assault weapon. The availability of military-style assault weapons poses
   2  a serious threat to the public health and safety. Most citizens, includ-
   3  ing  most  gun owners, believe that assault weapons should not be avail-
   4  able for civilian use.
   5    S 2. Subdivision 22 of section 265.00 of the penal law is REPEALED and
   6  a new subdivision 22 is added to read as follows:
   7    22. "ASSAULT WEAPON" MEANS ANY:
   8    (A)  SEMI-AUTOMATIC  OR  PUMP-ACTION  RIFLE  THAT  HAS THE CAPACITY TO
   9  ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE AND HAS ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING:   10    (I) A PISTOL GRIP;
  11    (II) A SECOND HANDGRIP OR A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN BE  HELD  BY  THE
  12  NON-TRIGGER HAND;
  13    (III) A FOLDING, TELESCOPING OR THUMBHOLE STOCK;
  14    (IV)  A SHROUD ATTACHED TO THE BARREL, OR THAT PARTIALLY OR COMPLETELY
  15  ENCIRCLES THE BARREL, ALLOWING THE BEARER TO HOLD THE FIREARM  WITH  THE
  16  NON-TRIGGER  HAND  WITHOUT  BEING  BURNED,  BUT  EXCLUDING  A SLIDE THAT
  17  ENCLOSES THE BARREL; OR
  18    (V) A MUZZLE BRAKE OR MUZZLE COMPENSATOR;
  19    (B) SEMI-AUTOMATIC PISTOL, OR  ANY  SEMI-AUTOMATIC,  CENTERFIRE  RIFLE
  20  WITH  A  FIXED  MAGAZINE,  THAT HAS THE CAPACITY TO ACCEPT MORE THAN TEN
  21  ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION;
  22    (C) SEMI-AUTOMATIC PISTOL THAT HAS THE CAPACITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE
  23  MAGAZINE AND HAS ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING:
  24    (I) A SECOND HANDGRIP OR A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN  BE  HELD  BY  THE
  25  NON-TRIGGER HAND;
  26    (II) A FOLDING, TELESCOPING OR THUMBHOLE STOCK;
  27    (III) A SHROUD ATTACHED TO THE BARREL, OR THAT PARTIALLY OR COMPLETELY
  28  ENCIRCLES  THE  BARREL, ALLOWING THE BEARER TO HOLD THE FIREARM WITH THE
  29  NON-TRIGGER HAND WITHOUT  BEING  BURNED,  BUT  EXCLUDING  A  SLIDE  THAT
  30  ENCLOSES THE BARREL;
  31    (IV) A MUZZLE BRAKE OR MUZZLE COMPENSATOR; OR
  32    (V)  THE  CAPACITY  TO  ACCEPT  A  DETACHABLE MAGAZINE AT ANY LOCATION
  33  OUTSIDE OF THE PISTOL GRIP;
  34    (D) SEMI-AUTOMATIC SHOTGUN THAT HAS ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING:
  35    (I) A PISTOL GRIP OR A VERTICAL HANDGRIP;
  36    (II) A FOLDING, TELESCOPING OR THUMBHOLE STOCK;
  37    (III) A FIXED MAGAZINE CAPACITY IN EXCESS OF FIVE ROUNDS; OR
  38    (IV) AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE;
  39    (E) SHOTGUN WITH A REVOLVING CYLINDER;
  40    (F) CONVERSION KIT, PART, OR  COMBINATION  OF  PARTS,  FROM  WHICH  AN
  41  ASSAULT  WEAPON CAN BE ASSEMBLED IF THOSE PARTS ARE IN THE POSSESSION OR
  42  UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE SAME PERSON; OR
  43    (G) MODIFICATIONS OF SUCH FEATURES, OR OTHER FEATURES,  DETERMINED  BY
  44  RULES  AND  REGULATIONS  OF  THE  SUPERINTENDENT  OF  STATE POLICE TO BE
  45  PARTICULARLY SUITABLE FOR MILITARY AND NOT SPORTING PURPOSES.  IN  ADDI-
  46  TION,  THE  SUPERINTENDENT  OF  STATE  POLICE  SHALL, BY RULES AND REGU-
  47  LATIONS, DESIGNATE SPECIFIC SEMIAUTOMATIC CENTERFIRE OR  RIMFIRE  RIFLES
  48  OR  SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUNS, IDENTIFIED BY MAKE, MODEL AND MANUFACTURER`S
  49  NAME, TO BE WITHIN THE DEFINITION OF ASSAULT WEAPON, IF THE  SUPERINTEN-
  50  DENT OF STATE POLICE DETERMINES THAT SUCH WEAPONS ARE PARTICULARLY SUIT-
  51  ABLE  FOR MILITARY AND NOT SPORTING PURPOSES. A LIST OF ASSAULT WEAPONS,
  52  AS DETERMINED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT  OF  STATE  POLICE,  SHALL  BE  MADE
  53  AVAILABLE ON A REGULAR BASIS TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
  54    PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THAT SUCH TERM DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY WEAPON THAT HAS
  55  BEEN RENDERED PERMANENTLY INOPERABLE.

      A. 2466--A                          3

   1    S  3.  Section  265.00 of the penal law is amended by adding three new
   2  subdivisions 24, 25  and 26 to read as follows:
   3    24.  "DETACHABLE  MAGAZINE"  MEANS  ANY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE, THE
   4  FUNCTION OF WHICH IS TO DELIVER ONE OR MORE AMMUNITION  CARTRIDGES  INTO
   5  THE  FIRING  CHAMBER,  WHICH CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE FIREARM WITHOUT THE
   6  USE OF ANY TOOL, INCLUDING A BULLET OR AMMUNITION CARTRIDGE.
   7    25. "MUZZLE BRAKE" MEANS A DEVICE ATTACHED TO THE MUZZLE OF  A  WEAPON
   8  THAT UTILIZES ESCAPING GAS TO REDUCE RECOIL.
   9    26.  "MUZZLE  COMPENSATOR"  MEANS A DEVICE ATTACHED TO THE MUZZLE OF A
  10  WEAPON THAT UTILIZES ESCAPING GAS TO CONTROL MUZZLE MOVEMENT.
  11    S 4. Section 265.20 of the penal law is amended by adding a new subdi-
  12  vision d to read as follows:
  13    D. POSSESSION OF AN ASSAULT WEAPON ON PROPERTY  OWNED  OR  IMMEDIATELY
  14  CONTROLLED  BY  THE  PERSON,  OR  WHILE  ON  THE  PREMISES OF A LICENSED
  15  GUNSMITH FOR THE PURPOSE OF LAWFUL REPAIR, OR WHILE ENGAGED IN THE LEGAL
  16  USE OF THE ASSAULT WEAPON AT A DULY  LICENSED  FIRING  RANGE,  OR  WHILE
  17  TRAVELING TO OR FROM THESE LOCATIONS, BY A PERSON WHO LAWFULLY POSSESSED
  18  SUCH WEAPON PRIOR TO JANUARY FIRST, TWO THOUSAND SEVEN AND WHO, PRIOR TO
  19  APRIL FIRST, TWO THOUSAND SEVEN:
  20    1. RENDERS THE ASSAULT WEAPON PERMANENTLY INOPERABLE; OR
  21    2.  SURRENDERS  THE  ASSAULT WEAPON TO THE APPROPRIATE LAW ENFORCEMENT
  22  AGENCY AS PROVIDED FOR IN SUBPARAGRAPH (F) OF PARAGRAPH ONE OF  SUBDIVI-
  23  SION A OF THIS SECTION; OR
  24    3.  REGISTERS  THE ASSAULT WEAPON AS PROVIDED FOR IN SUBDIVISION SEVEN
  25  OF SECTION THREE HUNDRED NINETY-SIX-FF OF THE GENERAL BUSINESS LAW.
  26    S 5. Subdivision 7 of section 396-ff of the general  business  law  is
  27  renumbered  subdivision  8  and  a new subdivision 7 is added to read as
  28  follows:
  29    (7) THE DIVISION OF STATE POLICE SHALL NO LATER  THAN  JANUARY  FIRST,
  30  TWO THOUSAND SEVEN, PROMULGATE RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR THE ADDITION OF
  31  INFORMATION  IDENTIFYING  ASSAULT  WEAPONS  LAWFULLY  POSSESSED PRIOR TO
  32  JANUARY FIRST, TWO THOUSAND SEVEN TO THE DATABANK  ESTABLISHED  BY  THIS
  33  SECTION.  SUCH RULES AND REGULATIONS SHALL, AT A MINIMUM, SPECIFY PROCE-
  34  DURES BY WHICH THE OWNER OF AN ASSAULT WEAPON LAWFULLY  POSSESSED  PRIOR
  35  TO JANUARY FIRST, TWO THOUSAND SEVEN IS TO DELIVER AN ASSAULT WEAPON AND
  36  VERIFICATION  OF  A  BACKGROUND  CHECK  REQUIRED  BY 18 USC S 922 TO THE
  37  REGIONAL PROGRAM FOR TESTING AND PROMPT  RETURN.  UPON  RECEIPT  OF  THE
  38  SEALED  CONTAINER  AND  INSPECTION OF A CERTIFICATE PROVING THAT A BACK-
  39  GROUND CHECK HAS BEEN CONDUCTED AND THE OWNER  IS  NOT  PROHIBITED  FROM
  40  POSSESSING  A  FIREARM,  THE  DIVISION OF STATE POLICE SHALL CAUSE TO BE
  41  ENTERED IN THE AUTOMATED ELECTRONIC DATABANK PERTINENT  DATA,  INCLUDING
  42  BALLISTIC INFORMATION RELEVANT TO IDENTIFICATION OF THE SHELL CASING AND
  43  TO  THE  ASSAULT  WEAPON  FROM WHICH IT WAS DISCHARGED, AND THE DATE AND
  44  PLACE OF THE BACKGROUND  CHECK  AND  THE  NAME  OF  THE  INDIVIDUAL  WHO
  45  CONDUCTED SUCH BACKGROUND CHECK.
  46    S  6.  Severability.  If  any provision or term of this act is for any
  47  reason declared unconstitutional or invalid or ineffective by any  court
  48  of  competent  jurisdiction, such decision shall not affect the validity
  49  or the effectiveness of the remaining portions of this act or  any  part
  50  thereof.
  51    S 7. This act shall take effect January 1, 2007.


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AGNTSA........

I think I'm gonna be sick.....

Whos sponsoring that bill? Is this a current bill in the NY legislature? You should post a link to the bill text.

NY peeps should post a link in their forums and the legislative calendar, you can look up individual bills and then post when hearings are held. They also need to see what support if any it has in their legislature.

That bill is fucked up.

Quote: Most citizens, including  most  gun owners, believe that assault weapons should not be available for civilian use.

Unbelievable, simply unbelievable. If I were a citizen of NY I would ask these scumbag politicians (yes, these particular politicians have earned the "scumbag" trademark for this statement alone) for data to back up this claim. Not only are these butt droppings being unconstitutional but they are insulting everyone's intelligents at the same time.....at least gun owner's intelligents anyways.

I really pray they dont do something like this in Texas

Quoted: I really pray they dont do something like this in Texas hinking.gif

I am willing to bet that Texas will be the last bastion of gun sanity in the US.  

This bill in NY doesn't surprise me, seriously, look at the senators.  Chucky and Hillary?  I love the part, and it's been pointed out, that gun owners don't even think these rifles should be legal.  Come again?  I don't know a gun owner that wouldn't atleast like to have an AR/AK or something.  What gets me is that stuff like forward handles and barrel shrouds scares the shit out of them.  What makes them think that someone willing to commit a crime with a firearm will go forth and commit said crime while adhering to "gun control" laws?  Idiots...

What is NY trying to take the title away from CA as the worst state in the country.

If this is true, you NY-ers better get busy... busy either fighting this or moving.

Quoted: What is NY trying to take the title away from CA as the worst state in the country. If this is true, you NY-ers better get busy... busy either fighting this or moving.

or actually doing what the damn constitution says and defending your 2nd amendment rights by want ever means necessary, things like this just remind me why I’m not a liberal fag

"No government can be trusted, that does not trust its own people with military-style arms of greater weight and power than those possessed by the central government itself."
- Vin Suprinowicz

WOW....looks almost verbatim to CA's 2k law, which finally did away with most semi-auto's there.

This is ludicrous.  I would be calling my State legislators immediately.

If not, I would file a lawsuit against this.  It is gun confiscation and a permanent database of all gun owners who owned an AR before January 2007?  Sounds to me that they are building that database for future confiscations, like your pistols and shotguns as well.

Christ, do we ever need a SCOTUS ruling that states the 2nd Amendment cannot be infringed upon.

I feel for you NY'ers - and as an LEO my thoughts are that everyone (read no felons or mental whack jobs) should be allowed to own firearms.

Kenny

Never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, never register, etc

Quoted: I really pray they dont do something like this in Texas

SOme nut from Austin tries to pass an AW ban every year, I think, but it never gets past the Criminal Justice committee.

fight every bill that is proposed,!!!!!!!!!
once one small anti gun bill passes others will find there way in easier

FIGHT THOSE bastard comunist control freeks that represent 10% of our nations population F THEM ALL call your congressman or woman


anyway i feel better now that i have ranted thank GOD i dont live in NY
we are a little less communist here in Maryland but not much less


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Thanks Hillary

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Quoted: Most citizens, including  most  gun owners, believe that assault weapons should not be available for civilian use. Unbelievable, simply unbelievable. If I were a citizen of NY I would ask these scumbag politicians (yes, these particular politicians have earned the "scumbag" trademark for this statement alone) for data to back up this claim. Not only are these butt droppings being unconstitutional but they are insulting everyone's intelligents at the same time.....at least gun owner's intelligents anyways.

"When you say 'Most citizens, including  most  gun owners, believe that assault weapons should not be available for civilian use,' could you please cite your source.  Actually, that was not a question.  Cite your source.  Thank you."

Quoted: Quoted: What is NY trying to take the title away from CA as the worst state in the country. If this is true, you NY-ers better get busy... busy either fighting this or moving. or actually doing what the damn constitution says and defending your 2nd amendment rights by want ever means necessary, things like this just remind me why I’m not a liberal fag "No government can be trusted, that does not trust its own people with military-style arms of greater weight and power than those possessed by the central government itself." - Vin Suprinowicz

Similar:

"How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual...as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded over, controlled, supervised, and taken care of." - Rep. Suzanna Hupp of Texas

I work with many liberal moonbats (campus of a major university).  In the parking lot, I still see Kerry/Edwards bumperstickers.

I have asked this question on more than one occasion to the "Kanye Crowd" ('George Bush hates black people'): If you don't like the military, and don't trust the gov't (especially the Bush administration), why are you so ready, willing, and eager to give them a monopoly on the use of force in this country?

I haven't had a straight answer yet; just a bunch of hem-hawing.

Quoted: fight every bill that is proposed,!!!!!!!!! once one small anti gun bill passes others will find there way in easier FIGHT THOSE bastard comunist control freeks that represent 10% of our nations population F THEM ALL call your congressman or woman anyway i feel better now that i have ranted thank GOD i dont live in NY we are a little less communist here in Maryland but not much less Hanna

Can't afford to even let the proverbial camel's nose in the tent.

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HAVE A NICE DAY!

That's all the hometown forum for NY ever talks about.  It's one friggin  bill after another.   There is no time to enjoy owning a gun in PRNY because you are too busy fighting the people who are supposed to be representing you.

A-Wipe looks like he's having fun ......why couldn't that kaboom and put his no safety glass wearing eyes out .

Bomber

That is crap. If people were left with dull spoons to defend themselves with those turds would try and ban those too. Glad I live in Texas. I will go throw up now.

FUCKIN' A. who the hell comes up with this shit. You guys in new york need to fight like hell against this. And same for any bill like it any wear. Once one bullshit bill passes, it just clears a path for more bullshit!.  what do they think banning guns will accomplish? crime rates wont go down and people wont be any safer w/o them. when will they learn. And wear the hell did they get the idea that gun owners dont like guns ( or "assult weapons" in this case )? are they on crack?  if guns owners did like them or think that citizens should have them, then they would spend thousands of dollars on them every year. and brfore i forget ... fuck hillary.

WHEW

Quoted: Quoted: Most citizens, including  most  gun owners, believe that assault weapons should not be available for civilian use. Unbelievable, simply unbelievable. If I were a citizen of NY I would ask these scumbag politicians (yes, these particular politicians have earned the "scumbag" trademark for this statement alone) for data to back up this claim. Not only are these butt droppings being unconstitutional but they are insulting everyone's intelligents at the same time.....at least gun owner's intelligents anyways. "When you say 'Most citizens, including  most  gun owners, believe that assault weapons should not be available for civilian use,' could you please cite your source.  Actually, that was not a question.  Cite your source.  Thank you."

Line 2, 3, and 4 at the top of the thread. I can't tell you where the law comes from though.

assault weapon. The availability of military-style assault weapons poses 2 a serious threat to the public health and safety. Most citizens, includ- 3 ing most gun owners, believe that assault weapons should not be avail- 4 able for civilian use. 5 S 2. Subdivision 22 of section 265.00 of the penal law is REPEALED and 6 a new subdivision 22 is added to read as follows:

saw this coming.  and what democrats are going to be running in the next election.  its gonna get worse.

Razorbacks!
Illinaye !
Please take Hillary Back.
We can keep whats his face.  Someone has to service the desperate housewives of upper Westchester County.

Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. --- Thomas Jefferson in "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764

Quoted: Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. --- Thomas Jefferson in "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764

If TJ was only alive today.  

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Most citizens, including  most  gun owners, believe that assault weapons should not be available for civilian use. Unbelievable, simply unbelievable. If I were a citizen of NY I would ask these scumbag politicians (yes, these particular politicians have earned the "scumbag" trademark for this statement alone) for data to back up this claim. Not only are these butt droppings being unconstitutional but they are insulting everyone's intelligents at the same time.....at least gun owner's intelligents anyways. "When you say 'Most citizens, including  most  gun owners, believe that assault weapons should not be available for civilian use,' could you please cite your source.  Actually, that was not a question.  Cite your source.  Thank you." Line 2, 3, and 4 at the top of the thread. I can't tell you where the law comes from though. assault weapon. The availability of military-style assault weapons poses 2 a serious threat to the public health and safety. Most citizens, includ- 3 ing most gun owners, believe that assault weapons should not be avail- 4 able for civilian use. 5 S 2. Subdivision 22 of section 265.00 of the penal law is REPEALED and 6 a new subdivision 22 is added to read as follows:

Sorry, guess I should've been more clear.  My reply wasn't a question for Mark; it was intended to be the logical response, during the bill testimony, to whomever was proposing said bill.