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Posted: 5/25/2003 3:56:43 PM EDT
I want an ar15 with a retractable style butt stock., flat top upper, and a 14.5 inch barrel with a permanently affixed flash suppressor style muzzle break. What's the cheapest way to do this? Would buying the components separately and assembling them my self? or does a company make these like this?
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 4:16:09 PM EDT
norinco makes a cheap AR if you can find one.
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 6:37:42 PM EDT
Get a die and put Bushie, RRA, Oly, Colt, DPMS & Bushie again. Roll the die. Buy the weapon you roll. They all sell one, all are good makes, Just do it! GG
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 9:24:49 PM EDT
Theft. [;D]
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 9:58:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By napalm113: I want an ar15 with a retractable style butt stock., flat top upper, and a 14.5 inch barrel with a permanently affixed flash suppressor style muzzle break.
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The answer to that question is easily found by reading the forums
What's the cheapest way to do this? Would buying the components separately and assembling them my self? or does a company make these like this?
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This is a Felony -this all smells like [:K]
Link Posted: 5/25/2003 10:07:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By notack: This is a Felony -this all smells like [:K]
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He did say, "retractable [b]style[/b]." If you want a look-alike, you can save a little by foregoing the chrome-lined barrel. CDNN has some M4 foregrips with only a single heat shield for $20, not spec but would look the same. If you're getting optics you can skip the iron sights. If you really, really want to skimp get a cast lower receiver and buy the rest of the parts from the lowest bidder. Probably can get everything for around $550, not including shipping and transfer fees. I'd pay a little more and get the "real" thing. Well at least as real as Citizens can get these days.
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 2:05:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By notack:
Originally Posted By napalm113: I want an ar15 with a retractable style butt stock., flat top upper, and a 14.5 inch barrel with a permanently affixed flash suppressor style muzzle break.
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The answer to that question is easily found by reading the forums
What's the cheapest way to do this? Would buying the components separately and assembling them my self? or does a company make these like this?
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This is a Felony -this all smells like [:K]
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Maybe I missed something, but I smell {a$$hole}. Why do you call him a troll. I built mine from scratch, and it wasnt a felony. Have a coffee. GG
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 6:43:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/26/2003 6:45:52 PM EDT by napalm113]
My choice is narrowed down to one of these, right now I'm leaning towards the bush master https://tp-commerce.techpro.com/pantherarms/shopexd.asp?id=24 $850 http://www.impactguns.com/store/bushmaster_m4_miniy.html $870 http://www.impactguns.com/store/colt_mt6400C.html $995
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 8:43:28 PM EDT
Just wait till September of next year, then go buy one off the store shelf. (No FA and fixed FH of course)
Link Posted: 5/26/2003 11:01:48 PM EDT
you cant build an ar15 with a retractable stock, read up on the laws, all post ban ar15s have to have a fixed stock
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 1:56:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/27/2003 1:57:52 AM EDT by Stryfe]
He could build a rifle with a functioning collapsable stock, if he found a pre-ban receiver. Besides, look at his choices, I'm sure he's aware of the laws.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 3:30:45 AM EDT
The Bushmaster meets all your requirements, just be aware that everyone thinks the y comp is VERY loud ! ( you could replace it with a different brake )
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 4:59:33 AM EDT
You can get a forged lower receiver for about $90 and a post-ban kit from J&T Distributing for $500-$550 depending on options. Add a magazine and you're ready to go. It will take you an hour to put it all together.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 5:10:16 AM EDT
I second that one for J&T. The Kits are of great quality, You can check them out at www.star15.com j&tdistribution.com These people are great!! Service and quality are fantastic and they have been in the ar business for a long time.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 6:10:09 AM EDT
Win One In A Raffle !!! [ROFL2]
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 6:40:57 AM EDT
Buy mine! [img]http://staratari.home.attbi.com/rracomplete.jpg[/img] [img]http://staratari.home.attbi.com/slant.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 7:02:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/27/2003 10:48:31 AM EDT by JohnTheTexican]
I'll second the second on the J&T kits. I've built three of their kits and I've found them to be excellent quality and easy to assemble. You can get the post-ban M4 kit for about $550 delivered through [url=http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=159236&w=myTopicPop]CS223's group buy[/url] (5% off list plus free shipping). Add an Eagle Arms or Stinger stripped lower for $90-$100 and you've got a complete rifle for about $650. For another $50, you can add a chrome lined barrel. If you want the detachable carry handle, add another $65. Edited to add link.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 7:04:45 AM EDT
Originally Posted By napalm113: My choice is narrowed down to one of these, right now I'm leaning towards the bush master https://tp-commerce.techpro.com/pantherarms/shopexd.asp?id=24 $850 http://www.impactguns.com/store/bushmaster_m4_miniy.html $870 http://www.impactguns.com/store/colt_mt6400C.html $995
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Out of these, I would recommend the Colt and here are my reasons: 1. Comes standard with a 1/7 twist barrel. This is the same twist that the military M4s have and it will stabilize the heavier ammo, like M855. 2. Comes standard with the fatter, M4 style handguards. 3. Has a full 16" barrel so if you don't like having a comp you can remove it and still be legal. 4. Upper is stamped "M4" and lower is stamped "M4 Carbine". I know this doesn't have any impact on the way gun shoots but I thought it was cool. 5. The comp on the Colt isn't that bad. It's ugly but it's not very loud and doesn't send all the blast and gases back to the shooter. 6. Comes standard with the new style bolt carrier and bolt. 7. Comes standard with a side sling mount. Now, the Colt does not use milspec fire control pins. They use a larger size and this doesn't sit well with some (understandably0. If you can get passed the pin sizes the Colt is a fine rifle. May I also recommend another brand? Check out the DPMS M4's that [url]www.cmmginc.com[/url] sells. They use 14.5", 1/7 twist, 4150 barrels with Cav Comps already attached. The DPMS lowers use the milspec pin sizes and they come with the M4 style handguards and the prices are better than the Colts. I'm in the middle of building one of these and the quality is right up there with Colt and Bushmaster. Hopefully I'll have pictures and a comparison write up between my Colt 6400c and my new DPMS posted soon. Good luck with your decision!
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 11:13:19 AM EDT
Originally Posted By StarAtari: Buy mine! [url]http://staratari.home.attbi.com/rracomplete.jpg[/url] [url]http://staratari.home.attbi.com/slant.jpg[/url]
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Are you selling it?
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 11:26:22 AM EDT
another competitor has just stepped in $785 http://www.rockriverarms.com/m4_entry_tactical.htm with no tactical scope mount and a car style stock. I can add my own carrying handle
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 11:51:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/27/2003 12:01:10 PM EDT by StarAtari]
Originally Posted By napalm113:
Originally Posted By StarAtari: Buy mine! [url]http://staratari.home.attbi.com/rracomplete.jpg[/url] [url]http://staratari.home.attbi.com/slant.jpg[/url]
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Are you selling it?
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Yeah, I am. I wasn't going to list it for another week cause I'm leaving on a SCUBA trip tomorrow. I haven't decided on a price for it yet, but feel free to make an offer if you don't want to wait until next week. EDIT: forgot to put the specs! 16" chrome lined m4 profile barrel RRA US PROPERTY marked lower RRA NM 2 stage trigger and the rest you can tell from the picture. The upper was hand built by Pete of Legal Transfers. It's got 400 rounds through it and has never had a failure to feed or fire. I'll also throw in my 'tactical' soft case.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 12:01:29 PM EDT
I don't have the money now, but my birth day is in 7 days and I'm having a graduation party on the 13th, when my brother had his he got over $1000. What brand is that AR? does it have a chrome lined barrle?
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 12:06:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By napalm113: I don't have the money now, but my birth day is in 7 days and I'm having a graduation party on the 13th, when my brother had his he got over $1000. What brand is that AR? does it have a chrome lined barrle?
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I edited my above post to include the specs. It's a Rock River Arms, and yes, it has a chrome lined barrel/bore.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 1:31:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By thesacrifice: you cant build an ar15 with a retractable stock, read up on the laws, all post ban ar15s have to have a fixed stock
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Read his post. To bad you cant read. Retractable Style. GG
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 2:11:02 PM EDT
I edited my above post to include the specs. It's a Rock River Arms, and yes, it has a chrome lined barrel/bore.
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I've never bought a gun from a message board, do we need a ffl dealer to act as a go between?
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 2:56:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/27/2003 2:59:58 PM EDT by TomJefferson]
Originally Posted By napalm113:
I edited my above post to include the specs. It's a Rock River Arms, and yes, it has a chrome lined barrel/bore.
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I've never bought a gun from a message board, do we need a ffl dealer to act as a go between?
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Lars buddy, no one on this site is going to tell you to do anything illegal and buying a gun interstate without an FFL is illegal. Closest current production to what you want is a Bushmaster XM14 M4. You can pick one up for around $850 to $950 at your local Bushmaster dealer. It will have a FAKE collapsable stock, and muzzle brake and built to the LEGAL 16" barrel length. Less expensive would be to build one which you can buy a lower through a FFL and register like any firearm then buy a kit. This will save you $100 to $200. OK, I gave you the benifit of the doubt but your questions are way too green for someone with 177 posts unless you don't read just post. BTW, the Bushmaster has a chrome lined barrel and ribbed buttstock which is more like the military M4 rather than the CAR stock which is not ribbed.
Link Posted: 5/27/2003 3:00:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By napalm113:
I edited my above post to include the specs. It's a Rock River Arms, and yes, it has a chrome lined barrel/bore.
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I've never bought a gun from a message board, do we need a ffl dealer to act as a go between?
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Yeah. You would need to find a local FFL to do the transfer. Usually they charge $20 or so, mine does it for $10. Once you tell them you're doing the transfer they will mail me a signed copy of their license. Once I get that I can turn around and ship it to them. Once they get it you go to pick it up and they run the background check etc etc. It's not too bad.
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