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Posted: 10/11/2011 2:07:34 PM EST
I decided to post another thread about the vltor A5, instead of highjacking a please help thread.  A couple of guys have got me real interested in using this buffer tube and buffer styem, but I am curious about the rate of fire with the different weight buffers.  Does anybody have any data or videos for ROF on the three different weight buffers?  I'll probably just order all three buffer weights and try them but I thought I would ask.  thanks.
Link Posted: 10/11/2011 4:48:48 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/12/2011 4:57:00 AM EST
Originally Posted By tony_k:
I have an A5 with only the standard buffer –– I have not timed it, but since switching from a milspec collapsible-stock receiver extension and an H2 buffer, it seems to run a tad faster –– an increase in the 25-50 rpm range –– for various barrel lengths in 5.56 and 9mm.


As I stated in the other thread I just ordered the A5 set up yesterday.

Some background issues I have had, mainly new mags or higher than 30 capacity mag/drums I have issues with feeding.  It seems like there isn't enough force to load the top round.  But I have noticed increased reliability when I went from a standard to H than to a H2 buffer.  I was going to purchase a H3 buffer when I started to read that the A5 set up is even better and still allows for the telescoping stock.

I did read that the weight of the standard A5 buffer weighs 5.3oz while the carbine H3 weighs 5.4oz.  However you have more spring length with the A2 action spring used in the A5 system compared to the shorter Carbine Action Spring.

I do like reading that the cycle rate for the A5 (standard buffer) is slightly faster than the H2 carbine set up  Having that with increase reliability will bring more smiles!!!

Just rambling
Link Posted: 10/14/2011 10:43:20 AM EST
anybody tried the H4 buffer for the A5 yet?  I ordered the tube and buffer kit today which I plan on putting my CTR on.  I am just wondering if I should go ahead and buy the h3 and h4 buffer for it also to try out.
Link Posted: 10/16/2011 4:35:24 PM EST
Installed my A5 buffer kit today.  My Command Arms Accessories stock fit perfect and interesting enough it has a hole on the top so it shows which numbered position you are in.

I won't be able to try it out till almost mid November before I can get out to the range.
Link Posted: 10/27/2011 2:58:27 PM EST
I got my A5 tube in the other day and put it on my RR.  I also took some pics of the buffer up against a carbine and rifle length buffer.  I haven't shot the lower yet but I plan on doing a review when I get everything together.  I have a 7.5" upper, a 10.5", a 20" upper all in .556.  I also have a 11.5" in 5.45x39 I am going to try out, and when I am done Ill try out the 5" 9mm upper.  I need to get my shot timer together and get to the range it has just been kinda busy with work.  I'll get it up soon.  For now I have a couple of pics of the buffers.


Link Posted: 10/27/2011 4:55:21 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/16/2011 4:45:03 AM EST
Was able to get out this past weekend, to me it seemed like the ROF of the A5 set up was slightly lower then the carbine/H2 buffer.

Everything functioned well.

I was hoping to try out the new buffer system with my ARMATAC drum, but it jammed up on loading, my reloads were to long, so that's another issue I hope to have the drum fixed before I go out again.
Link Posted: 11/16/2011 8:33:25 AM EST
I ordered one on Monday.  Also ordered the H3 and H4.  Hope to do some testing this weekend.  I also have a Pact MKIV which does ROF built in.
Will probably make a custom spacer from some Delrin this weekend so  I can use my large assortment of other carbine buffers with the A5 tube/rifle spring.

I'd like to hear the results everyone is getting.  Sounds like a great setup.
Link Posted: 11/17/2011 4:22:53 PM EST
I never had reliability issues with the M16 because I always used the A1 stock.  Now My SBR's were another story.  With them I managed to end up with the H,H1 and H2 buffers.  This was one of the reasons I never changed the A1 stock on the M16.  After going to the A5 stock on the M16 though I'm not looking back.  I would however like to have one spare buffer and spring for it.  I was thinking the other buffer's they sell for it are for caliber's other than 5.56 and or to slow the ROF even more.
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