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Posted: 10/4/2016 12:20:23 AM EDT
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I just worked up some 158 gr RNFP home cast and powder coated loads with H-110 in 357.
I ended up at the same charge as I use for a 158 gr jacketed bullet full power load. Make sure your bullets pass the hammer test first before you work up full loads, no leading if they pass. Get a Lyman manual for some data. Page 358 and 359 in Lyman 49 has all of your powders listed for 155 gr to 170 gr. Faster powders are listed for 125's. Got Lyman 50 from the shop, page 418 has 2400 date for a cast 120 gr TC. Good luck |
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Posted: 10/4/2016 12:24:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just worked up some 158 gr RNFP home cast and powder coated loads with H-110 in 357. I ended up at the same charge as I use for a 158 gr jacketed bullet full power load. Make sure your bullets pass the hammer test first before you work up full loads, no leading if they pass. Get a Lyman manual for some data. Page 358 and 359 in Lyman 49 has all of your powders listed for 155 gr to 170 gr. Faster powders are listed for 125's. Got Lyman 50 from the shop, page 418 has 2400 date for a cast 120 gr TC. Good luck I thinking, but hoping I'm wrong, there may be a reason there's no data showing a 125 cast in the 1500s.? |
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Posted: 10/4/2016 12:48:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/4/2016 12:56:20 AM EDT
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No clue, but plan to look up, learn, and do the hammer test as suggested. Lol.
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Posted: 10/4/2016 7:06:02 AM EDT
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Just use 125gr jacketed data. I haven't found a starting load yet that wouldn't work with my powder coated bullets. Then work up to where you want to be velocity wise watching for fouling or other problems.
Coated lead bullets can produce lower pressure so if you are using a chronograph don't be surprised if you reach maximum published load for a jacketed 125gr and are not showing any pressure signs and are not at maximum velocity. Motor |
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Posted: 10/4/2016 9:35:24 AM EDT
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I had a thread about this very topic a few weeks ago.
I was told in my thread that, 14.5 - 16.0 grains of H110 for Bayou coated LSWC with Magnum primers for .357. I still have not loaded any up to test yet. |
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Posted: 10/4/2016 11:42:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No clue, but plan to look up, learn, and do the hammer test as suggested. Lol. No secret, hammer bullets to ensure the coating stays on. The test to see if you cooked the PC correctly. If they pass and you don't scrape the sides of the bullet when you seat them, they will not lead. (don't scrimp on the bell) Then you have made cast bullets almost the equal to jacketed bullets, so use jacketed data. Be sure to work up. |
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Posted: 10/11/2016 1:11:51 PM EDT
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Hammer test on my 125 grain coated bullets. These are bought, not made by me. Now this is one sledge hammer strike on a cement garage floor. If I really flatten the lead I get more flaking.
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Posted: 10/11/2016 7:45:13 PM EDT
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296/H110, AA9, and some of the other slower burners aren't listed for lighter bullets because they require a pretty high level of bullet "pull" to achieve proper ignition. Even gas checked 125 gr bullets aren't recommended. 2400 does pretty well, starting at 125 gr or so, I also see some data for IMR4227 as well. For such light bullets, consider something a mite faster burning. Herco & Blue Dot should be about optimal.
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Posted: 10/11/2016 8:43:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hammer test on my 125 grain coated bullets. These are bought, not made by me. Now this is one sledge hammer strike on a cement garage floor. If I really flatten the lead I get more flaking. https://oafq4w.dm2302.livefilestore.com/y3mXSd1RUNwwgNMrvtFA-auN-ow9iurpR0_OfRaKE2s589sFT-PzytvJzXgrJn5ESKisxdXpbYCVI8w60pmKKeCmEBxULOEC09Z7IHP57AtwmHJ7qEA1EfswwG66FTZep80X_JZM8PKxn6Al1i5P4i5ugsVMVRYBOmS3KMqUug6XDc?width=371&height=660&cropmode=none https://bjnyqq.dm2302.livefilestore.com/y3mNHel0pvnlKTINmef1FOu8DxGpOR-E63uBxwnZLXr3K5oXpVw40dPaXbGJMNGWQiScJbWAHtuM1E5sT-T6WWU8PJRmUNFmtQowAT2HkCfhJh_zUolRD3wjT8qRzMP7wIPYAy7esypL3KFsgkHvqJLif6TnVtap8n--UXehnvUwyo?width=371&height=660&cropmode=none That is fine. |
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Posted: 10/11/2016 10:47:32 PM EDT
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You have to work those up. <a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Powder%20Coat/P1010951_zpsby3d9jmt.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Coat/P1010951_zpsby3d9jmt.jpg</a> Do your bullets pass the hammer test? What brand of powder coat you use, I've never seen that kind of orange. Love the hammer test! |
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Posted: 10/11/2016 11:32:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What brand of powder coat you use, I've never seen that kind of orange. Love the hammer test! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You have to work those up. <a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/Powder%20Coat/P1010951_zpsby3d9jmt.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/Powder%20Coat/P1010951_zpsby3d9jmt.jpg</a> Do your bullets pass the hammer test? What brand of powder coat you use, I've never seen that kind of orange. Love the hammer test!  More red than orange. The cheapest kind around, from Harbor Freight. Works fine. The other colors they sell won't work with the tumble method. |
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Posted: 10/12/2016 6:22:19 AM EDT
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I have some 125 coated cast bullets I want to load. Most will be used as mid power rounds but I want to load a batch to match my carry load. Problem.... I can't find any load data for Aa 9, enforcer, h110, 2400 etc for 125 grain lead bullets. Any one have some starting points for aa9 or enforcer? From the ramshot reloading manual using a 6" test bbl aa#9 bullet start vel max vel psi vel 125 NOSLER JHP 14.1 1,378 15.6 1,567 35,178 1.575 125 BARNES XPB 12.6 1,399 14.0 1,554 33,300 1.585 enforcer 125 HDY XTP 16.2 1,500 18.0 1 ,667 32,570 1.580 125 BARNES XPB 14.9 1,575 16.5 1,750 34,500 1.585 I like using this ramshot #6.0 manual. It has allot more data in it then other manuals they put out. http://www.ramshot.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/WesternLoadGuide1-2016_Web-1.pdf |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 1:30:15 PM EDT
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I had to chat with Western about a couple other questions this morning so I asked about 125 cast data. Here it is per Western
Enforcer – 125 Lead 14.8 grains 1225 FPS 17.5 grains 1650 FPS AA #9 – 125 Lead 14.4 grains – 1300 FPS 16 Grains – 1475 FPS |
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