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Posted: 10/11/2009 7:36:39 AM EST
Manual says 23.5-25.5 of Varget but these are expensive bullets and I don't want to waste a box of 50 working up a good load if anyone has a good suggested starting point maybe I can work up the load with half a box instead. Looking for accuracy here not top velocity unless they come together.

NM BCG, 5.56 chamber, 1:7 twist, DD 16" CL CMV barrel, midlength gas system is the gun spec's

Thanks,
EWP
Link Posted: 10/11/2009 8:41:19 AM EST
I have found that Varget shoots best for me at 25gr + , you can always pull the bullets & reuse the powder from the loads that are not accurate in your gun.
Link Posted: 10/11/2009 10:18:34 AM EST
Originally Posted By EWP:
Manual says 23.5-25.5 of Varget but these are expensive bullets and I don't want to waste a box of 50 working up a good load if anyone has a good suggested starting point maybe I can work up the load with half a box instead. Looking for accuracy here not top velocity unless they come together.

NM BCG, 5.56 chamber, 1:7 twist, DD 16" CL CMV barrel, midlength gas system is the gun spec's

Thanks,
EWP

My AR has the same specs and shoots a variety of factory loads very well. But I worked up a lot using the 62 gr. TSX and used Varget to charge 5 rounds each ranging from 23.5 - 25.5 in 0.5 gr. increments. None of them grouped worth a damn. (2.5" - 3.0" groups, consistently). I measured everything meticulously every step of the way, so I can't figure out if I did something wrong or if my rifle just hates TSX bullets for some reason. But to be sure, I bought a box of 70 gr. TSX and am going to give it another try just to see if that makes a difference.
Link Posted: 10/11/2009 11:47:24 AM EST
Originally Posted By Dan Parker:
Originally Posted By EWP:
Manual says 23.5-25.5 of Varget but these are expensive bullets and I don't want to waste a box of 50 working up a good load if anyone has a good suggested starting point maybe I can work up the load with half a box instead. Looking for accuracy here not top velocity unless they come together.

NM BCG, 5.56 chamber, 1:7 twist, DD 16" CL CMV barrel, mid length gas system is the gun spec's

Thanks,
EWP


My AR has the same specs and shoots a variety of factory loads very well. But I worked up a lot using the 62 gr. TSX and used Varget to charge 5 rounds each ranging from 23.5 - 25.5 in 0.5 gr. increments. None of them grouped worth a damn. (2.5" - 3.0" groups, consistently). I measured everything meticulously every step of the way, so I can't figure out if I did something wrong or if my rifle just hates TSX bullets for some reason. But to be sure, I bought a box of 70 gr. TSX and am going to give it another try just to see if that makes a difference.


That sounds like the Armscor 62gr bullets I have, they shoot patterns instead of groups. I've tried H335 and BL-C2 with no luck at all but haven't given up completely since I haven't tried an extruded powder with them yet since my gun shoots 55 gr Hornady FMJBT they same way with 25gr of H335 that everyone else loves but with 25 gr's of Benchmark they shoot MOA or better.

I loaded 20rds of the 62gr TSX with 25gr of Varget @ ~2.250" (I use a comparator for measurement so the OAL are different on some of them) in once fired WCC NATO brass to see how they do, I also have 100 of the 70gr TSX to try if the 62gr's don't work out. Damn these Barnes bullets are expensive at over $30 for just 50 bullets, I hate to waste them all just trying to work up a good load or find out my gun doesn't like them.
Link Posted: 10/11/2009 1:09:22 PM EST
The 62 grain TSX bullets are capable of excellent accuracy. The 10-shot group pictured below was fired from an AR-15 at a distance of 100 yards. Varget is just not the best choice of powders for this bullet.

Link Posted: 10/11/2009 1:46:54 PM EST
I got the 75s and they didn't like varget either. I'm going to try a load up with TAC, maybe this weekend. I was pretty surprised since a lot of reviews on midway are claiming great accuracy.
Link Posted: 10/11/2009 3:10:35 PM EST
Originally Posted By Molon:
The 62 grain TSX bullets are capable of excellent accuracy. The 10-shot group pictured below was fired from an AR-15 at a distance of 100 yards. Varget is just not the best choice of powders for this bullet.

The bummer is that I bought Varget because the Barnes manual cited it as the most accurate in the loading data for the 62 gr. TSX.
Link Posted: 10/11/2009 3:45:57 PM EST
Originally Posted By Molon:
The 62 grain TSX bullets are capable of excellent accuracy. The 10-shot group pictured below was fired from an AR-15 at a distance of 100 yards. Varget is just not the best choice of powders for this bullet.

http://www.box.net/shared/static/8ybojjxv1b.jpg


Well what powder did you use? You just gonna leave me in suspense and keep it a secret?
Link Posted: 10/12/2009 4:42:54 PM EST
Originally Posted By EWP:
Originally Posted By Molon:
The 62 grain TSX bullets are capable of excellent accuracy. The 10-shot group pictured below was fired from an AR-15 at a distance of 100 yards. Varget is just not the best choice of powders for this bullet.

http://www.box.net/shared/static/8ybojjxv1b.jpg


Well what powder did you use? You just gonna leave me in suspense and keep it a secret?


Also interested.

Just curious though. I got moa with 25 gr varget. 1/9 20" Rock River Coyote. That was good enough For what I wanted it for.
Link Posted: 10/13/2009 1:32:09 AM EST
Originally Posted By cityboy172:
Originally Posted By EWP:
Originally Posted By Molon:
The 62 grain TSX bullets are capable of excellent accuracy. The 10-shot group pictured below was fired from an AR-15 at a distance of 100 yards. Varget is just not the best choice of powders for this bullet.

http://www.box.net/shared/static/8ybojjxv1b.jpg


Well what powder did you use? You just gonna leave me in suspense and keep it a secret?


Also interested.

Just curious though. I got moa with 25 gr varget. 1/9 20" Rock River Coyote. That was good enough For what I wanted it for.


Yeah. Dang Molon! Give it up.

I have gotten best results with 25.5 grains of Varget. Out of a 1:9 twist barrel I can get 5 shots inside 3/4 inch at 100 yards. Incidentally, I have given up on the 70 grain TSXs out of a 1:8 barrel using BLC(2) and Varget. About 2.5" is the best I can get. The same barrel will put five 75 grain Scirroccos in .6 inches with 24.0 grains of Varget.
Link Posted: 10/14/2009 4:37:43 AM EST
I've never messed with solids, but I've read that they are more finicky about seating depth than lead core bullets.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 5:54:41 PM EST
I'm going tomorrow to try out the 62 grain min to max loads in .05 increments at the range tomorrow morning. I'll post results.


I loaded up 50 rounds in .05 increments and will shoot 5 round groups out of a heavy barrel 1/9 16" RRA upper with RRA lower and NM trigger. Using a 4x14x40 Mueller ATV scope. I'll be shooting the other 5 round groups out of a Colt HBAR Match Target with a 20" 1/7 Colt heavy barrel and a 4x20 scope.

Going to sight each scope in at 25 yards and hope to hit a bit high at 100 so I can me back dead on at the 200 yard range for deer season.

Link Posted: 11/3/2009 6:22:54 PM EST
Originally Posted By EWP:
Originally Posted By Molon:
The 62 grain TSX bullets are capable of excellent accuracy. The 10-shot group pictured below was fired from an AR-15 at a distance of 100 yards. Varget is just not the best choice of powders for this bullet.

http://www.box.net/shared/static/8ybojjxv1b.jpg


Well what powder did you use? You just gonna leave me in suspense and keep it a secret?


Here ya go.





Link Posted: 11/3/2009 6:26:12 PM EST
Originally Posted By walther1978:


Going to sight each scope in at 25 yards and hope to hit a bit high at 100 so I can me back dead on at the 200 yard range for deer season.



If you're saying that you are going to zero for point of aim equals point of impact at 25 yards, then you're going to be way high at 100 yards and even higher at 200 yards.



Link Posted: 11/3/2009 6:40:59 PM EST
Originally Posted By Molon:
Originally Posted By walther1978:


Going to sight each scope in at 25 yards and hope to hit a bit high at 100 so I can me back dead on at the 200 yard range for deer season.



If you're saying that you are going to zero for point of aim equals point of impact at 25 yards, then you're going to be way high at 100 yards and even higher at 200 yards.

http://www.box.net/shared/static/62g1fefxa4.jpg




What do you suggest to sight it in at? I was figuring to get the windage dead on at 25, then play with the elevation at 100 to knock it down a bit but want to be dead on at 200 yards, though I don't have a range that I can shoot 200 with.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 6:58:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/3/2009 6:58:37 PM EST by Molon]
Originally Posted By walther1978:
Originally Posted By Molon:
Originally Posted By walther1978:


Going to sight each scope in at 25 yards and hope to hit a bit high at 100 so I can me back dead on at the 200 yard range for deer season.



If you're saying that you are going to zero for point of aim equals point of impact at 25 yards, then you're going to be way high at 100 yards and even higher at 200 yards.

http://www.box.net/shared/static/62g1fefxa4.jpg




What do you suggest to sight it in at? I was figuring to get the windage dead on at 25, then play with the elevation at 100 to knock it down a bit but want to be dead on at 200 yards, though I don't have a range that I can shoot 200 with.


Give the 50 yard zero a try.

Link Posted: 11/4/2009 1:28:29 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/4/2009 1:29:01 AM EST by bowslngr]
Originally Posted By Molon:
Originally Posted By EWP:
Originally Posted By Molon:
The 62 grain TSX bullets are capable of excellent accuracy. The 10-shot group pictured below was fired from an AR-15 at a distance of 100 yards. Varget is just not the best choice of powders for this bullet.

http://www.box.net/shared/static/8ybojjxv1b.jpg


Well what powder did you use? You just gonna leave me in suspense and keep it a secret?


Here ya go.

http://www.box.net/shared/static/aob2xlo80d.jpg





Now one of us bright bastards is going to be looking at all his powder under a magnifying glass trying to find the match.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 3:55:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/4/2009 3:56:19 AM EST by DanParker]
Originally Posted By Molon:
Originally Posted By walther1978:
What do you suggest to sight it in at? I was figuring to get the windage dead on at 25, then play with the elevation at 100 to knock it down a bit but want to be dead on at 200 yards, though I don't have a range that I can shoot 200 with.

Give the 50 yard zero a try.
http://www.box.net/shared/static/lkjcnq0kkk.jpg

According to that chart, if he wants to be dead on at 200 he needs to be about an inch low at 50, not zeroed at 50.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 11:18:20 AM EST
24 grains of Varget with the 62 grain bullet gave me a 5 round string of an inch an a half. If it wasn't for a flyer it'd have been half inch. 25 grains of Varget gave me an inch and a half group. 20 mph winds at the range, so I'm happy. I'll most likely be loading the 25 grains as I'd rather have the increased bullet speed than gain a half inch or so of accuracy.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 12:41:12 PM EST
Both of those charts are wrong, look at the scope height a 0 yards, most are at 1.5" and neither one of those charts are close to that.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 4:32:04 PM EST
With a scope height of 1.5" and a Velocity of 2,967 FPS(24" barrel) you would need to be .29" low at 25 yards to have a 200 yard zero, at 200 yards you would have a velocity of 2,357 FPS & 765 ft/lb of energy and a wind drift of 4.32"(10 MPH wind) based on the proposed data for the Barnes 62gr TSX.

Say you loose 100FPS per 2" of barrel that puts you at 2,567 FPS(16" barrel) and you would need to be .07(dead on) at 25 yards for a 200 yard zero, at 200 yards you would have a velocity of 2,008 FPS & 555 ft/lb of energy with a wind drift of 5.35"(10 MPH wind) based on the data proposed for the Barnes 62gr TSX.

Figured using Point Blank software and Data from Barnes Manual I have for this bullet.

Load Data
~~~~~~~~~

Name: .224 Cal, Barnes TSX, 62 grn
Ballistic Coeff: 0.287
Bullet Weight: 62
Velocity: 2567
Target Distance: 200
Scope Height: 1.500
Temperature: 70
Altitude: 200

Ballistic Data
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Range Elevation Velocity Energy ETA Drop Max Y 10mph Wind Deflect
0 yds -1.50 in 2567 fps 907 fpe 0.000 sec 0.00 in -1.50 in 0.00 in
25 yds 0.07 in 2493 fps 856 fpe 0.030 sec 0.17 in -0.56 in 0.08 in
50 yds 1.30 in 2420 fps 806 fpe 0.060 sec 0.68 in -0.43 in 0.26 in
75 yds 2.16 in 2348 fps 759 fpe 0.091 sec 1.56 in -0.19 in 0.65 in
100 yds 2.62 in 2278 fps 714 fpe 0.124 sec 2.85 in 0.15 in 1.24 in
125 yds 2.65 in 2209 fps 672 fpe 0.158 sec 4.56 in 0.61 in 2.01 in
150 yds 2.24 in 2141 fps 631 fpe 0.192 sec 6.71 in 1.19 in 2.96 in
175 yds 1.36 in 2074 fps 592 fpe 0.228 sec 9.33 in 1.92 in 4.07 in
200 yds -0.00 in 2008 fps 555 fpe 0.264 sec 12.43 in 2.79 in 5.35 in
225 yds -1.89 in 1944 fps 520 fpe 0.302 sec 16.06 in 3.83 in 6.85 in
250 yds -4.35 in 1880 fps 487 fpe 0.341 sec 20.26 in 5.04 in 8.56 in
275 yds -7.47 in 1819 fps 455 fpe 0.381 sec 25.12 in 6.47 in 10.58 in
300 yds -11.28 in 1759 fps 426 fpe 0.424 sec 30.68 in 8.13 in 12.88 in
325 yds -15.82 in 1700 fps 398 fpe 0.468 sec 36.96 in 10.02 in 15.44 in
350 yds -21.11 in 1643 fps 372 fpe 0.513 sec 43.99 in 12.18 in 18.25 in
375 yds -27.16 in 1588 fps 347 fpe 0.559 sec 51.77 in 14.60 in 21.28 in
400 yds -33.98 in 1534 fps 324 fpe 0.607 sec 60.34 in 17.30 in 24.53 in
425 yds -41.78 in 1481 fps 302 fpe 0.656 sec 69.88 in 20.34 in 28.11 in
450 yds -50.57 in 1431 fps 282 fpe 0.708 sec 80.41 in 23.74 in 31.99 in
475 yds -60.54 in 1384 fps 264 fpe 0.761 sec 92.13 in 27.56 in 36.26 in
500 yds -71.71 in 1338 fps 247 fpe 0.817 sec 105.04 in 31.81 in 40.87 in
525 yds -84.06 in 1295 fps 231 fpe 0.874 sec 119.13 in 36.49 in 45.77 in
550 yds -97.60 in 1254 fps 217 fpe 0.932 sec 134.41 in 41.62 in 50.92 in
575 yds -112.70 in 1216 fps 204 fpe 0.993 sec 151.25 in 47.31 in 56.48 in
600 yds -129.33 in 1181 fps 192 fpe 1.056 sec 169.62 in 53.55 in 62.37 in
625 yds -147.50 in 1149 fps 182 fpe 1.120 sec 189.53 in 60.35 in 68.55 in
650 yds -167.38 in 1120 fps 173 fpe 1.186 sec 211.15 in 67.76 in 75.05 in
675 yds -188.98 in 1093 fps 164 fpe 1.254 sec 234.49 in 75.80 in 81.84 in
700 yds -212.47 in 1069 fps 157 fpe 1.323 sec 259.72 in 84.50 in 88.91 in
725 yds -237.79 in 1047 fps 151 fpe 1.394 sec 286.79 in 93.86 in 96.24 in
750 yds -265.06 in 1027 fps 145 fpe 1.466 sec 315.80 in 103.92 in 103.84 in
775 yds -294.32 in 1008 fps 140 fpe 1.540 sec 346.80 in 114.69 in 111.67 in
800 yds -325.53 in 991 fps 135 fpe 1.615 sec 379.75 in 126.18 in 119.72 in

Moving Target Lead Data
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Range 5 Mph 10 Mph 15 Mph 20 Mph 25 Mph 30 Mph 35 Mph 40 Mph 45 Mph 50 Mph 55 Mph 60 Mph
0 yds 0.00 ft 0.00 ft 0.00 ft 0.00 ft 0.00 ft 0.00 ft 0.00 ft 0.00 ft 0.00 ft 0.00 ft 0.00 ft 0.00 ft
25 yds 0.22 ft 0.44 ft 0.65 ft 0.87 ft 1.09 ft 1.31 ft 1.52 ft 1.74 ft 1.96 ft 2.18 ft 2.39 ft 2.61 ft
50 yds 0.44 ft 0.88 ft 1.32 ft 1.76 ft 2.20 ft 2.64 ft 3.08 ft 3.52 ft 3.96 ft 4.39 ft 4.83 ft 5.27 ft
75 yds 0.67 ft 1.34 ft 2.01 ft 2.68 ft 3.35 ft 4.02 ft 4.69 ft 5.36 ft 6.03 ft 6.70 ft 7.37 ft 8.04 ft
100 yds 0.91 ft 1.82 ft 2.73 ft 3.63 ft 4.54 ft 5.45 ft 6.36 ft 7.27 ft 8.18 ft 9.09 ft 9.99 ft 10.90 ft
125 yds 1.16 ft 2.31 ft 3.47 ft 4.62 ft 5.78 ft 6.93 ft 8.09 ft 9.24 ft 10.40 ft 11.55 ft 12.71 ft 13.86 ft
150 yds 1.41 ft 2.82 ft 4.23 ft 5.64 ft 7.04 ft 8.45 ft 9.86 ft 11.27 ft 12.68 ft 14.09 ft 15.50 ft 16.91 ft
175 yds 1.67 ft 3.34 ft 5.01 ft 6.68 ft 8.35 ft 10.02 ft 11.69 ft 13.36 ft 15.03 ft 16.70 ft 18.37 ft 20.04 ft
200 yds 1.94 ft 3.87 ft 5.81 ft 7.75 ft 9.69 ft 11.62 ft 13.56 ft 15.50 ft 17.43 ft 19.37 ft 21.31 ft 23.24 ft
225 yds 2.21 ft 4.43 ft 6.64 ft 8.85 ft 11.07 ft 13.28 ft 15.50 ft 17.71 ft 19.92 ft 22.14 ft 24.35 ft 26.56 ft
250 yds 2.50 ft 5.00 ft 7.50 ft 10.00 ft 12.50 ft 14.99 ft 17.49 ft 19.99 ft 22.49 ft 24.99 ft 27.49 ft 29.99 ft
275 yds 2.80 ft 5.59 ft 8.39 ft 11.19 ft 13.99 ft 16.78 ft 19.58 ft 22.38 ft 25.18 ft 27.97 ft 30.77 ft 33.57 ft
300 yds 3.11 ft 6.22 ft 9.32 ft 12.43 ft 15.54 ft 18.65 ft 21.75 ft 24.86 ft 27.97 ft 31.08 ft 34.18 ft 37.29 ft
325 yds 3.43 ft 6.86 ft 10.29 ft 13.72 ft 17.14 ft 20.57 ft 24.00 ft 27.43 ft 30.86 ft 34.29 ft 37.72 ft 41.15 ft
350 yds 3.76 ft 7.52 ft 11.28 ft 15.04 ft 18.80 ft 22.56 ft 26.32 ft 30.08 ft 33.84 ft 37.60 ft 41.36 ft 45.12 ft
375 yds 4.10 ft 8.20 ft 12.30 ft 16.40 ft 20.50 ft 24.60 ft 28.71 ft 32.81 ft 36.91 ft 41.01 ft 45.11 ft 49.21 ft
400 yds 4.45 ft 8.90 ft 13.35 ft 17.80 ft 22.25 ft 26.70 ft 31.15 ft 35.60 ft 40.05 ft 44.50 ft 48.95 ft 53.40 ft
425 yds 4.81 ft 9.63 ft 14.44 ft 19.25 ft 24.07 ft 28.88 ft 33.69 ft 38.51 ft 43.32 ft 48.14 ft 52.95 ft 57.76 ft
450 yds 5.19 ft 10.38 ft 15.57 ft 20.76 ft 25.95 ft 31.14 ft 36.33 ft 41.52 ft 46.71 ft 51.89 ft 57.08 ft 62.27 ft
475 yds 5.58 ft 11.16 ft 16.75 ft 22.33 ft 27.91 ft 33.49 ft 39.07 ft 44.65 ft 50.24 ft 55.82 ft 61.40 ft 66.98 ft
500 yds 5.99 ft 11.98 ft 17.96 ft 23.95 ft 29.94 ft 35.93 ft 41.92 ft 47.91 ft 53.89 ft 59.88 ft 65.87 ft 71.86 ft
525 yds 6.41 ft 12.81 ft 19.22 ft 25.63 ft 32.03 ft 38.44 ft 44.85 ft 51.25 ft 57.66 ft 64.07 ft 70.47 ft 76.88 ft
550 yds 6.84 ft 13.67 ft 20.51 ft 27.34 ft 34.18 ft 41.01 ft 47.85 ft 54.68 ft 61.52 ft 68.35 ft 75.19 ft 82.02 ft
575 yds 7.28 ft 14.56 ft 21.84 ft 29.12 ft 36.41 ft 43.69 ft 50.97 ft 58.25 ft 65.53 ft 72.81 ft 80.09 ft 87.37 ft
600 yds 7.74 ft 15.48 ft 23.22 ft 30.96 ft 38.70 ft 46.44 ft 54.19 ft 61.93 ft 69.67 ft 77.41 ft 85.15 ft 92.89 ft
625 yds 8.21 ft 16.43 ft 24.64 ft 32.85 ft 41.06 ft 49.28 ft 57.49 ft 65.70 ft 73.91 ft 82.13 ft 90.34 ft 98.55 ft
650 yds 8.70 ft 17.40 ft 26.09 ft 34.79 ft 43.49 ft 52.19 ft 60.88 ft 69.58 ft 78.28 ft 86.98 ft 95.67 ft 104.37 ft
675 yds 9.19 ft 18.39 ft 27.58 ft 36.78 ft 45.97 ft 55.17 ft 64.36 ft 73.56 ft 82.75 ft 91.95 ft 101.14 ft 110.34 ft
700 yds 9.70 ft 19.41 ft 29.11 ft 38.82 ft 48.52 ft 58.22 ft 67.93 ft 77.63 ft 87.33 ft 97.04 ft 106.74 ft 116.45 ft
725 yds 10.22 ft 20.45 ft 30.67 ft 40.89 ft 51.12 ft 61.34 ft 71.56 ft 81.79 ft 92.01 ft 102.24 ft 112.46 ft 122.68 ft
750 yds 10.75 ft 21.51 ft 32.26 ft 43.02 ft 53.77 ft 64.53 ft 75.28 ft 86.03 ft 96.79 ft 107.54 ft 118.30 ft 129.05 ft
775 yds 11.29 ft 22.59 ft 33.89 ft 45.18 ft 56.48 ft 67.77 ft 79.07 ft 90.36 ft 101.66 ft 112.95 ft 124.25 ft 135.54 ft
800 yds 11.84 ft 23.69 ft 35.53 ft 47.38 ft 59.22 ft 71.07 ft 82.91 ft 94.75 ft 106.60 ft 118.44 ft 130.29 ft 142.13 ft
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 5:15:51 PM EST
Originally Posted By EWP:
Both of those charts are wrong, look at the scope height a 0 yards, most are at 1.5" and neither one of those charts are close to that.


You're clueless. You might want to reread the name of this website.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 5:31:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/4/2009 5:46:51 PM EST by drmgallen]
Originally Posted By Molon:
Originally Posted By EWP:
Both of those charts are wrong, look at the scope height a 0 yards, most are at 1.5" and neither one of those charts are close to that.


You're clueless. You might want to reread the name of this website.


OK...I am with Molon on this one...

I have five boxes of these bad boys to shoot thru my Lilja 20" barrel.

I have Varget, BL-C (2), H335, TAC, AA2520...

But is your powder Benchmark?...for the groups that you have posted?...I take that back..some N500 series powder?

Thanks...


Link Posted: 11/4/2009 6:19:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By drmgallen:
Originally Posted By Molon:
Originally Posted By EWP:
Both of those charts are wrong, look at the scope height a 0 yards, most are at 1.5" and neither one of those charts are close to that.


You're clueless. You might want to reread the name of this website.


OK...I am with Molon on this one...

I have five boxes of these bad boys to shoot thru my Lilja 20" barrel.

I have Varget, BL-C (2), H335, TAC, AA2520...

But is your powder Benchmark?...for the groups that you have posted?...I take that back..some N500 series powder?

Thanks...




Closer . . .

Link Posted: 11/4/2009 6:57:17 PM EST
Originally Posted By Molon:
Originally Posted By drmgallen:
Originally Posted By Molon:
Originally Posted By EWP:
Both of those charts are wrong, look at the scope height a 0 yards, most are at 1.5" and neither one of those charts are close to that.


You're clueless. You might want to reread the name of this website.


OK...I am with Molon on this one...

I have five boxes of these bad boys to shoot thru my Lilja 20" barrel.

I have Varget, BL-C (2), H335, TAC, AA2520...

But is your powder Benchmark?...for the groups that you have posted?...I take that back..some N500 series powder?

Thanks...




Closer . . .



N140....off to buy a jug...:-)
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