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Posted: 10/10/2004 8:13:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2004 1:45:29 PM EST by DvlDog]
in the new issue of SGN there is an article about french military cartridges through history. at the very end it mentions that the frogs are in the midst of transitioning to a new model of FAMAS so they can shoot the NATO standard SS109. it mentions their old round was a 55gr steel case round at 3100fps. ive never seen any french mil-surp ammo of anykind but do any of you guys in the ammo biz or the dealer biz in general think this stuff may hit the surplus market???
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 8:29:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2004 3:22:40 PM EST by _DR]
Never mind
Link Posted: 10/10/2004 8:32:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By DvlDog:


ive never seen any french mil-surp ammo of anykind





The French used ammo
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:30:17 AM EST
im not sure how telling me a bunch of stuff i already know about NATO spec ammunition is pertinent to this discussion. my question was whether or not anyone has seen french ammo and how interesting it might be to have a steel cased M193 type round.

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*youre wrong _DR, NATO did not use M193. some countries that transitioned to 5.56 early adopted the M193 formula because its what was proven effective by the USA but SS109 is the first and only NATO standard 5.56mm fmj round
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:09:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By DvlDog:
im not sure how telling me a bunch of stuff i already know about NATO spec ammunition is pertinent to this discussion. my question was whether or not anyone has seen french ammo and how interesting it might be to have a steel cased M193 type round.

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*youre wrong _DR, NATO did not use M193. some countries that transitioned to 5.56 early adopted the M193 formula because its what was proven effective by the USA but SS109 is the first and only NATO standard 5.56mm fmj round



Who pissed in your Cheerios? jeez...
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:29:01 AM EST

Originally Posted By dpmmn:

Originally Posted By DvlDog:


ive never seen any french mil-surp ammo of anykind





The French used ammo





Nah, they just store it. It's kind of related to planting trees on both side of French roads.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 7:13:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2004 3:23:38 PM EST by _DR]
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Link Posted: 10/11/2004 7:32:43 AM EST
And while you're at it, DvlDog, explain why this thread isn't in the Ammuniton Forum.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 7:56:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By El_Roto:
And while you're at it, DvlDog, explain why this thread isn't in the Ammuniton Forum.



Becuase this is General AR discussions, where we discuss everything AR related.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 9:59:35 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2004 10:05:17 AM EST by El_Roto]
Sorry, I didn't know the French used M16s.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 11:30:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By El_Roto:
Sorry, I didn't know the French used M16s.



Don't be an idiot. This thread isn't about French rifles, it's about French 5.56 ammo, which oddly enough, works in ARs.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 11:44:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2004 3:23:15 PM EST by _DR]
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Link Posted: 10/11/2004 11:52:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2004 11:52:22 AM EST by Bklyn_Irish]

Originally Posted By ChuckT:

Originally Posted By dpmmn:

Originally Posted By DvlDog:


ive never seen any french mil-surp ammo of anykind





The French used ammo





Nah, they just store it. It's kind of related to planting trees on both side of French roads.



So the Germans can march in the shade?
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 11:59:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By Bklyn_Irish:

Originally Posted By ChuckT:

Originally Posted By dpmmn:

Originally Posted By DvlDog:


ive never seen any french mil-surp ammo of anykind





The French used ammo





Nah, they just store it. It's kind of related to planting trees on both side of French roads.



So the Germans can march in the shade?



Link Posted: 10/11/2004 12:24:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By Corporal_Chaos:

Originally Posted By El_Roto:
Sorry, I didn't know the French used M16s.



Don't be an idiot. This thread isn't about French rifles, it's about French 5.56 ammo, which oddly enough, works in ARs.



Cool, I'll start a thread about Mini-14s soon. They use 5.56 ammo, which oddly enough...
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 1:07:19 PM EST

Originally Posted By El_Roto:

Originally Posted By Corporal_Chaos:

Originally Posted By El_Roto:
Sorry, I didn't know the French used M16s.



Don't be an idiot. This thread isn't about French rifles, it's about French 5.56 ammo, which oddly enough, works in ARs.



Cool, I'll start a thread about Mini-14s soon. They use 5.56 ammo, which oddly enough...



Once again, this isn't about the FAMAS! Stop crapping on the guy's thread.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 1:54:00 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 2:24:01 PM EST
Have the French had problems with the lack of a trrigger guard on the FAMAS? I'd think it would be a potential AD when they inevitably drop it. Maybe it makes it faster to throw it to the ground...
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 3:33:24 PM EST
dammit i was trying to talk about the ammo and all you toolsheds want to talk about the FAMAS..please lock this hijacked thread
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 4:51:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By DvlDog:
dammit i was trying to talk about the ammo and all you toolsheds want to talk about the FAMAS..please lock this hijacked thread



Hey, I tried.
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:00:10 PM EST
Best changed title ever.

I shat upon the IBTL
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:36:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2004 5:41:46 PM EST by Jimmy_Hoffa]

Originally Posted By Jeepster:
Have the French had problems with the lack of a trrigger guard on the FAMAS? I'd think it would be a potential AD when they inevitably drop it. Maybe it makes it faster to throw it to the ground...


The original FAMAS F1 did have a trigger guard, the new G2 does not. Not very specific now were we?
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:42:08 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 5:46:23 PM EST

IBTL
Link Posted: 10/11/2004 6:07:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2004 6:07:58 PM EST by Aimless]
locked at thread originator's request
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