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Posted: 5/25/2002 2:02:35 AM EST
i want to get an ar that would be held to the closest military standards. any ideas on which brand?
Link Posted: 5/25/2002 2:07:05 AM EST
Pre ban COLT or Pre ban Bushmaster are PROBABLY the BEST "mil-spec" rifles on the market.Some others (fulton armory)are supposedly(sp) held to even tighter tolerances but they are post ban.
Link Posted: 5/25/2002 3:22:10 AM EST
Closest AR-15 to mil-spec?

Colt AR-15 model 614. No doubt, hands down. Just lacking the M16A1 and US Property stamps. Otherwise identical.

About $6-7k for a good one.

(sorry, couldn't resist!)
Link Posted: 5/25/2002 4:26:05 AM EST
In current post ban production at a reasonable cost you would spell those choices as Bushmaster.
Link Posted: 5/25/2002 5:08:34 AM EST
For a post-ban model, the Bushmaster is probably as close to mil-spec as any.
Link Posted: 5/25/2002 6:20:51 AM EST
Well all M16A2, A3, A4 & M4 rifles have a 1:7 twist. So that pretty much eliminates Bushmaster as "milspec".
Link Posted: 5/25/2002 7:40:49 AM EST
I think Christopher was more concerned about the construction of the rifle than the twist rate. The way it is put together, what it is built from, the way you take it down, etc...that sort of stuff.
Link Posted: 5/25/2002 8:36:09 AM EST
Link Posted: 5/25/2002 8:55:14 AM EST

I agree with you.  One thing I noticed though.  Guys (and girls!) from my department ordered 175 Colt MB6601C’s.  All of them have standard size fire control pins and front push pin.  HOWEVER, some have the metal-hinged trapdoor/latch, some have the all-plastic trapdoor, and ALL have the plastic buffer.  I couldn’t stand opening my rifle and looking at that gawdawful plastic buffer after years of seeing that greenish aluminum one.  It was immediately replaced !!

Edited to give credit to the women in my department that feel the need and satisfaction of having their own AR for patrol.  
Link Posted: 5/25/2002 11:07:13 AM EST
Amen, brother AR15 fan!
Link Posted: 5/25/2002 12:02:36 PM EST
One additional thing about the Colt plastic buffer that makes it a P.I.T.A. !! There is a hole on the side of the buffer that is big enough to let the buffer retaining pin enter.  It takes about three hands and a screw driver to get it out once the pin goes in that hole!  he
Link Posted: 5/25/2002 5:53:47 PM EST
Another thing that hasn't been mentioned, if you're talking about the M16A2 than there is also the issue of the barrel.

Most 20" AR15's sold are HBAR's. The current 20" A2 rifles being used have a barrel that is a heavy barrel up front, and then necks down under the handguards.

A few manufacturers offer uppers in this configurations (referred to as Government Profile), including Bushmaster.

Also, if you look around you can find FN AR15 Government Profile uppers (FN has a contract with the military).

Link Posted: 5/25/2002 6:03:52 PM EST
There are no rifle currently made to mil-spec
only mil-spec rifles are Made, that is M16A1/A2 marked. Bushmaster's and colt's are the cloest to mil-spec has for finnishing! plus the bush and colt uses 4150 crome moly for barrels.
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still counting...
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