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Posted: 10/16/2008 10:54:55 AM EDT
just like the topic says

how many run a 16" HBar?

i am curious since i see lots and lots of M4 barrels
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 10:56:55 AM EDT
[#1]
16" H-Bar with Spike's Fake Can.



Link Posted: 10/16/2008 11:05:11 AM EDT
[#2]
I have a Bushmaster 16" HBAR.  I like it, but I wish it was a lightweight.  I've thought about having ADCO turn it down and shorten it to 14.7" for me, but I haven't been able to talk myself into spending the money.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 11:09:54 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
I have a Bushmaster 16" HBAR.  I like it, but I wish it was a lightweight.  I've thought about having ADCO turn it down and shorten it to 14.7" for me, but I haven't been able to talk myself into spending the money.



this is why I ask.  I am thinking the same thing
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 11:17:05 AM EDT
[#4]
I have several and love the 16 inch middie but it is a little heavy to carry.  When carrying I go with my 14.5 car or the 11.5 SBR.  The RRA 16 is very accurate.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 11:23:15 AM EDT
[#5]
love my hbar

i don't know how much heavier it is then a m4 cut but its very accurate
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 12:01:06 PM EDT
[#6]
i had one and it was a little heavy but managable. I now have a new Operator barrel from Denny's which is a medium weight Mid length barrel and its much better.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 12:06:46 PM EDT
[#7]
I had a Bushy that shot well. I should have kept it.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 12:15:04 PM EDT
[#8]
Mine is a 16'' HBAR. The weight does not bother me at all. But I may be stronger than most of your average guys too. Mine shoots great. I have nearly 10k rounds down the pipe of a non-chrome lined RRA upper and it has not had one malfunction.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 12:51:14 PM EDT
[#9]
It's not the weight, it's the balance.  Especially once you put a light and VFG on it.  It just doesn't have the "quick and agile" feel that a carbine should have.  I've also thought about putting a UBR on it to add some weight to the back end for balance.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 12:51:50 PM EDT
[#10]
I am running a Del-Ton custom-built HBAR upper.

Link Posted: 10/16/2008 1:11:59 PM EDT
[#11]
Getting my 16" HBAR turned down to LW as we speak.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 1:22:07 PM EDT
[#12]
I have a 16" hbar on my del ton middy
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 1:23:18 PM EDT
[#13]
I have a 16" hbar on my del ton middy, a little front heavy when I have the stock all the way in but you get used to it fast
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 2:24:35 PM EDT
[#14]
Colonel Colt's finest 6721LE right up front, thank you !   She packs a massive 16"
HBAR, and with a fixed A2 butt, M4 handies, and MIAD in place...the balance is perfect, which
makes the big girl feel lighter than she is.  Yeah, I got plenty of carbines with
lighter barrels, but this one feels soooo right !  
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 2:30:01 PM EDT
[#15]
Yep that I made a dedicated .22lr.  Unbalanced when you started adding accessories and such...
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 2:32:35 PM EDT
[#16]
Have a 6920 and a 6721 both are quite nice....Its like  a Ginger Maryann scenario.. get one of each...why struggle with hard decisions
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 3:53:22 PM EDT
[#17]
I have a 6721 for when I want heavy, and a 6520 for when I want light.

In the Arfcom tradition, get both!
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 3:54:52 PM EDT
[#18]
thanks for all the input guys

i think i will keep my H-Bar
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 3:59:12 PM EDT
[#19]
Just one AR, a Colt 6721 (16" HBAR). I would rather get a different upper than destroy a nice barrel by cutting it down.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:27:36 PM EDT
[#20]
Since when do people "run" things besides ammo?  Do I need to add another cool guy word to my vocabulary?
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:31:17 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
I have a Bushmaster 16" HBAR.  I like it, but I wish it was a lightweight.  I've thought about having ADCO turn it down and shorten it to 14.7" for me, but I haven't been able to talk myself into spending the money.


Do it.  I had ADCO turn down an HBAR midlength, and a govt. profile 20" barrel to lightweight profile.  Best money I ever spent on my ARs.  It's about better balance, more than the excessive weight.  The midlength cost me about $100 all together, and that includes the upper disassembly charge.  Send just the barrel, and it's even less.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:48:31 PM EDT
[#22]
I had ADCO cut my 16 HBAR down to a 14.5.  I left it as an HBAR and did not have them turn it down.  I know that is kind of a different approach, but believe it or not, it evens out the balance on the rifle very well.  It is carbine length with a LaRue handguard and I only run a VFG on it, so I'm not loading it up with too much stuff, but no complaints with the weight or balance.

Just a little different take...
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 4:49:16 PM EDT
[#23]
My duty rifle has a Bushmaster 16" heavy barrel and my home defense rifle is a RRA 16" heavy mid length.  I have a Specter 1.5" three point tactical sling on both and each has a tactical light.  I started out with a Colt 20" competition heavy barrel so these seem light compared to it.  I used an m 16 A1 for a while and actually like the balance of my 16" heavy barrels better.  I really think its a personal thing but I don't pack another 100 pounds of gear either.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 5:02:34 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
16" H-Bar with Spike's Fake Can.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/Stalker61/CQB.jpg



wow, that's one heavy rifle! I threw that Surefire VFG right back at the armorer...
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 5:07:10 PM EDT
[#25]
I have a 6721

Link Posted: 10/16/2008 6:05:12 PM EDT
[#26]
My tack driver is a 16" middy HBAR.  It shoots extremely well and groups under .5 moa with handloads.  Shooting 12GA. shotgun shells at 100 yds. is almost too easy with it.  Weight with scope is 9.5 lbs.  

Here is a picture of the middy HBAR with my new 5.9 lb. lightweight build:

Link Posted: 10/16/2008 6:09:03 PM EDT
[#27]
I "run" 14.5" HB Bushmaster with the Phantom II FH to make it 16".  It is a little heavy, but I like the way it balances and "swings".  I also have the Surefire light / VFG and it is well worth the weight.

I have never found carrying and shooting it all day to be too much of a chore.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 6:13:26 PM EDT
[#28]
16" hbar = bad

I have one (midlength)...regret it...will cost me $1000 to switch over to a m4 14.5" carbine
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 6:18:05 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
16" hbar = bad

I have one (midlength)...regret it...will cost me $1000 to switch over to a m4 14.5" carbine

How is it going to cost you $1000?  Send yours off to ADCO and for about 1/5 of that they can turn it down to a lighter profile and cut it to 14.5.  Or sell the upper on the EE and buy a different upper, might lose a little bit, but you might be able to come out even.
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 9:31:26 PM EDT
[#30]
I've got a Delton 16 inch HBAR with midlength gas system.  I like it, but it is a little barrel heavy with a YHM lw free float, LaRue FUG and a surefire light mounted.  I like it though.  Have bought another lower though, that I'll build with a lightweight barrel.  
Link Posted: 10/16/2008 10:58:22 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
Since when do people "run" things besides ammo?  Do I need to add another cool guy word to my vocabulary?



Clearly, you're not an "operator."

In all seriousness, I have no idea when the hell "run" replaced "use" in the collective vocabulary.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 12:45:24 AM EDT
[#32]
My BM 16" HBAR fluted @ ADCO is a pretty nice compromise.  Very accurate and reliable.  But I think I'm going to get rid of the upper and get a SPRish type thing.
Link Posted: 10/17/2008 10:26:47 AM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Since when do people "run" things besides ammo?  Do I need to add another cool guy word to my vocabulary?



Clearly, you're not an "operator."

In all seriousness, I have no idea when the hell "run" replaced "use" in the collective vocabulary.


I wonder what GECKO45 is running????  LOL
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