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Posted: 1/9/2005 5:25:24 PM EDT
77gr Black Hills MatchKing
75gr Hornady TAP
62gr Federal M855
55gr Federal XM193


Link Posted: 1/9/2005 5:37:21 PM EDT
You could always recommend "OTHER", but I think I have the major players covered.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 5:53:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2005 4:55:51 PM EDT by sgtstinger]
I voted for the XM193, but I actually use the Winchester Q3131A 55gr. FMJ.

I voted that way 'cause it's the closest to what I'm using right now.

I'll eventually be using some 60gr. HP's, but I need to get my reloading set-up together first.

And I actually keep 13 mags loaded...12 in my Tactical Tailor 1A "Rifleman" vest and 1 in the weapon.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 6:47:25 PM EDT
If you felt like spending the money, the 75gr. TAP or 77gr. BH would probably be the way to go.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 7:45:01 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:48:52 PM EDT
XM193.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 8:03:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sjauch:
If you felt like spending the money, the 75gr. TAP or 77gr. BH would probably be the way to go.



I do, I will.......

I was thinking 77gr BH...
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 8:06:26 AM EDT
barrel length and twist?

overall i'd say the 193. but the lenght and twist does matter for maximum effect.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 8:13:46 AM EDT
XM855, please.

Hold the pretzels.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 8:14:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sgtstinger:
I voted for the XM193, but I actually use the Winchester Q3131A 55gr. FMJ.

I voted that way 'cause it's the closet to what I'm using right now.

I'll eventually be using some 60gr. HP's, but I need to get my reloading set-up together first.

And I actually keep 13 mags loaded...12 in my Tactical Tailor 1A "Rifleman" vest and 1 in the weapon.



I can vouch for the 60 gr. HPs.  I've been making these for a little while, and they are devastating.  Just yesterday, I shot a water jug at 50 yards with one and it looked like it had been hit with my 30-06.  Litterally tore the back of the jug clean off and split the whole bottle down the side, cap blew off (into 2 pieces) and the water was who knows where.  It's fun to watch the thing fly 20 feet from the spot it was hit.  Most folks would say not to rely on handloads, but I can say that I WOULD trust any round I made with my life, I'm that confident in their construction and reliability.  MJD
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 8:26:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NAM:
barrel length and twist?

overall i'd say the 193. but the lenght and twist does matter for maximum effect.




Variable.  I have -- currently -- 10.5" 14.5" and 16.1" 1:7 barrels...

Link Posted: 1/10/2005 8:54:32 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 8:57:15 AM EDT
Lake City M193
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 9:32:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By raf:
I can think of very few applications wherein 5.56mm would be my "go-to" choice.  YMMV.



So you don't use 5.56 in any theoretical defensive application?  If not that's fine, we can't all be as cool as you.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 2:49:51 PM EDT
Alright, I voted M193.  But I really like the Hornady 60 Gr. V-max.  My personal experience with TAP has been disappointing, I bought some of the 75 Gr. stuff for a 1X8 target gun, and my best group at 100 yds. was about 6".  My handloads will consistantly put 3-5 round strings into 3/4" to 1".
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 6:48:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CIB:
Alright, I voted M193.  But I really like the Hornady 60 Gr. V-max.  My personal experience with TAP has been disappointing, I bought some of the 75 Gr. stuff for a 1X8 target gun, and my best group at 100 yds. was about 6".  My handloads will consistantly put 3-5 round strings into 3/4" to 1".



I would certainly try the 75gr TAP for accuracy first, but I can't find the damn stuff.

Which is why I am thinking of using the 77gr BH.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 8:02:25 PM EDT
How about 55 or 60gr TAP AMAX? the 75 is a HPBT...
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 8:15:55 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 8:24:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jjmcrowell:
How about 55 or 60gr TAP AMAX? the 75 is a HPBT...



According to folks who know A LOT more than me, the 55gr and 60gr TAP do not meet the minimum FBI penetration requirements -- which, IMO are not at all unrealistic so....

75gr TAP is the only option in that line.
Link Posted: 1/10/2005 9:24:04 PM EDT
My grab and go can contains 480 rounds of XM193 on stripper clips in four 7 pocket bandoleers and one four pocket bandoleer with 4 loaded 30 round Mags. One loaded Mag in the safe with the M4gery.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 1:17:38 AM EDT
"I voted for the XM193, but I actually use the Winchester Q3131A 55gr. FMJ."


Yup...


 - georgestrings
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 1:21:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By raf:
I can think of very few applications wherein 5.56mm would be my "go-to" choice.  YMMV.




What Raf said... FAL or AK for me as a 1st choice, actually...


 - georgestrings
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 3:49:57 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 5:16:20 AM EDT
Another good question is, What .223/5.56 ammo would you choose for an indoor scenario, where family members may be on the other side of walls?
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:11:03 AM EDT
I like the XM193 and have some known quality low lot# cases of it. I have confidence in it and it shoots fine in any AR I may happen to have handy.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 12:13:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Troy:
75gr TAP.  I have almost 2 cases of the Mk262 Mod1 using the Nosler bullets as well, but that stuff isn't as easy to replace as the 75gr TAP.

-Troy



You can find 75gr TAP right now?  I can't seem to find anyone in stock......
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 12:20:05 PM EDT
SHIVAN, I think I got mine from Zander's it's been a month or 2 and I can't remember for sure.  Might check with them and see.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 2:23:47 PM EDT
62gr M855 is what i have loaded.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 3:32:05 PM EDT
My SHTF stocks are a combination of Q3131A and XM193
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 5:51:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CIB:
SHIVAN, I think I got mine from Zander's it's been a month or 2 and I can't remember for sure.  Might check with them and see.



They are out...
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:46:21 PM EDT
sealed................XM193.......................
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:57:25 PM EDT
75gr Hornady TAP.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:23:08 PM EDT
Handloads identical to the Mk 262 with the 77 gr SMK. . .
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 8:36:40 PM EDT
I was thinking more along the lines of Readers Digest or the morning paper, but then I re-read the title of the thread.  The "go to" and "to go" messed with me.

Link Posted: 1/12/2005 12:59:54 AM EDT
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