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Posted: 5/11/2005 10:13:56 AM EDT
I have an Eotech on one of my AR-15's and that is a supurb peice of equipment. I have also been given a recommendation for a Aimpoint CompML2 for the M1A application.

I usually like to go with what I know, but the Eotech mounts much further to the rear on the AR-15 and what ever I get for the SOCOM will have to mount much more forward towards the muzzle. Does that make the Aimpoint better for the SOCOM?

Or should I just stick with iron sights!

What everyone recommendation?
Link Posted: 5/11/2005 3:11:35 PM EDT

Or should I just stick with iron sights!


+1
Link Posted: 5/11/2005 7:05:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/11/2005 7:05:52 PM EDT by macman37]
While the irons on an M1a are a work of art, an EOtech with the GG&G quick release works for me.
Link Posted: 5/11/2005 8:04:46 PM EDT
I've had an Aimpoint on my M16 and now my ar15. I've always tried to mount it as forward as possible. I love it. I've also used a Eotech, and liked it as well. It seems like they were designed to be mounted further back as you said. Has anyone mounted an Eotech forward?
Link Posted: 5/11/2005 8:10:54 PM EDT
Doesn't the Aimpoint mount lower than the EOTech? That might be a consideration, to stay as close to the bore line.
Link Posted: 5/11/2005 11:33:59 PM EDT
I'm partial to Aimpoints. Especially with the new 2 moa CompM3 I just got! I upgraded from an M2.
Link Posted: 5/12/2005 6:03:27 AM EDT
I'm going to be buying a SOCOM before the end of the month and I was thinking an Aimpoint would be perfect.

However, just last night I started thinking I might try a Reflex on it first.


Wonder if anyone has experience with a Reflex on a SOCOM?
Link Posted: 5/12/2005 6:10:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By chiz45:
Doesn't the Aimpoint mount lower than the EOTech? That might be a consideration, to stay as close to the bore line.



I don't have both, but I've played with my dad's Aimpoint and I think the sight line on the EOTech is lower than the sight line on the Aimpoint. Either will cause you to significantly change your cheek weld on the stock (read: your cheek weld will be more like a "jaw weld")

I don't know if they have low rise rings for the Aimpoint though so my data could be skewed.
Link Posted: 5/12/2005 7:44:15 AM EDT
I've got a reflex on mine - I would think that it, or the aimpoint would be your best bet given the forward mount.

Either way, get an adjustable cheekrest from Rooster, I hate the jaw weld.
Link Posted: 5/12/2005 7:46:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By chiz45:
Doesn't the Aimpoint mount lower than the EOTech? That might be a consideration, to stay as close to the bore line.



Yes, I have used both on an M1A scout. You can mount the Aimpoint lower. Both fine optics though.
Link Posted: 5/12/2005 8:53:48 AM EDT
I had the Aimpoint on my Scout and now I have the EOTech.
I really like the simple built-in mount on the EOTech.

My advise:
Shoot with your iron sights and wait for the 4x EOTech to come out in a few months.
It will have a dedicated 7.62mm reticle
Link Posted: 5/12/2005 9:05:55 AM EDT
aimpoint, or just plain irons
Link Posted: 5/12/2005 8:37:55 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 3:27:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By avengeusa:
aimpoint, or just plain irons



+1
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 4:15:34 AM EDT
Know how to use your irons as many have said.

The Eo Tech doesn't look right to me on a M14 I'd go with a Aimpoint.
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 4:20:13 AM EDT
i picked up a rear peep and drilled it out to make it an improved "battle sight". the gun is good out to 200 yds and the irons are a lot more usefull at night (for my old eyes). having said that i would go aimpoint.
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 5:23:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BRONZ:
The Eo Tech doesn't look right to me on a M14...



The EOTech doesn't look wrong on mine


Link Posted: 5/13/2005 6:06:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By H2O_MAN:

Originally Posted By BRONZ:
The Eo Tech doesn't look right to me on a M14...



The EOTech doesn't look wrong on mine
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I 100% agree with you H. Your sage is sweet looking and the EoTech looks good on it. I was thinking along the lines with a SE mount or scout rail is where it doesn't look right.
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 6:33:33 AM EDT
If I did go with an Aimpoint - what mount should I use?
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 9:49:49 AM EDT
ARMS 22m68 or LaRue. I've had experience with those two and like them both. The LaRue sits up higher than the 22m68 without a spacer, so the ARMS is probably the one to go with.
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 12:50:54 PM EDT
LaRue +1
Link Posted: 5/13/2005 1:47:52 PM EDT
Eotech looks good on my AR.

Link Posted: 5/13/2005 2:56:12 PM EDT
Yes it does Sly
Link Posted: 5/16/2005 6:50:11 PM EDT
just read a article in nra rifleman mag it said the 1 moa dot is much better for target past 200 yards the aim point 4moa is too large for long range you may whant too read it before u decide. i also read that the new 4x for eo will mount behind unit so u can disconnect for cqc so it should work with current eotech i hope love mine but would like it to have 4x mag or better for my m1a for longer range. also does any one know if u can co wittness your iron sights if u use a eotech on m1a?? u can on most rifles. that would be great eo for close iron for range ??
Link Posted: 5/16/2005 7:12:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/16/2005 7:14:03 PM EDT by H2O_MAN]

Originally Posted By devin_c1:
just read a article in nra rifleman mag it said the 1 moa dot is much better for target past 200 yards the aim point 4moa is too large for long range you may whant too read it before u decide. i also read that the new 4x for eo will mount behind unit so u can disconnect for cqc so it should work with current eotech i hope love mine but would like it to have 4x mag or better for my m1a for longer range. also does any one know if u can co wittness your iron sights if u use a eotech on m1a?? u can on most rifles. that would be great eo for close iron for range ??



No useable co-witness and I’ve been told you won't be able to use any existing optics with the new EOTech 4x.
It will be an all-new optic, magnifier and mount for $600 - $800.
The 5.56mm reticle should be available 1st then the 7.62mm reticle will debut.
Link Posted: 5/19/2005 4:59:25 PM EDT
+1 on the Aimpoint M3 with the 2MOA. The biggest advantage the EOTech has is the smaller center dot. Now that Aimpoint has the 2MOA dot, that advantage has been greatly reduced. I also agree that the EOTech sits too high versus the Aimpoint if you want to use a USGI stock. However, if you go with a Sage stock or install a cheek piece on the rifle, the height difference between the Aimpoint and EOTech is negated.
Link Posted: 5/20/2005 10:49:23 AM EDT
I put a reflex on a Scout/Squad rail and it was just a touch high. This was also with a ARMS low mount throw lever, #15 I think.

I eventually put a aimpoint and it worked well.

David
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