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Posted: 10/20/2010 2:50:12 PM EDT
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http://www.ray-vin.com/tech/slinghelp/slinghelp.htm
as for 2, there's always neatsfoot oil, or some other preservative. I just put mine on both my M1 and my 22LR prone gun, so it serves double duty and is getting twice as much character, twice as fast. |
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Posted: 10/21/2010 3:40:21 PM EDT
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Neatsfoot oil is good - it will both darken and soften the leather. Serious match shooters use the same sling design, but in synthetic materials so they won't stretch. For the rest of us, leather works fine, and the oil will make it weather-resistant.. If you want the "used look", you'll need to use it
This Page has a good explanation and some excellent pictures of how a 1907 is supposed to go together. Hartley |
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Posted: 10/22/2010 4:44:05 AM EDT
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Does this help?
This is the Military way. Target shooters install them slightly different, I hate that way and have no pictures for that type of installation. HTH |
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Posted: 10/25/2010 1:13:49 PM EDT
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Hi Milo,
There are only two things a target shooter would do differently: 1: The loop that is attached to the front swivel would be shorter, with significant overlap of the sling instead of putting the hooks right at the end. One of the keepers would be used to keep the hooks in, and this loop is adjusted so that if you put your support arm through so it is around your upper arm, it will come up tight in the offhand shooting position (this is how the sling contributes to accuracy). There are several nice videos of how to do this online, btw. 2. The hooks on the part that goes thru the back swivel are hooked in various places, depending on what "mode" you are in - for carry, because the front loop is now shorter, you would normally hook the end back on itself, in order to make the whole sling long enough. When shooting and using the front loop, the back loop might be completely unhooked & loose. If you are storing the weapon, the hook would be attached well up on the front loop, so as to tighten the sling and keep it out of the way in the rack/safe. Hartley |
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Posted: 10/25/2010 2:43:04 PM EDT
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What matches do you attend that allow you to use the sling in the offhand position?
Hi Milo, There are only two things a target shooter would do differently: 1: The loop that is attached to the front swivel would be shorter, with significant overlap of the sling instead of putting the hooks right at the end. One of the keepers would be used to keep the hooks in, and this loop is adjusted so that if you put your support arm through so it is around your upper arm, it will come up tight in the offhand shooting position (this is how the sling contributes to accuracy). |
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Posted: 10/25/2010 3:06:24 PM EDT
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Neatsfoot oil is meant to maintain working, disposable leather in decent condition until the leather wears out.
For a long-term item like a leather sling, I strongly suggest Pecard's leather treatment. This stuff is endorsed by conservators of most all major museums as preserving leather, and doing no harm to it. I am a collector, and learned early-on that neatsfoot oil is NOT for collectibles, nor for long-term items like slings and even good boots. I have 30-year old leather that was treated with neatsfooot that is falling apart, and similar leather that was treated with Pecard's that is entirely GTG right now. Besides, Pecard's does everything that neatsfoot oil is supposed to do, except destroying the leather. YMMV, but I deal in a good bit of leather, and I NEVER use neatsfoot oil. Disclaimer: no commercial interrest. BTW, the now hard-to find GI, OD, NYLON sling, intended for the M-14, but also issued during the Vietnam era is probably the best sling for most users. Few know how to use it properly, but it will do for almost all sling-users. The leather slings, and their composite descendants are good slings, but they are, by virtue of their construction, limited by the increments imposed by the holes in slings. The GI NYLON slings are much more variable, as they have no holes. They are infinitely variable, because they have no pre-cut holes. |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 11:59:12 AM EDT
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There are only two things a target shooter would do differently: Most serious competitors would reverse the sling so that the frogs (hooks) are facing towards the stock rather than away from it as in the parade style configuration depicted in the picture. When the sling is used from a supported position, the so called "Marine style" rigging causes the loop that the supporting arm passes through to pull tighter. The pictured method tends to cause the loop to pull open. There's also a no-pulse way to rig the 1907 sling, but that prevents the sling from being used as a means to carry the rifle. Guys using a no-pulse sling typically attached a web sling for offhand ( sling must be attached but isn't used for support ) since it's easy to remove before using the no-pulse rig for sitting and prone. I don't recall any High Power shooter ever oiling a leather sling as this could potentially cause the sling to stretch while being used... |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 4:25:04 PM EDT
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If you have a Local Tandy Leather Store, they offer dye and leather treatment that will darken and protect your sling.
You can also order online. http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/home/home.aspx |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 12:21:18 PM EDT
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I think the cotton web sling is a better one for shooting HP as it is not slippier than nylon
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