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Posted: 10/19/2004 5:24:46 AM EST
I bought an upper in 6.8 and now im seeing reports that the cartridge could be in "trouble". Somebody please clear this up! The report I saw was on www.defensereview.com
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 5:33:19 AM EST
Why would it be in trouble? Much to everyones confusion this round wasn't made to replace 5.56 except as a Special Purpose Cartridge for use by the 5th Special Forces Group.

Remington is making ammo for them, they are also making brass. The round is here to stay even if just for the civi market. Like everything new give it some time to get up and running. Also Rem is still talking about a rifle in that cal.

in the meantime I think you can buy loaded ammo from http://www.pcammunition.com/
(I just found this link this morning)
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 5:43:23 AM EST
HOLY COW that's like $1.00 per round!!!!
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 5:46:12 AM EST
Didn't say it was cheap. Supply and Demand.

reload
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 5:51:10 AM EST
Even reloading 110V-max, 30gr H335, CCI primers, Brass- the cost comes out to 60-70 cents a round
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 5:51:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By Smithy:
..... The report I saw was on www.defensereview.com




uhhh......
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 6:27:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By poppinsexz:
Why would it be in trouble? Much to everyones confusion this round wasn't made to replace 5.56 except as a Special Purpose Cartridge for use by the 5th Special Forces Group.
Remington is making ammo for them, they are also making brass. The round is here to stay even if just for the civi market. Like everything new give it some time to get up and running. Also Rem is still talking about a rifle in that cal.

in the meantime I think you can buy loaded ammo from http://www.pcammunition.com/
(I just found this link this morning)



They must be loading their own. The initial Remington are 115gr OTM and a 115gr Sierra MatchKing.
Wonder if its actual 6.8 brass or .30Rem. Their stated velocities (2800fps) are higher than any I've seen posted for any of the 110gr bullets unless Remington has given them the powder they are using.
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 7:43:41 AM EST
Have patience. 6.8SPC is not dead. Remington's ammo is going to the military right now. D.R. has been known to publish completely inaccurate stories.

With regard to PCA's velocity, since they are presumably a Class 06 FFL in the ammo manufacturing business, they can get all sorts of OEM/Bulk powders that us end-user reloaders cannot get.

-z
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 7:52:18 AM EST
I didn't see what length barrel they were using for their velocity stats -- probably 24" or even 26" which would make 2,800 FPS easier to obtain. Still not too shabby as I have read that the 6.8 SPC gains only 17-20 fps per inch of barrel once you get past 18" or so.
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 8:03:34 AM EST
STOP READING www.defensereview.com
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 8:16:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/19/2004 8:20:38 AM EST by 223Rem]

Originally Posted By poppinsexz:
Even reloading 110V-max, 30gr H335, CCI primers, Brass- the cost comes out to 60-70 cents a round



Maybe for the first loading (including the cost of the dies), but after that your are looking at $0.25 per round. New brass always increases the cost for the initial loading.
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 8:25:57 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/19/2004 8:35:32 AM EST by poppinsexz]
the brass cost 20-25 cents apiece and you will have to replace it sometime,usually 6-10 shots is all you get.

so I stand corrected it will probebly average out to about 40 cents a shot plus or minus

V-max $19.99 for 100
primers $1.50+ for 100
powder $19 a pound (7000 gr to a lb 7000/30= 233 loads=.09 cents a shot
replenishment of brass 25 cents a piece / 6 or 10
Time it takes to reload
brass cleaner
electricity for the tumbler
on and on and on...

prices vary this was a close guess

Edited
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 9:22:00 AM EST
new Lake City XM193 is about $0.20/rd

I dunno, but unless you absolutely need 6.8mm SPC (Law Enforcement? Military???) I don't see the point.
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 10:15:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By metroplex:
I dunno, but unless you absolutely need 6.8mm SPC (Law Enforcement? Military???) I don't see the point.


For plinking and target practice there is no point. But for defensive/hunting use, it should produce significantly larger wounds.

The ammo price may eventually go down. Remington usually price gouges with new cartridges, more than the other producers. When we have other sources, the prices will probably drop.
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