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Posted: 10/17/2004 8:58:06 AM EDT
the only difference is the profie and a little bit of weight

not to mention $60 more for the m-4

yalls opinion??
Link Posted: 10/17/2004 8:59:11 AM EDT
There is realy no difference, just personal prefference...
Link Posted: 10/29/2004 10:47:32 AM EDT
People here generally pic the M4, cuz it looks cool.

A brilliant decision making process.
Link Posted: 10/29/2004 10:57:17 AM EDT
yes, it  does require loys of thought
Link Posted: 10/29/2004 11:07:53 AM EDT
Actually I'm an Hbar guy, but I must admit liking the light weight of the M4 in the last class I took.
Link Posted: 10/29/2004 11:44:50 AM EDT

M4 - Less weight in the barrel means you can carry more ammo.
Link Posted: 10/29/2004 11:47:19 AM EDT
I agree I love HBARS but picked a 14.5 because even with the pantom its still over all shorter than a 16".being able to take off a supressor is not a big deal because if I need Ill just change out the whole assembly.The 11.5 is a waste because we have to have a permanent 5.5 supressor and that would be better served by barrel instead of supressor.The 11.5s greatest asset is its compactness with a regular birdcage something civies cant have unless you have a permit for an SBR.people will say velocity is a factor and it is and this is where a 16" is not needed for the little extra you get from it.The last 60 years has shown that 90% of engagements take place at under 100yds and 75% of them under 50 so the velocity a 14.5 provides is plenty enough for the most likely real world ranges you would encounter.I like HBARS because they take the heat better especially for rapid fire although they take longer to cool.Besides an HBAR carbine loaded is the same weight as a standard size loaded Govt A2 so the extra 1/2 pound increase over a real M4A1 that uses the new heavier barrel is a negligible increase.AS far as less barrel weight to more ammo,the ratio would be an extra mag as they weigh a pound loaded and an HBAR has a pound over a standard M4 profile so increase in ammo is very small.My gear plus the 2 mags on a mag cinch comes to 16 if I need extra Ill add another pouch.More people hang gadgets that way more than a barrel on their rifles so weight seems not to be a concern to most.
Link Posted: 10/29/2004 11:48:15 AM EDT
M4 for my 13 yr old daughter "cause it looks soooo awesome,daddy"
Link Posted: 10/29/2004 11:50:14 AM EDT
I voted 'Other' - go for the Lightweight Profile Bushy and Colt offer them.

All you got to lose is a whole lot of uneeded weight.
Link Posted: 10/29/2004 11:56:46 AM EDT
Weight is a non issue for most, but I was appreciating is after eight hours last week.
Link Posted: 10/29/2004 11:57:16 AM EDT
I prefer the old standard 16 inch pencil barrel Government Carbine.

I like a carbine to be as light and simple as possible. Sorta KISS principle.

Link Posted: 10/30/2004 1:14:25 AM EDT
those pencil bbls look so fragile

i too like the HBAR, but the m-4 is starting to look good too...
Link Posted: 10/30/2004 1:25:32 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/30/2004 1:27:03 AM EDT
straight, smooth bbl, no indention for the m203 grenade launcher
Link Posted: 10/30/2004 10:47:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/30/2004 10:51:24 PM EDT
Get all Three!!!
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