 9/25/2011 4:58:49 PM EST
Originally Posted By cviss:
Originally Posted By dryflash3:
Originally Posted By steve4102:
Originally Posted By hkusp9:
honest question for those of yall that are handloading 7.62x39 in platforms more accurate than the AK, like the guy with a 20" colt AR....


Am i correct in assuming that 7.62x39 is capable of the same accuracy at 100-200 yards as any other common caliber like 556 or 308?

I know that the AK platform isnt exactly a MOA precision platform but im wondering if the bad accuracy rap from AK's comes from just the gun, or the gun and the mass produced steel cased russian ammo...

basically show me some tight assed 7.62x39 groupings out of yalls custom rigs!


Armalite 16inch 7.62x39.
Fire rounds 100 yards
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/steve4102/AR762.jpg

Ruger Mini-30 ASI Conversion, .308 bore
27gr AA 2015
130gr Speer HP
20 rounds 100 yards.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/steve4102/5-1.jpg

Ruger Mini-30 ASI Conversion
five rounds 100 yards
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/steve4102/2015-1-1.jpg



Nice shooting.

My Ak won't do that at 25 yds.

I need the Red Jacket 1000 yd mod for mine.



thanks for the update !!! hmm so you want a 308 not instead of a 7.62x39..


7.62x39 chamber with a bore of .308 inches instead of the foreign bore of .310-.311 inches.

Link Posted: 9/26/2011 3:35:31 AM EST
Steve i was referring to Dryflash's comment about a 1000 yard Red Jacket AK . The 1000 yard rifle is a modified Saiga rifle in .308 not 7.62x39.
Link Posted: 9/26/2011 6:28:55 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/26/2011 6:29:41 AM EST by SigMan87]
thank for all the input the 1680 seems to get alot of support ill try that, and for the guy looking for brass i found a local guy whose brother taught an AK class I picked up 1000 pieces of boxer brass and 1500 pulled projectiles for 120.00 if you want i can call him up and see if he has any more
Link Posted: 9/26/2011 7:56:19 AM EST
Originally Posted By SigMan87:
thank for all the input the 1680 seems to get alot of support ill try that, and for the guy looking for brass i found a local guy whose brother taught an AK class I picked up 1000 pieces of boxer brass and 1500 pulled projectiles for 120.00 if you want i can call him up and see if he has any more


yes please do
Link Posted: 9/26/2011 11:02:03 AM EST
hes out of town, should be back soon though ill give him a call and post his let you know if hes got any around
Link Posted: 9/26/2011 5:35:09 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/26/2011 6:48:05 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/27/2011 2:17:18 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/27/2011 2:18:50 AM EST by res45]
All my groups are slightly dated,haven't shot at a public range in some time,most of my shooting is done in my backyard nowadays but here are a few hand loads I worked up for my SKS rifles.



Link Posted: 9/27/2011 7:43:47 AM EST
Sierra 674016, 180 Grain, .311, Winchester 748 16.3 Grains, Rifle Primers, Winchester 7.62x39 brass.

This load cycles my Colt 7.62x39 AR-15 yet stays subsonic using my SAS supressor....

Dan
Link Posted: 9/27/2011 10:14:29 AM EST
Dryflash i figured that i was just busting your stones ... and price is pretty steep to boot.
Link Posted: 9/27/2011 4:55:50 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 4:09:21 PM EST
Does anybody have a good safe load for loading the 7.62 NATO M62 tracers into the -39? I've got a bunch of them on hand and have seen them before, but I can't locate any info on loads. I've thought of buying some of the .30 carbine tracer and trying them, since they might not be quite as long as the M62's. Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 5:52:21 PM EST
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