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Posted: 2/4/2006 5:09:51 PM EDT
I like shooting my Hk-91 ,but the price of .308 has increased lately,
and good surplus is a really off/on market.

I would like to get a 10/22 ,add a pistol grip,and change the sights
to match HK style peep sights to practice more .
I've seen kits to replace the front sight ,but not the rear .

Can anyone recommend a good kit to change the sights to HK peep,
or a good way to add a pistol grip ?

I don't care if the stock remains the same (I'll add length) but I
really want that pistol grip.

Also ,is there any reason for me to not buy a 10/22 at WalMart ,
I can get a really good discount on one there.  ($140 New ).

Is there a way to add a picatinny rail on the top so I could put
a Bushnell Holosight on top ?(found a used one)

I'd like to put an Eotech on my HK ,and a close enough Bushnell on
a 10/22 for cheap practice.

Thanks for any advice.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 6:47:11 PM EDT
[#1]
Forget about buying a 10/22 and then bolting hundreds of dollars worth of jinky-junk on it.

Buy a Rhineland R22 (current list $425), bolt on your Holosight, and start shooting it. MUCH more accurate than any Walmart 10/22, too.

They are supposed to have iron sights available sometime soon.

Link Posted: 2/5/2006 5:47:03 AM EDT
[#2]
That Rhineland R22 looks sweet !

A starting cost of $425 before mags is a little high for
my purposes.

This rifle is meant to be a cheap plinker.

I'm talking $150 for the rifle (including FFL fee) ,
and I've seen a front sight for $10 (but no rear)
and a quick add on pistol grip for $25 .


The holosight is meant to try it out on another rifle before spending
big money on an Eotech .
If I like the Holosight ,it'll be relegated to the 10/22 for practice .

I may not even modify the sights if I go strait to a holosight.

Problem there being I need to find a rail for the 10/22 .
after buying an Eotech.

I was kind of hoping someone here has tried out some add ons
they liked and could recommend .
Anyone ?
Link Posted: 2/5/2006 12:42:19 PM EDT
[#3]
Ok heres what i think would be a pretty desent setup for you personally, but will require a bit of gunsmithing...

go and pick up the RA 10/22 stock for your pistol grip stock.. they are well priced and look to be good quality *all though i do not know this first hand*

keep the orginal barrel if the trigger pull is too heavy to match your HK *never shot an HK* go ahead and throw a VQ hammer in it..

then for your rear sight i would pick up a cheap scope rail and a HK peep sight.. take the sight scope rail and rifle down to your local gun smith *or do it yourself* grind down the scope rail as needed and silver soder the peep sight on..

Personally i have never seen a rear HK style peep sight for a 10/22..

at this point i am gussing you will be into your rifle for about.. 150 give take.. depending on the cost of the peep sight..

Jess

*ETA ok i looked up the rear Peep sight Assy. on gun broker it looks like they run about 60.. plus a 5 doller mount and gunsmithing charges... the only thing i would be concerned about would be if you could get it lined up right so that it would be accurete..*
Link Posted: 2/5/2006 3:27:58 PM EDT
[#4]
Cobra, I can just about guarantee you're not going to like any kind of add-on pistol grip. So after you throw away $25 figuring that out, you'll still be looking for a stock. Choate and Advanced Technologies have some for $55-70 that are much better. Maybe you can find a used one at a gunshow or something.

10/22 sights are a problem if you want to run both peeps and scope. There is no cheap and easy solution. Cabela's used to have the Zephyr sights but I didn't see them in the last catalog (about $30, but can't use scope with it). Best idea might be to get the Weaver scope base and then a Williams peep sight for .22 dovetails to go on it, then you still have to sort out the front sight problem on your own. I put a M14 front sight on mine and dovetailed a base for an M1 carbine rear sight. If someone would make that setup over-the-counter, they'd get rich.

Buy the 10/22 and enjoy it for what it is. If you try to make it into a G91 trainer, a year from now you'll find you've spent $300-400 on it and you're still not happy with it anyway. That's when the Rhineland will look like a good deal. Don't ask me how I know this stuff!
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 3:26:19 AM EDT
[#5]
Anarx and Snake45,
Thanks ,I looked up some info and checked a store for those stocks.

I can get a used one for $25 ,new one for around $65 .

To save some money ,I'm thinking about skipping on the sights mods,
and just putting  some type of flat top rail on top and mounting a
Holosight .
$150 for rifle,(less if I find a good used one) ,
$25 for used stock ,
$50 for used scratched Holosight.
(It works,and I was buying one anyway)

With a 1,000 round crate of quality surplus 7.62 X 51 mm going for
around $250 including shipping ,I can get this set up and about
3,000 rounds of .22LR instead.
(NOTE : I said QUALITY .308)
It'll pay for itself over this summer.I should have done this a LONG
time ago !

Of course ,I'll have to lengthen the stock and add some weight to make it
as close to the HK as possible for training purposes.
I don't want the HK to feel to big and heavy.
I can afford to shoot a couple of times a week with .22 LR ,and once every
few weeks with the HK .
Link Posted: 2/6/2006 9:23:49 PM EDT
[#6]
wanna peep site for your 10/22?  Then make one ya lazy scumbag!!!!  get a small flat piece of sheet metal and build it.  Take the two screws out of your adjustable V notch site and use it as a template.  With a little imagination, a drill press, some small bits, a dremel tool and some black paint you could definately make a great peep site you could swap out at will with the stock adjustable site.  You know you could probably even improvise on the V notch site by taping a piece of altered sheet metal over the top of it with a hole in the right place.  Just think of the many Mini-14 Ranch Rifles that had the basic flat stamped sheet metal peeps for a rear site.

Good luck,

Wes
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 6:04:45 PM EDT
[#7]
You could try this
http://www.williamsgunsight.com/image_88.htm
or this
http://www.tech-sights.com/ruger.html
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 6:17:47 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:


Problem there being I need to find a rail for the 10/22 .
after buying an Eotech.

I was kind of hoping someone here has tried out some add ons
they liked and could recommend .

Anyone ?



www.jackweigand.com/1022.html

scroll down to:

Ruger 10/22 No Gunsmithing Scope Mount
R1022RECP....................Black...................$29.95
                       "NEW Picatinny Style"
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