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Posted: 2/4/2016 9:26:42 AM EDT
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I'm using 23 grns. of Alliant Reloder 15, CCI 400 primers, LC cases.
Max load for this powder is listed as 24.1. I started at 22 gr w/ no problems. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 9:38:33 AM EDT
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Thank you!
What is your COAL? Any accurate loads for TAC or IMR4064 with this? I have tons of both. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 10:42:31 AM EDT
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Working on an 8208-XBR load. Nice node around 21 grains that I'm exploring, and another around 23.5 or so. Using WCC brass and Wolf primers.
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Posted: 2/4/2016 11:11:14 AM EDT
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XBR has given the best results so far. Book Max is 23.2 IIRC. A lot of people find happiness around 23.4 gr and a mild primer (Think Wolf SRM, Fed 205M, or CCI 400). Be careful and work up for your gun, it will tell you what it likes.
Load to mag length 2.25. I imagine either of the powders you listed will work. I like TAC a lot, work up to around 23.5 gr. there is usually a node somewhere between 23 and 23.5 gr where things come together. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 1:31:19 PM EDT
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I worked up a load using lc brass, cci 450 primer, and 8208 xbr.
I started at 22.6 and went up at .1 grain intervals all the way to 23.5. 23.5 grains gave me a .60 load that has stayed in that range for approx 3-5 months now. The chrono readings were 2650 fps. The cases look good not beat up and no flattened primers or extractor swipes |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 5:23:45 PM EDT
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Thanks guys. I'll start with 22.0 of TAC at 2.26" and work up from there. If that doesn't work I'll look at other powders.
What is the maximum length that will fit in a magazine? |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 5:42:43 PM EDT
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I worked up a load using lc brass, cci 450 primer, and 8208 xbr. I started at 22.6 and went up at .1 grain intervals all the way to 23.5. 23.5 grains gave me a .60 load that has stayed in that range for approx 3-5 months now. The chrono readings were 2650 fps. The cases look good not beat up and no flattened primers or extractor swipes Quote HistoryQuoted:
I worked up a load using lc brass, cci 450 primer, and 8208 xbr. I started at 22.6 and went up at .1 grain intervals all the way to 23.5. 23.5 grains gave me a .60 load that has stayed in that range for approx 3-5 months now. The chrono readings were 2650 fps. The cases look good not beat up and no flattened primers or extractor swipes What barrel length? I have a bunch I need to load up for my DM Course back-up and demo guns. Quoted:
Thanks guys. I'll start with 22.0 of TAC at 2.26" and work up from there. If that doesn't work I'll look at other powders. What is the maximum length that will fit in a magazine? Depends on what magazine you use. I have some little 5 or 10rd CProducts mags that wouldn't allow anything over 2.250" COL, whereas some other mags (NHMTG) will allow 2.275" with clearance to ride. Best to start with what the chamber will allow and back off from there, taking the mag COL allowable into consideration afterwards. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 7:25:37 PM EDT
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What barrel length? I have a bunch I need to load up for my DM Course back-up and demo guns. Depends on what magazine you use. I have some little 5 or 10rd CProducts mags that wouldn't allow anything over 2.250" COL, whereas some other mags (NHMTG) will allow 2.275" with clearance to ride. Best to start with what the chamber will allow and back off from there, taking the mag COL allowable into consideration afterwards. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I worked up a load using lc brass, cci 450 primer, and 8208 xbr. I started at 22.6 and went up at .1 grain intervals all the way to 23.5. 23.5 grains gave me a .60 load that has stayed in that range for approx 3-5 months now. The chrono readings were 2650 fps. The cases look good not beat up and no flattened primers or extractor swipes What barrel length? I have a bunch I need to load up for my DM Course back-up and demo guns. Quoted:
Thanks guys. I'll start with 22.0 of TAC at 2.26" and work up from there. If that doesn't work I'll look at other powders. What is the maximum length that will fit in a magazine? Depends on what magazine you use. I have some little 5 or 10rd CProducts mags that wouldn't allow anything over 2.250" COL, whereas some other mags (NHMTG) will allow 2.275" with clearance to ride. Best to start with what the chamber will allow and back off from there, taking the mag COL allowable into consideration afterwards. My chrono readings were with an 18 inch barrel |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 7:35:28 PM EDT
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Any H4895/Varget loads? I'm thinking about starting at 22gr.
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Posted: 2/4/2016 8:09:29 PM EDT
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I'm shooting 23.0 of Varget, behind the 77TMK, with prepped LC brass, and a CCI-400 primer; I seated them at 2.25. I was getting roughly .6-.8 groups at 100 with that load, and scored 19 out of 20 hits on a 10" gong at 700 yards last weekend in 10-15mph wind.
Seems to work pretty well in my rifle. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 9:00:05 PM EDT
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My favorite load is:
23.2 gr XBR 8208 Prepped LC brass Rem 7.5 primer Sub MOA out of an 18 in Douglas 1-7" barrel, chronographs at 2620 fps. |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 9:53:25 PM EDT
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I suppose I should have mentioned this is out of a 20" Krieger with a .223 Wylde chamber.
Does that make any difference on COAL, charges, etc? |
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Posted: 2/4/2016 10:25:35 PM EDT
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I suppose I should have mentioned this is out of a 20" Krieger with a .223 Wylde chamber. Does that make any difference on COAL, charges, etc? No. Your max length is likely 2.260 unless you're single feeding rounds. Charge weight doesn't really vary *that much* by chamber. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 2:25:22 AM EDT
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23gr Varget @ 2.25 works for me. I think I tried another group with 23.3gr and groups opened up a bit, but I might give it another go in the spring and work up to find my max.
Crunchy crunchy.  |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 12:20:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any H4895/Varget loads? I'm thinking about starting at 22gr. Fed 205 25g Varget (compressed) TMK seated to 2.255" 2660 2643 fps from my 16" Mod H. <---Edit velocity |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 12:46:15 PM EDT
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LC/WCC brassFed 205 25g Varget (compressed) TMK seated to 2.255" 2660 fps from my 16" Mod H. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any H4895/Varget loads? I'm thinking about starting at 22gr. 25g Varget (compressed) TMK seated to 2.255" 2660 fps from my 16" Mod H. That's freaking hot. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 1:33:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's freaking hot. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Any H4895/Varget loads? I'm thinking about starting at 22gr. 25g Varget (compressed) TMK seated to 2.255" 2660 fps from my 16" Mod H. That's freaking hot. I was testing that particular load with the TMKs. I use that same load with the slick SMKs and get 2660 fps. It gives me 2347 fps (TMKs) out of my 10.5" WOA barrel. I haven't tested the SMKs in the 10.5", but I imagine it will yield roughly the same. Believe it or not, but I got the recipe from HP guys. They actually use 25.3g, but use BR primers. I have yet to find small CCI BRs locally to test with this load. I have a theory that compressed Varget loads yield better SD/ES with the CCI BRs. It's proven out in my 308 loads. I'm thinking the lower burn from the BR primers gives a better overall burn for compressed Varget. My theory at least. I've been trying to find other guys that have run the same loads, but you know how that goes.  |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 7:26:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's freaking hot. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LC/WCC brassFed 205 25g Varget (compressed) TMK seated to 2.255" 2660 fps from my 16" Mod H. That's freaking hot. Considering that 23.5gr H4895/24gr Varget is my max with a 75gr BTHP, agreed. I've got 22 and 22.5gr H4895 under TMKs at 2.255" I want to test later today. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 9:34:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm shooting 23.0 of Varget, behind the 77TMK, with prepped LC brass, and a CCI-400 primer; I seated them at 2.25. I was getting roughly .6-.8 groups at 100 with that load, and scored 19 out of 20 hits on a 10" gong at 700 yards last weekend in 10-15mph wind. <snip> Please don't post those in this forum. dryflash3 |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 9:39:50 AM EDT
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That's freaking hot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any H4895/Varget loads? I'm thinking about starting at 22gr. 25g Varget (compressed) TMK seated to 2.255" 2660 fps from my 16" Mod H. That's freaking hot. Is it? My 69SMK load is 25.9gr of Varget, and my accurate 77SMK load was 24.5gr and zero pressure signs on either. Mk262 Mod1 makes 2733fps (avg) from a 16" barrel. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 8:19:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is it? My 69SMK load is 25.9gr of Varget, and my accurate 77SMK load was 24.5gr and zero pressure signs on either. Mk262 Mod1 makes 2733fps (avg) from a 16" barrel. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Any H4895/Varget loads? I'm thinking about starting at 22gr. 25g Varget (compressed) TMK seated to 2.255" 2660 fps from my 16" Mod H. That's freaking hot. Is it? My 69SMK load is 25.9gr of Varget, and my accurate 77SMK load was 24.5gr and zero pressure signs on either. Mk262 Mod1 makes 2733fps (avg) from a 16" barrel. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 9:46:19 PM EDT
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<snip> Please don't post those in this forum. dryflash3 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm shooting 23.0 of Varget, behind the 77TMK, with prepped LC brass, and a CCI-400 primer; I seated them at 2.25. I was getting roughly .6-.8 groups at 100 with that load, and scored 19 out of 20 hits on a 10" gong at 700 yards last weekend in 10-15mph wind. <snip> Please don't post those in this forum. dryflash3 Are you kidding me? Show me - in ANY of the forum rules - where posting a gif image in not allowed in THIS forum? Now - if it is posted - I'll eat my crow and apologize. My posting a gif congratulating another member on his technical acumen for being able to reload rounds consistent enough to make 19 out of 20 hits on a 1.5 MOA target at 700 yards is ENTIRELY appropriate. Unless of course, if there is a RULE that such things are not allowed. 
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:08:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you kidding me? Show me - in ANY of the forum rules - where posting a gif image in not allowed in THIS forum? Now - if it is posted - I'll eat my crow and apologize. My posting a gif congratulating another member on his technical acumen for being able to reload rounds consistent enough to make 19 out of 20 hits on a 1.5 MOA target at 700 yards is ENTIRELY appropriate. Unless of course, if there is a RULE that such things are not allowed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm shooting 23.0 of Varget, behind the 77TMK, with prepped LC brass, and a CCI-400 primer; I seated them at 2.25. I was getting roughly .6-.8 groups at 100 with that load, and scored 19 out of 20 hits on a 10" gong at 700 yards last weekend in 10-15mph wind. <snip> Please don't post those in this forum. dryflash3 Are you kidding me? Show me - in ANY of the forum rules - where posting a gif image in not allowed in THIS forum? Now - if it is posted - I'll eat my crow and apologize. My posting a gif congratulating another member on his technical acumen for being able to reload rounds consistent enough to make 19 out of 20 hits on a 1.5 MOA target at 700 yards is ENTIRELY appropriate. Unless of course, if there is a RULE that such things are not allowed. Pics need to be technical in nature in a Technical Forum like this one. This is not GD. SPECIFIC TO THE TECH FORUMS
The tech forums (Ar15,AK47,Handgun,Armory,Training,Outdoors) are more "formal" and actions permitted in the GD forum aren't permitted there. These forums are there to share information and as a result, trolling, heated arguments,insulting others,etc won't be ignored. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 10:03:46 AM EDT
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Pics need to be technical in nature in a Technical Forum like this one. This is not GD. SPECIFIC TO THE TECH FORUMS The tech forums (Ar15,AK47,Handgun,Armory,Training,Outdoors) are more "formal" and actions permitted in the GD forum aren't permitted there. These forums are there to share information and as a result, trolling, heated arguments,insulting others,etc won't be ignored. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm shooting 23.0 of Varget, behind the 77TMK, with prepped LC brass, and a CCI-400 primer; I seated them at 2.25. I was getting roughly .6-.8 groups at 100 with that load, and scored 19 out of 20 hits on a 10" gong at 700 yards last weekend in 10-15mph wind. <snip> Please don't post those in this forum. dryflash3 Are you kidding me? Show me - in ANY of the forum rules - where posting a gif image in not allowed in THIS forum? Now - if it is posted - I'll eat my crow and apologize. My posting a gif congratulating another member on his technical acumen for being able to reload rounds consistent enough to make 19 out of 20 hits on a 1.5 MOA target at 700 yards is ENTIRELY appropriate. Unless of course, if there is a RULE that such things are not allowed. Pics need to be technical in nature in a Technical Forum like this one. This is not GD. SPECIFIC TO THE TECH FORUMS The tech forums (Ar15,AK47,Handgun,Armory,Training,Outdoors) are more "formal" and actions permitted in the GD forum aren't permitted there. These forums are there to share information and as a result, trolling, heated arguments,insulting others,etc won't be ignored. As I thought. This is another made up, on the fly, undocumented rule. There was no trolling, heated argument, or insult. It was a compliment. Your role is to respond to the former, not the latter. Ok, thanks, I'll add it to my "undocumented dryflash3 made up rules only for this forum" list. 
Question: are the board emoticons ok, like I just used? They are images, and not technical in nature.... or are those banned as well?
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Posted: 2/7/2016 2:00:31 PM EDT
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Don't use the
either as this is a Technical Forum. Again this is not GD.As this thread was taken off topic, it's time to close it. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 2:00:49 PM EDT
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