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Posted: 5/19/2019 9:31:41 PM EDT
Bought my first AUG this week (used Sabre Defense mfg A3), completely expecting a terrible trigger from everything I've read - I'd even bough a 2020 TSM ahead of picking the rifle up. Anyway, I found that the factory trigger was pretty good as-is ... No take up, very crisp, and not a huge amount of travel for reset. I'm wondering how much the TSM can improve it?
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Did you check the trigger pack to see if it has the NEU trigger mod or anything like that?
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I found my new AUG trigger to be agreeable. I read everyone talking about how bad it is so i had ordered a 2020 sear ahead of its arrival. i went ahead and installed the 2020 anyway and its well worth it in my opinion. I do have rifles with much worse triggers than the factory, but with the 2020 sear I have no complaints.
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Did you check the trigger pack to see if it has the NEU trigger mod or anything like that? View Quote |
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I don't think mine is bad either. It's heavy, that's my only gripe. I installed the Neu-Trigger, it helps a little IMO
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I don't think mine is bad either. It's heavy, that's my only gripe. I installed the Neu-Trigger, it helps a little IMO View Quote Can't wait to get to the range!!! |
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Quoted: Exactly! I think I want a few pounds lighter on the pull, but that's it. I could totally get used to the pull as it is, but I've been spoiled with AR Gold, Geissele, and Larue triggers for years. Can't wait to get to the range!!! View Quote |
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A few years back I shot a buddies AUG machinegun and I was pleasantly surprised at how easy it was to shoot singles, doubles and mag dumps. Great trigger on it.
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My AUG A3 M1 stock trigger was decent for being a mil-spec bullpup trigger. It had some take up, a little bit of creep, and a crisp break. I used some polymer safe lube in the trigger pack which took out a decent amount of the creep. I then added a 20/20 sear for shits and grins which removed almost all the take up and shortened the reset. It is now a heavy-ish trigger with next to zero take up, a good break, and barely any reset. Its not going to win any long range accuracy challenges but its more than adequate for point blank to mid-range distances.
I have plenty of light triggers in my handguns and rifles but I am fine with my AUG's trigger. |
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Yes it's ok. Similar to every other service rifle trigger (from the factory).
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Mine was ok, but I still did the 2020. Wish I woulda picked up a ratwork pack earlier when they were still available.
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I heard so many horror stories. It’s not a Geissele or anything, but it’s a perfectly serviceable trigger and I’d put it ahead of a lot of rack grade AR triggers I’ve used in the past. Take that for what it’s worth, because I don’t think I’m very trigger sensitive. I didn’t complain about my Tavor’s trigger either and everyone hates it. While heavy, it was still easy enough to shoot, like a heavy DA trigger.
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Factory trigger is ok.
NEU upgrade makes it better. The 20/20 sear is the best AUG trigger mod Ive shot to date |
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Perfectly satisfactory. Mine stacks up and then breaks like a Glock trigger but more crisp ( and a bit heavier, of course ) ....
I won't be changing it. |
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While not an AUG per say. But my MSAR Trigger pack is exceptional. Zero mush...take up like an AR with a great reset.
If I didn’t know better, I would never would think it’s polymer. |
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I had no issues with how the stock trigger felt, but the TSM just made it feel so much better with the travel and creep. Even took a trigger gauge to it and it consistently broke at 7.3lbs post TSM install.
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I find the AUG trigger acceptable for combat. No it's not a match trigger or anything, but it's not that bad either. I was able to hit targets out pretty far with my stock AUG, mostly shooting out to 500 yards man sized steel targets with no issues.
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Does anybody oil the 20/20 sear after every session like advised in the installation video?
MSAR and Aug Sear Trigger Installation from Rat Worx |
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Does anybody oil the 20/20 sear after every session like advised in the installation video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4KWouHyJII View Quote |
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I find the trigger on the AUG just fine, but factory triggers on AR-15's don't bother me either.
I think most people would be better served spending the money on ammunition to practice and evenings dry firing instead of a lighter trigger, but what do I know. Sven Manticore Arms |
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Does anybody oil the 20/20 sear after every session like advised in the installation video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4KWouHyJII View Quote |
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I'm really digging this rifle! Handles great - it's got other worldly balance and a great cheek weld. As said, the rifle has a bit heavy pull compared to what I'm used to, but other than that, I am very impressed with the trigger. Zero travel/take up, you're at the "wall" right way. It break crisps, and the trigger falls back a tenth or two of an inch. Reset is about where the trigger initially broke. Hopefully the 2020 TSM can improve on this, but I'm so happy with it just the way it is.
Range pics this weekend for sure! |
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I think people are just spoiled by ar triggers and especially match grade ar triggers. Most don’t have much experience with anything else so they feel something worse and it gets exaggerated. Tavor, hk91/ptr91, AUG etc... the triggers are functional but can be tweaked to be nicer. At least that’s my $.02 on it.
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I also think the stock trigger is fine.
Very much like a Glock trigger in my opinion. I also vote for installing the Neu trigger. It’s cheap to buy and easy to install. Brings the pull weight down a few pounds. |
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I bought my first Steyr Aug back in the mid 2000's. I now have a Steyr Aug A3 and I love it. The trigger is the same as the early ones that I have had. I like the trigger. I bought a brand new Tavor SAR when they first came out and I absolutely despised that crap trigger which must have been about 10 lbs with a skinny trigger. I also hated that low top rail that required a riser to mount optics and be able to get a cheek weld. I dumped that Tavor for a $500 loss almost a month after I first bought it. If Geissele ever gets their Steyr Aug trigger pack perfected I will buy one. But, in the mean time I'm completely happy with the OEM trigger.
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Finally shot my new AUG yesterday. The trigger is... meh at best, terrible at worst.
Will be buying either the Neu or 20/20 soon. Can’t decide which. |
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Finally shot my new AUG yesterday. The trigger is... meh at best, terrible at worst. Will be buying either the Neu or 20/20 soon. Can’t decide which. View Quote Anyway, I ran a bore scope through it tonight, and it's button rifled for sure. Rifling is definitely better than what you would typically see, but doesn't look quite as nice as some of my really good shooting button rifled barrels I have (Larue, Ballistic Advantage, Black Hole Weaponry, etc.). Hoping to take it out on Sunday - I think it'll do good! |
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I'm okay with the AUG trigger.
The Tavor on the other hand... |
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Maybe there are variations on the AUG trigger modules out there? Mine (10 year old Sabre Defense rifle) is quite nice! I have the 20/20 TSM in hand, but don't see a need to put it in just yet. I want to put some time in with the stock trigger first. Anyway, I ran a bore scope through it tonight, and it's button rifled for sure. Rifling is definitely better than what you would typically see, but doesn't look quite as nice as some of my really good shooting button rifled barrels I have (Larue, Ballistic Advantage, Black Hole Weaponry, etc.). Hoping to take it out on Sunday - I think it'll do good! View Quote Also, shoot your AUG how you wish, but you're doing yourself a disservice by waiting to put in the 2020 TSM. AUG hammerpacks do not get lighter over time and their characteristics do not change over time either. |
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I simply lube my hammer packs with Armor-All, and I've found the trigger to be just fine for the 0-200 yard shooting envelope that I can reasonably expect expect my ammo stash to perform in.
YMMV |
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Well I’m halfway there... first 2 parts I got were Corvus rail and mag release. Both are excellent.
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Wasn't able to get out to the range today, but I went ahead and did the TSM install. Man, it was way easier than I thought it would be (everything was done with fingers in about 10 minutes. No tools aside from using a pencil to start the pins out), and a noticeable improvement with reset.
I've got a concern on the mag release on the side of the rifle. This is a NATO version, so it's got that extra one above the mag, and I found the thing won't drop empty mags free if the bolt is open using this release. They can be pulled out easy, but they don't drop on their own. I'm assuming this is not normal? The release on the bottom drops them free just fine. |
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My A3M1 was better than I expected. was expecting a lot more takeup and reset and was pleasantly surprised. I do just about the same shot for shot with a stock AR trigger.
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I hated my aug trigger until I got the ratworx 2020 precision Roger Sun trigger pack .Too bad they are no longer available . It shrunk my groups in half and made a huge difference . 3.25 lbs, smooth, crisp and great reset .
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Can not find the neu trigger on gunbroker,can you tell me where you purchased it? Thanks,Tommy
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Stoner001- You email him at his website http://www.neu-trigger.com/
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During the time I had my AUG I always found the trigger to be fine but if you handed me two ARs one with a milspec and one with some high end trigger I'm hard pressed to tell the difference. Maybe I'm just not good enough of a shooter to feel a difference or something I dunno. On the plus side this has always given me more money to spend on ammo
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I like the stock AUG trigger just fine. I think I'm just weird and like soft, creepy triggers. I shoot it way better than my AR.
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