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Posted: 9/11/2004 11:43:25 AM EST
including bolt ,charging handle. whats it worth new? used?
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:50:07 AM EST
No such animal that I'm aware of. Colt has the contract on the M4, and the last I heard (and I'm not an expert on this) FN doesn't make an M4.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:51:05 AM EST
Where are you getting an FN upper from? Correct me if I'm wrong, but they aren't allowed to sell to civilians, so it must either be a factory reject, or something obtained illegally.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:52:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By TNRonin:
No such animal that I'm aware of. Colt has the contract on the M4, and the last I heard (and I'm not an expert on this) FN doesn't make an M4.



Beat me to it.

USMC', is this a military upper that's had an M-4 BBL put on it or an after-market set-up?
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 1:29:20 PM EST
Not possible
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 1:33:09 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 2:55:33 AM EST
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/vilsk/Fun/upper.jpg

this is supposed to be it.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 3:01:20 AM EST
Can't tell much from the photo, but what everyone has said is correct.


A true M4 upper can only come from Colt

Any FN part isn't from them. It may be made by the same subcontractors, but FN isn't allowed to do civilian sales. Hence, it's likely a part that was rejected for use by FN.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 4:07:42 AM EST
FN upper??
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 4:17:14 AM EST
Wish I could find the "Oh, no. Not this shit again." picture, but here we go again.

That is likely not an FN upper, but FN parts DO find their way into the civlian market. Having been in the military for a while, I have seen first hand how sloppy the .gov stock system can be, so I'm not surprised in the least that .gov exclusive parts find their way into the market. I've had a gov't profile barrel marked "FNMI MP 5.56 NATO 1/7" and I presently have this A2 upper receiver, which is "F" marked and ARFCOM member wpnsman confirmed that it is an FN part. I also have a bolt marked "MPF", another FN part.

Link Posted: 9/12/2004 4:50:22 AM EST
mongo, you don't state what the length is on the bbl, and through my sleep hazy eyes I may have missed it. But I wasn't aware that FN made 16" bbls in the first place. Makes no sense for them since they don't make the M4 as we are aware. I like the FN thing (don't Fucking kNow where they came from).
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 5:22:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By TNRonin:
mongo, you don't state what the length is on the bbl, and through my sleep hazy eyes I may have missed it. But I wasn't aware that FN made 16" bbls in the first place. Makes no sense for them since they don't make the M4 as we are aware. I like the FN thing (don't Fucking kNow where they came from).



Sorry, 20" gov't profile, just like on the M16A4s they supply to the gov't.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 6:13:12 AM EST
Some FN uppers and A2 barrels have found their way into the civie market, probably as milsurp disposal pieces by Army disposal officers, as the M4 flat top units have become standard. So there is no reason to suspect that Mongo's piece is anything but perfectly OK.

M4 stuff by FN? Total and complete BS.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 6:53:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By shamayim:
Some FN uppers and A2 barrels have found their way into the civie market, probably as milsurp disposal pieces by Army disposal officers, as the M4 flat top units have become standard. So there is no reason to suspect that Mongo's piece is anything but perfectly OK.

M4 stuff by FN? Total and complete BS.



That's what I figured. But I wonder how or why they made it out. The barrel I hadlooked like new inside and out. No residue anywhere. The receiver you see pictured above shows no wear inside or out also. The bolt I have is used, but functions perfectly in a rifle I have it installed in.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 7:10:58 AM EST

Originally Posted By mongo001:

Originally Posted By shamayim:
Some FN uppers and A2 barrels have found their way into the civie market, probably as milsurp disposal pieces by Army disposal officers, as the M4 flat top units have become standard. So there is no reason to suspect that Mongo's piece is anything but perfectly OK.

M4 stuff by FN? Total and complete BS.



That's what I figured. But I wonder how or why they made it out. The barrel I hadlooked like new inside and out. No residue anywhere. The receiver you see pictured above shows no wear inside or out also. The bolt I have is used, but functions perfectly in a rifle I have it installed in.



A few years ago (3-4?) there were a bunch of M-16A2 kits that were imported from somewhere in south America. They were a smokin' deal at the time because you got the whole kit (Less lower) for under $300 and alot of the guys that bought 'em around here said that some of them looked almost un-issued.

If I remember correctly they were FN guns.

We had guys here buying them and selling just the uppers for what they paid for the whole kit and keeping the BCCH, lower parts and butt-stocks.
Link Posted: 9/12/2004 7:15:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By mongo001:
Wish I could find the "Oh, no. Not this shit again." picture, but here we go again.

That is likely not an FN upper, but FN parts DO find their way into the civlian market. Having been in the military for a while, I have seen first hand how sloppy the .gov stock system can be, so I'm not surprised in the least that .gov exclusive parts find their way into the market. I've had a gov't profile barrel marked "FNMI MP 5.56 NATO 1/7" and I presently have this A2 upper receiver, which is "F" marked and ARFCOM member wpnsman confirmed that it is an FN part. I also have a bolt marked "MPF", another FN part.

www.hunt101.com/img/181352.JPG



You mean?

Link Posted: 9/12/2004 11:27:06 AM EST
so what is a ball park figure on what the upper in the pic is worth/including the mepro M21
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