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Posted: 12/29/2011 8:58:25 PM EDT
I have an Adams Arms barrel with a threaded muzzle that appears slightly out of spec. My Spikes Dynacomp and a YHM Phantom brake will not thread on even in a vice with a 3/4 wrench. I emailed Spikes and Tom Miller replied saying that when they used to use Adams Arms barrels, they had to run a die over them because they were all too tight. I have a Troy brake that will thread on, so it isnt too far off.

My question: Can I buy a 1/2-28 die and run it over the threads without worrying about getting them misaligned? If so, can I get a "hex die" which apparently doesn't require any specialty tools?

Thanks for any advice.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 2:42:14 AM EDT
If the threads are that close you could probobly tighten and loosen the brakes on and off till they thread all the way down.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 5:37:45 AM EDT
Tried that and got it 3/4 of the way on, but it wouldn't go any further and I didn't feel comfortable torqueing on it in the vice.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 5:52:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/30/2011 5:53:57 AM EDT by wp6529]
If the threads are just cut a bit shallow you should have no trouble getting the die started properly on them and it should take a very light cut. Remember go 1 turn forward then 1/2 turn back to break the chips as you go so they don't jam up in the die.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 6:14:22 AM EDT
Originally Posted By wp6529:
If the threads are just cut a bit shallow you should have no trouble getting the die started properly on them and it should take a very light cut. Remember go 1 turn forward then 1/2 turn back to break the chips as you go so they don't jam up in the die.


This, plus be sure to use some lube - cutting/tapping fluid. If you don't have any on hand, at least use some sort of oil for lube.
Link Posted: 12/30/2011 6:29:58 AM EDT
Thanks for the help. Just picked up a die on eBay. Hopefully I can get this taken care of finally.
Link Posted: 1/6/2012 7:52:28 AM EDT
Most manufacturers of gun barrels today run the barrell contour and the threads on a CNC lathe. The threads can be gaged with hard tooling gages such as GO/NO-GO gage or on a Computerized Measuring Machine, CMM.

The manual lathe machining operation will usually use the Three Wire method of measuring which requires calculations using the standards as published in a Machinist Handbook. The purpose of running the thread on a lathe with a single point cutting tool is to insure longitudinal alignment. Cutting the thread to 90% in the lathe and doing the final adjustment with an adjustable split die allows the smith to adjust the thread to a close fit with zero lateral movement on final lock up. Clean and well lubed threads should require a wrench for the last several turns for either a muzzle brake or a suppressor. The longer the attachment, the more critical the fit.

The chasing of the lathe turned thread with a split die is performed by setting the die to a standard such as a tap or a factory thread on the large side and then adjusting to the the split die to the required fit. With practice the average person can faciitate the correct fit with two or three adjustments of the split die.

Go slow, use caution, and practice on scrap stock. It's cheaper than a new barrel.

The HEX threading die is used for chasing damaged threads. Not recommended for close tolerance work!

The ACORN threading die is used for production work and loose tolerances.

Enjoy the journey.
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